Oh yes and we love the documentary dearly. Yes we do.
It's a very good and brilliantly written part of the storybook.
E.g. the so very important last page talks about a meeting of LaToya, her male companion (who is it?) and some FL personnel and coroner criminalists in a lobby in order to take some hair samples from a decedent body (= someone who has something to bequeath one day) laying on his back in a yellow casket (jewel box) with blue linen.
In a lobby. Under jurisdiction of the family.
I hope it did not hurt when they "plucked the hairs with gloved hands".
I hope the "male companion" did not have to say "ouch".
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"Who's brains have been cut into pieces must for sure have lost his mind."
Idk, I still believe Michael wore wigs (especially in recent years) you can tell by the hairline. I'd also assume that Michael has curly hair like his brothers. He might be wearing extensions in this pic which weren't put in properly which could explain the bald patch...
The MOST CONCLUSIVE evidence that we have about the autopsy being FAKE (although there are dozens and dozens of obvious things) but the BIGGEST thing is that the ENTIRE autopsy report was dictated on 06/26/09 INCLUDING the OPINION on toxicology results. The ENTIRE DICTATION was typed on 06/30/09 INCLUDING the OPINION on the toxicology results. THE ENTIRE AUTOPSY REPORT was typed/transcribed on 06/30/09. The TOXICOLOGY results were NOT EVEN IN until 07/15/09 as dated on the toxicology reports. You cannot dictate and transcribe toxicology reports that are not in yet. <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Secondly, the coroner seal that appears on the autopsy report expired in 2004 and they changed to a new seal that year. The TOXICOLOGY reports have the new seal but the blood was drawn on a patient named "Trauma, Gershwen." The blood tubes must be labeled "Jackson, Michael." George Gershwen is a famous composer who wrote "It Ain't Necessarily So." Ira Gershwen is a famous composer who wrote "The Man That Got Away."
There are dozens of other things that have already been discussed on other links here in the forum. But nothing about the autopsy is authentic. It is a good fake, until you look at the dates of dictation, dates of transcription, legal seals, and pay attention to the "legal" details such as how the blood tubes are labeled. <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I'm very late here, but THANK YOU. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
How did he pass a 5 hour medical exam if he had lung issues. The doctors need to be called in who passed him with flying colors. Michael also was a health nut! I can not even see him smoking at all or even knowing how to smoke.
about Michael wearing a wig....of course he did...i recomand you to watch the movie "GOOD HAIR"-CHRIS ROCK...to understand everything about ..."hair":D
i don't think that he smoke, during the Prime Time interview he repeated several times that he was very sensitive to smoke, he couldnt stand it, though many years have passed i still don't think that he would smoke
He did NOT smoke.. I can't remember where I saw it but he said the picture was only a joke between his friends. They were making fun of him for being so goodie goodie, so he pretended to smoke. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I see that I never did share what debunks the PDF I read, for ME. But I can quickly tell you now what it is that makes it bogus. It may save you some time investigating, needlessly...
And, I don't need to debunk EVERYthing to discredit ALL of it. It only takes one fly(knowing what they have on their feets <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> ) in my drink to throw the entire drink out.
1] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> In the year 2009, I am confident that NO government agency uses a typewriter <!-- s --><!-- s --> to produce autopsy forms.
2] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> Equally convinced that not even a COUNTY government agency would still be using official forms which were last revised in 1995. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
3] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> The amount of pages (over 50) is suspect. Most ARs are no more than 6 pages---including Tox report and brain pathology report. The individual is dead--they list a couple of main contributing illnesses or injuries, and it really doesn't matter that they had evidences of 40 other illnesses or diseases.<!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
4] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> On that subject, just ONE lung disease would have prevented MJ from raising three young children, performing grueling rehearsals for a concert tour, or making the movie, TII, which we all investigated---unless someone doesn't think the star of TII was MJ. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> A hoaxed death requires a hoaxed report to give people something to do. MOST <!-- s --><!-- s --> of the given hoax clues are <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> obvious OVERKILL. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
FIFTY pages of an AR is classic <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> MJ OVERKILL. As MJ would say, "Is THAT scary for ya, Baby" <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
5] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> There is information in the autopsy report which is NOT autopsy (findings from a dead body)report, and, at times, <!-- s --><!-- s --> reads more like all of these, mixed in: a legal brief, a police report, a coroner's report, and specialist consults which are done on living hospital guests, UPSTAIRS---not in the morgue. Nothing which does not pertain to the dissected body ever appears in, or under the heading, "AR". NOTHING about what was found at the scene, or the condition of the scene would ever be in the AUTOPSY report <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
6] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> ALL catheters, tubes, pic lines, appliances, eyeglasses, hearing aids, dressings, etc., etc., are always removed prior to the trip to the morgue or mortuary. According to the story, MJ's body was "worked on" at the hospital, and probably intubated at one point, while they tried all chemical things to reverse the guy's problems. (Even after a routine surgery which goes amok, <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> someone is assigned the task of removing all possible evidence of hospital <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> liability; drainage hoses, breathing tubes, introvenous lines and even fresh--clean-- catheters.) So, the mere mention of finding these things in a body which had been treated at the hospital makes this report a lie. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
7] I'll combine these two things, for the sake of time: there was NO mention at all of any plastic surgeries or any injuries to his nose---which he reportedly BROKE prior to his very first nose job, and NO mention of --I can't remember---either a broken leg or broken foot, he experienced in the late 90s, I believe (not certain of the year, just certain of the broken bones).
There is more, but...this is QUITE enough, to establish that something is very wrong about this report, and that it is not even from this decade, let alone, in particular, OUR dear 50 year old Michael Jackson, K.O.P..
I have just noticed that there is sth strange as far as odontology is concerned. In my country at least in case of death odontology is very often the identification source and is always quite detailed in description.
This is the section from MJ AR, I was not able to find anything more on this.
And there is this photo of young MJ, from around 1971, so ca.12 yrs old, in theory all of his teeth should have been permanent at this age. It seems one (canine) is missing. I looks like right one, which is number #6.
Any of the tooth loss as well as implants should be listed in AR. There is sth #18 and #19 but anything on #6. They mentioned all-ceramic maxillary teeth but still no word on missing tooth, even after the restoration like crown or implant, lack of teeth is lack of teeth and still should be mentioned.
MJ looks younger than 12 in that pic. It looks like his tooth hasn't yet come through from his missing baby tooth.
that's the description under the photo on getty images page, there are other photos from this session available as well
If what Souza have in his Theory is true (about the birth date) then MJ in that pictures has 10 years, not even 11... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> could be he was changing his tooth at 10...
and btw, i was searching for Brittany Murphy Autopsy Report to make a comparation but i can´t found it but i found that TMZ laked that AR and found this article where say that MJ AR was fabricated... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
<!-- m -->http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... eaked.html<!-- m -->
ok, i've been reading through both of these autopsy reports (Brittany Murphy's and MJ's) and apart from the look of them something stood out to me.
In Mike's "autopsy" it says there is a 2cm scar on the abdomen in the lower right quadrant. Having recently had my appendix removed, I was thinking this must be the obvious cause but in the rest of the report it has the appendix present.
So, what is this scar from? I was under the impression that even if the appendix wasn't inflamed, once they've opened you up the remove it regardless??
This stuck in my mind since my first read-through months ago, but going over it again now it's just glaringly obvious.
The stamps are different, the seal is the autopsy of Brittany Murphy is different to seal the autopsy report for Michael. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
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Oh yes and we love the documentary dearly. Yes we do.
It's a very good and brilliantly written part of the storybook.
E.g. the so very important last page talks about a meeting of LaToya, her male companion (who is it?) and some FL personnel and coroner criminalists in a lobby in order to take some hair samples from a decedent body (= someone who has something to bequeath one day) laying on his back in a yellow casket (jewel box) with blue linen.
In a lobby. Under jurisdiction of the family.
I hope it did not hurt when they "plucked the hairs with gloved hands".
I hope the "male companion" did not have to say "ouch".
<!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
"Who's brains have been cut into pieces must for sure have lost his mind."
I'm very late here, but THANK YOU. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
There are three different names on the autopsy pages,
1. Michael Joseph Jackson
2. Michael J Jackson
3. Michael Jackson
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And, I don't need to debunk EVERYthing to discredit ALL of it. It only takes one fly(knowing what they have on their feets <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> ) in my drink to throw the entire drink out.
1] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> In the year 2009, I am confident that NO government agency uses a typewriter <!-- s
2] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> Equally convinced that not even a COUNTY government agency would still be using official forms which were last revised in 1995. <!-- s
3] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> The amount of pages (over 50) is suspect. Most ARs are no more than 6 pages---including Tox report and brain pathology report. The individual is dead--they list a couple of main contributing illnesses or injuries, and it really doesn't matter that they had evidences of 40 other illnesses or diseases.<!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
4] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> On that subject, just ONE lung disease would have prevented MJ from raising three young children, performing grueling rehearsals for a concert tour, or making the movie, TII, which we all investigated---unless someone doesn't think the star of TII was MJ. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> A hoaxed death requires a hoaxed report to give people something to do. MOST <!-- s
FIFTY pages of an AR is classic <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s
5] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> There is information in the autopsy report which is NOT autopsy (findings from a dead body)report, and, at times, <!-- s
6] <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> ALL catheters, tubes, pic lines, appliances, eyeglasses, hearing aids, dressings, etc., etc., are always removed prior to the trip to the morgue or mortuary. According to the story, MJ's body was "worked on" at the hospital, and probably intubated at one point, while they tried all chemical things to reverse the guy's problems. (Even after a routine surgery which goes amok, <!-- s:arrow: -->:arrow:<!-- s:arrow: --> someone is assigned the task of removing all possible evidence of hospital <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> liability; drainage hoses, breathing tubes, introvenous lines and even fresh--clean-- catheters.) So, the mere mention of finding these things in a body which had been treated at the hospital makes this report a lie. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
7] I'll combine these two things, for the sake of time: there was NO mention at all of any plastic surgeries or any injuries to his nose---which he reportedly BROKE prior to his very first nose job, and NO mention of --I can't remember---either a broken leg or broken foot, he experienced in the late 90s, I believe (not certain of the year, just certain of the broken bones).
There is more, but...this is QUITE enough, to establish that something is very wrong about this report, and that it is not even from this decade, let alone, in particular, OUR dear 50 year old Michael Jackson, K.O.P..
Thank you! You are too kind. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
This is the section from MJ AR, I was not able to find anything more on this.
And there is this photo of young MJ, from around 1971, so ca.12 yrs old, in theory all of his teeth should have been permanent at this age. It seems one (canine) is missing. I looks like right one, which is number #6.
Any of the tooth loss as well as implants should be listed in AR. There is sth #18 and #19 but anything on #6. They mentioned all-ceramic maxillary teeth but still no word on missing tooth, even after the restoration like crown or implant, lack of teeth is lack of teeth and still should be mentioned.
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that's the description under the photo on getty images page, there are other photos from this session available as well
If what Souza have in his Theory is true (about the birth date) then MJ in that pictures has 10 years, not even 11... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> could be he was changing his tooth at 10...
and btw, i was searching for Brittany Murphy Autopsy Report to make a comparation but i can´t found it but i found that TMZ laked that AR and found this article where say that MJ AR was fabricated... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
<!-- m -->http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... eaked.html<!-- m -->
Here you go -
<!-- m -->http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Cel ... report.pdf<!-- m -->
In Mike's "autopsy" it says there is a 2cm scar on the abdomen in the lower right quadrant. Having recently had my appendix removed, I was thinking this must be the obvious cause but in the rest of the report it has the appendix present.
So, what is this scar from? I was under the impression that even if the appendix wasn't inflamed, once they've opened you up the remove it regardless??
This stuck in my mind since my first read-through months ago, but going over it again now it's just glaringly obvious.