Forget about it. Since the record deal announcement, my mind has gotten stuck a few times too. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
So sorry for the stupid question but my mind has stucked <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
So that means ??? Much ado about nothing ?????? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
And what is this: The new deal extends that right until 2017, and adds the rights to material recorded since then. Since when? 2009, 2015, 2017? He's 'dead' .... record what and how?
Very bad grammar or intentional. I'm going with intentional <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I had completely forgotten that music was among the things taken from the house. The new record deal makes a person think about who she was trying to keep from getting their clutches on the songs. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Well.. it seems they have recovered the music that LaToyah supposedly swiped.. remember the hard drive with 100 songs that went missing????
I am mixed emotions about this. Of course i want to hear the new material.. but when i do my heart will break all over again if MJ isnt here also.
OMG! <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> Why Sony? I mean Michael hated Sony for what they are doing and we know what Sony is up to. But why sign a deal with them again? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
If Michael Jackson really is alive would he agree to such a deal with Sony or or was the falling out all fake?
I have mixed feelings about hearing this deal but from what I've seen in the news it seems like most of it will be back catalogue stuff - including the This Is It soundtrack - and one album of unreleased stuff.
OK, thought about it some more. The deal is not for games, merchandise etc. and one article states:
In striking the deal, Sony is betting that the appetite for Mr. Jackson's music will prove more than just a spike generated by his unexpected death and the ensuing round-the-clock coverage. A record contract struck in the early 1980s gave Mr. Jackson ownership of his recordings. Sony had the right to distribute those recordings through 2015. The new deal extends that right until 2017, and adds the rights to material recorded since then.
So if I am correct, Sony pays 250 million bucks for songs they already could release the upcoming 5 years.... Meaning they will pay 250 million to have those rights for only 2 more years?
So they will pay 125 million for 2016 and 125 million for 2017. And they think they will make profit on that by then? I don't think so and I also don't think Sony is that stupid.
Something is off. This sounds like a bogus deal to me, if it is really just for the music.
Thoughts anyone?
No..the 250 million is only about the new unreleased material, the 7 year/10 projects contract. They had the right to distribute the already released material untill 2015.
So they have 2 new deals:
1. extension of right to distribute old songs from 2015 untill 2017
2. right to release new material for 10 projects during 7 years
UN-BE-LIE-VA-BLE. I can't believe this, Michael HATED Sony. He was so glad to have left them. Now he is "dead" and they get this multimillion dollar deal...could this have been the reason for a possible murderplot?
UN-BE-LIE-VA-BLE. I can't believe this, Michael HATED Sony. He was so glad to have left them. Now he is "dead" and they get this multimillion dollar deal...could this have been the reason for a possible murderplot?
Or he was forced to do the hoax because of the debts....Or it's hes greedy family ( not the kids ) cause he really IS dead, and now they can make more money than ever....or it's all planned by Michael, so he can come back, and never has to deal with making new records, he can sort of retire.
[Michael Jackson: Still Wanted, Dead or Alive
By Christopher John Farley
Why are people surprised when musicians prove to be worth more dead than alive?
According to an article in the Wall Street Journal by Ethan Smith, “Months after his death, Michael Jackson set a music-industry record, thanks to a deal between his estate and Sony Corp. valued at as much as $250 million, according to people familiar with the terms.”
The pact, which involves the release of 10 albums over seven years, guarantees the estate at least $200 million. Those releases will feature a mix of previously unreleased songs and new packages of familiar tracks.
[my remark: original news publication by Reuters press agency on March 15, 2010 9:59 p.m. says "10 albums" not "projects"]
Just last week, Jimi Hendrix released a “new” album, “Valleys of Neptune,” containing previously unreleased versions of old songs, and numbers from the vault that hadn’t before gotten an official release.
Also last week, a new Broadway show was announced titled “Unchain My Heart: The Ray Charles Musical,” that will be a showcase for the music of Charles, and last month the late Johnny Cash released another in his series of albums for American Recordings.
Kurt Cobain appears in the video game “Guitar Hero 5,” and all four of the Beatles appear in “Beatles: Rock Band” although two of them are dead.
At the beginning of the rock and roll era, many saw such pop music as disposable. But now, decades later, we’re seeing that the best artists–Bob Marley, the Beatles, Michael Jackson and the like–have made music that is unbounded by decades and trends and has a rich life beyond the lives of the artists that created the work in the first place.
Great pop music may turn out to be more like fine art, increasing in value over time. And, increasingly, there seem to be new uses for great songs–in videogames, samples, remixes, ringtones, jukebox musicals, apps, and other ways that songwriters today have yet to imagine.
Michael Jackson, in life, demonstrated his belief in the value in songs when he purchased the company that held the rights to the Beatles’ music publishing. Now Jackson, in death, is teaching the recording industry a similar lesson about the value of music. ]
Sorry guys but I think this is really really bad...fishy. It's almost like Michael needed to be out of the way so they could get this deal of his material
Not just that, but the artist isn't even involved with the release of the material. How can they release unfinished material that he may not have agreed with, being the perfectionist that he is? How can you release the artwork of an artist that was not even completed by the artist himself?
Money.
Money...
Lie for it
Spy for it
Kill for it
Die for it
So you call it trust
But I say it's just
In the devil's game
Of greed and lust
They don't care
They'd do me for the money
They don't care
They use me for the money
So you go to church
Read the Holy word
In the scheme of life
It's all absurd
They don't care
They'd kill for the money
Do or dare
The thrill for the money
You're saluting the flag
Your country trusts you
Now you're wearing a badge
You're called the "Just Few"
And you're fighting the wars
A soldier must do
I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but...
If you show me the cash
Then I will take it
If you tell me to cry
Then I will fake it
If you give me a hand
Then I will shake it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Insurance?
Where do your loyalties lie?
Is that your alibi?
I don't think so
You don't care
You'd do her for the money
Say it's fair
You sue her for the money
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
You don't care
You kill for the money
Do or dareThe thrill for the money
Are you infected with the same disease
Of lust, gluttoney and greed?
Then watch the ones
With the biggest smiles
The idle jabbers...Cuz they're the backstabbers
If you know it's a lie
Then you will swear it
If you give it with guilt
Then you will bear it
If it's taking a chance
Then you will dare it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
You say you wouldn't do it
For all the money in the world
I don't think soIf you show me the man
Then I will sell him
If you ask me to lie
Then I will tell him
If you're dealing with God
Then you will hell him
You'll do anything for money
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Money.
Money...
Lie for it
Spy for it
Kill for it
Die for it
So you call it trust
But I say it's just
In the devil's game
Of greed and lust
They don't care
They'd do me for the money
They don't care
They use me for the money
So you go to church
Read the Holy word
In the scheme of life
It's all absurd
They don't care
They'd kill for the money
Do or dare
The thrill for the money
You're saluting the flag
Your country trusts you
Now you're wearing a badge
You're called the "Just Few"
And you're fighting the wars
A soldier must do
I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but...
If you show me the cash
Then I will take it
If you tell me to cry
Then I will fake it
If you give me a hand
Then I will shake it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Insurance?
Where do your loyalties lie?
Is that your alibi?
I don't think so
You don't care
You'd do her for the money
Say it's fair
You sue her for the money
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
You don't care
You kill for the money
Do or dareThe thrill for the money
Are you infected with the same disease
Of lust, gluttoney and greed?
Then watch the ones
With the biggest smiles
The idle jabbers...Cuz they're the backstabbers
If you know it's a lie
Then you will swear it
If you give it with guilt
Then you will bear it
If it's taking a chance
Then you will dare it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
You say you wouldn't do it
For all the money in the world
I don't think soIf you show me the man
Then I will sell him
If you ask me to lie
Then I will tell him
If you're dealing with God
Then you will hell him
You'll do anything for money
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
If Michael planned this all along, he just sold his soul to the devil.... maybe for peace <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
Money.
Money...
Lie for it
Spy for it
Kill for it
Die for it
So you call it trust
But I say it's just
In the devil's game
Of greed and lust
They don't care
They'd do me for the money
They don't care
They use me for the money
So you go to church
Read the Holy word
In the scheme of life
It's all absurd
They don't care
They'd kill for the money
Do or dare
The thrill for the money
You're saluting the flag
Your country trusts you
Now you're wearing a badge
You're called the "Just Few"
And you're fighting the wars
A soldier must do
I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but...
If you show me the cash
Then I will take it
If you tell me to cry
Then I will fake it
If you give me a hand
Then I will shake it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Insurance?
Where do your loyalties lie?
Is that your alibi?
I don't think so
You don't care
You'd do her for the money
Say it's fair
You sue her for the money
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
You don't care
You kill for the money
Do or dareThe thrill for the money
Are you infected with the same disease
Of lust, gluttoney and greed?
Then watch the ones
With the biggest smiles
The idle jabbers...Cuz they're the backstabbers
If you know it's a lie
Then you will swear it
If you give it with guilt
Then you will bear it
If it's taking a chance
Then you will dare it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
You say you wouldn't do it
For all the money in the world
I don't think soIf you show me the man
Then I will sell him
If you ask me to lie
Then I will tell him
If you're dealing with God
Then you will hell him
You'll do anything for money
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
AMEN! They don't care, they do it for the money <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
Because! And now listen.... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
the record selling sinked(?) about 52%!!!!!!! (5+2=7)
And so they hope to sell until his annual day of death about 250 mil Dollar with the music, this is it.....
(2+5=7)
Just coincidence??? I don't think so <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME!!
Because! And now listen.... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
the record selling sinked(?) about 52%!!!!!!! (5+2=7)
And so they hope to sell until his annual day of death about 250 mil Dollar with the music, this is it.....
(2+5=7)
Just coincidence??? I don't think so <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
<!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> This gets weider by the hour !!!
Comments
Very bad grammar or intentional. I'm going with intentional <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
I have mixed feelings about hearing this deal but from what I've seen in the news it seems like most of it will be back catalogue stuff - including the This Is It soundtrack - and one album of unreleased stuff.
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Really don't know what to make of it I'm confused. Guess we will have to wait until later today to hear what they have come up with.
So they have 2 new deals:
1. extension of right to distribute old songs from 2015 untill 2017
2. right to release new material for 10 projects during 7 years
UN-BE-LIE-VA-BLE. I can't believe this, Michael HATED Sony. He was so glad to have left them. Now he is "dead" and they get this multimillion dollar deal...could this have been the reason for a possible murderplot?
Or he was forced to do the hoax because of the debts....Or it's hes greedy family ( not the kids ) cause he really IS dead, and now they can make more money than ever....or it's all planned by Michael, so he can come back, and never has to deal with making new records, he can sort of retire.
[Michael Jackson: Still Wanted, Dead or Alive
By Christopher John Farley
Why are people surprised when musicians prove to be worth more dead than alive?
According to an article in the Wall Street Journal by Ethan Smith, “Months after his death, Michael Jackson set a music-industry record, thanks to a deal between his estate and Sony Corp. valued at as much as $250 million, according to people familiar with the terms.”
The pact, which involves the release of 10 albums over seven years, guarantees the estate at least $200 million. Those releases will feature a mix of previously unreleased songs and new packages of familiar tracks.
[my remark: original news publication by Reuters press agency on March 15, 2010 9:59 p.m. says "10 albums" not "projects"]
Just last week, Jimi Hendrix released a “new” album, “Valleys of Neptune,” containing previously unreleased versions of old songs, and numbers from the vault that hadn’t before gotten an official release.
Also last week, a new Broadway show was announced titled “Unchain My Heart: The Ray Charles Musical,” that will be a showcase for the music of Charles, and last month the late Johnny Cash released another in his series of albums for American Recordings.
Kurt Cobain appears in the video game “Guitar Hero 5,” and all four of the Beatles appear in “Beatles: Rock Band” although two of them are dead.
At the beginning of the rock and roll era, many saw such pop music as disposable. But now, decades later, we’re seeing that the best artists–Bob Marley, the Beatles, Michael Jackson and the like–have made music that is unbounded by decades and trends and has a rich life beyond the lives of the artists that created the work in the first place.
Great pop music may turn out to be more like fine art, increasing in value over time. And, increasingly, there seem to be new uses for great songs–in videogames, samples, remixes, ringtones, jukebox musicals, apps, and other ways that songwriters today have yet to imagine.
Michael Jackson, in life, demonstrated his belief in the value in songs when he purchased the company that held the rights to the Beatles’ music publishing. Now Jackson, in death, is teaching the recording industry a similar lesson about the value of music. ]
Not just that, but the artist isn't even involved with the release of the material. How can they release unfinished material that he may not have agreed with, being the perfectionist that he is? How can you release the artwork of an artist that was not even completed by the artist himself?
I am not giving Sony the dimes.
<!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> 3 different times?
Posted Mar 15th 2010 10:49PM by TMZ Staff
to
Posted Mar 16th(1+6=7) 2010 12:10AM (2+1+1+2+1=7) by TMZ Staff
The new one:
Posted Mar 16th 2010 3:10AM by TMZ Staff
but matches again 1+6 = 7
2+1+3+1=7
me neither
Maybe because they saw that we "bought" it and try to give us a "lift up" ?
Yes it's serious but we still don't know all the parameters of the story .
Just saying...
but what I want to say....
I believe that they know something.... and they are well informed about Michael JAckson's hoax...
maybe toooo well....
They try to tell us, that he is alive! The bogus of the 911, all hoax,....etc.. and so on
isnt it just cause they updated the news?????
I think most website do that with their news....
Money...
Lie for it
Spy for it
Kill for it
Die for it
So you call it trust
But I say it's just
In the devil's game
Of greed and lust
They don't care
They'd do me for the money
They don't care
They use me for the money
So you go to church
Read the Holy word
In the scheme of life
It's all absurd
They don't care
They'd kill for the money
Do or dare
The thrill for the money
You're saluting the flag
Your country trusts you
Now you're wearing a badge
You're called the "Just Few"
And you're fighting the wars
A soldier must do
I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but...
If you show me the cash
Then I will take it
If you tell me to cry
Then I will fake it
If you give me a hand
Then I will shake it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Insurance?
Where do your loyalties lie?
Is that your alibi?
I don't think so
You don't care
You'd do her for the money
Say it's fair
You sue her for the money
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
You don't care
You kill for the money
Do or dareThe thrill for the money
Are you infected with the same disease
Of lust, gluttoney and greed?
Then watch the ones
With the biggest smiles
The idle jabbers...Cuz they're the backstabbers
If you know it's a lie
Then you will swear it
If you give it with guilt
Then you will bear it
If it's taking a chance
Then you will dare it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
You say you wouldn't do it
For all the money in the world
I don't think soIf you show me the man
Then I will sell him
If you ask me to lie
Then I will tell him
If you're dealing with God
Then you will hell him
You'll do anything for money
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
AMEN! They don't care, they do it for the money <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
ANother update..... also very interesting
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UPDATE No2 Part 2
Ok, why the new contract with Sony now??
Because! And now listen.... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
the record selling sinked(?) about 52%!!!!!!! (5+2=7)
And so they hope to sell until his annual day of death about 250 mil Dollar with the music, this is it.....
(2+5=7)
Just coincidence??? I don't think so <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME!!
PIECE BY PIECE
Yes, I remember, here's link
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/92624-Rumor-Michael-Jackson-Stars-In-Upcoming-Mystery-Game
MICHAEL JACKSON'S BUSINESS-ISSUES-UPTADES
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