Michael Jackson was not gay, says father
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 (EST)
Joe Jackson has hit out at Michael Jackson's doctor, Arnie Klein, for claiming the singer was gay.
May 03, 2010, (Sawf News) - Joe Jackson has hit out at Michael Jackson's doctor, Arnie Klein, for claiming the singer was gay.
"It's not true. Michael was not gay," Joe told TMZ.
Joe feels Klein has breached ethics in making the claim.
"He has no respect for Michael ... to say things about him when he's gone is shameful.
"He's a doctor and knows better than to break his vows against a patient."
On Thursday, April 29, in an interview aired on Extra, Klein's office manager, Jason Pfeiffer, claimed that he had a "passionate and sexual" relationship with Michael Jackson in 2008.
The next day, Klien called into TMZ live in support of Pfeiffer's claim. He reiterated that Michael was gay and Pfeiffer was 'the love of his life.'
Both Klien and Pfeiffer have claimed Michael made no attempt to hide his sexuality.
To cut a long story short. This person yesterday posted this YT link;
[youtube:2cula9lg]
Its a classical piece by Debussy, main instrument; A flute.
Out of curiosity i went to wikipedia to see if i could put some meaning to it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A9lude_%C3%A0_l%27apr%C3%A8s-midi_d%27un_faune
And there it was! International superstar Michael Jackson has named the piece his "favorite song".
I know its far fetched, but now i have read this thread, i have a feeling it was meant as a hint to the Pfeiffer story.
Who's blowing the whistle and on what?.... <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
The sentence
"International superstar Michael Jackson has named the piece his "favorite song"."
was added to wikipedia by a cable net connected desktop with an IP in Toronto, Canada on March 21, 2010. The same editor named the piece later a "Symphonic poem/Tone poem".
Allright Grace! thx!
I need to learn how to do that too. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
It could give insight in many things.
but what can we do with this particular information?
Any suggestons?
Save it for a rainy day?! LOL <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
It just says that looking into details and behind the curtains will show more facts.
The sentence was added just recently.
We do not know why though.
Sometimes I have the impression that we are doing some hide and seek in an edutainment show and that some things are planted for us on purpose to be found at a certain moment.
(Just as the video popped up on twitter - some folks may know we are following twitter and that the groups' appearances are relatively steady in the web = predictable.)
So this could be pure coincidence why you found the video and the wiki entry.
It could mean also the contrary: both were planted.
It just says that looking into details and behind the curtains will show more facts.
The sentence was added just recently.
We do not know why though.
Sometimes I have the impression that we are doing some hide and seek in an edutainment show and that some things are planted for us on purpose to be found at a certain moment.
(Just as the video popped up on twitter - some folks may know we are following twitter and that the groups' appearances are relatively steady in the web = predictable.)
So this could be pure coincidence why you found the video and the wiki entry.
It could mean also the contrary: both were planted.
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i firmly believe that a lot of bits and pieces are planted, very probably a lot more than we will find.
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edit: I heard mike say in an interview that he loves classical music and he mentioned a few, among them debussy. if you like classical music, there is no way around debussy. just like there is no way around mike regarding modern music... <!-- s --><!-- s -->
i dont think for a minute mickael was gay for one moment but i can truley say if he was i wouldnt love him any less i can understand all people loved him he is loved more than anyone that ever lived <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
It's strange that this Jason says "Michael was saying goodbye to everyone during the last 2 weeks"...isn't Michael supposed to die cause of an accident ?
For Klein's shirt...I never saw Michael wearing green...made me think of this old story : never wear green clothes on stage, because it's the color Molière was wearing the day he died on stage. It's supposed to be "bad luck"
~Souza~
guys we dont want to be like the fool who killed his friend trying to save that friends life !!
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Jermaine Jackson -- Curse You, Dr. Klein!
Originally posted May 3rd 2010 1:10 PM PDT by TMZ Staff
Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine had a few words for Dr. Arnie Klein this morning regarding his accusations that MJ was gay -- most of them of the four-letter variety
*
so i guss u shold till jermaine to look into the gay word in wikipidea !! <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
ether he is not in the hoax or Dr. Arnie Klein is not !!
pick ur choice ... what its goona be !!
if the word gay have a different meaning than a homosexual then what is "we were lovers in his last 2 months mean?"
does it have deeper meaning in the wikipedia that we should go looking for ? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
pleas stop spreading that for god seak !
MJ said he is not gay than thats it ... we believe him .
end of the story .
About Jason Pfeiffer, and the meaning in German, "whistler"<br />Not sure if it means anything, just found this a "coincedence".<br />I follow someone on twitter that somehow has something to do with MJ, although i havent found out, who he/she is, or what the connection is. The person is not very talkative, answers with simple yes' or no's, and posts links to stuff. Not obviously hoax related or anything. <br />To cut a long story short. This person yesterday posted this YT link; <br />[youtube:3w2qn3yq] <br />Its a classical piece by Debussy, main instrument; A flute.<br />Out of curiosity i went to wikipedia to see if i could put some meaning to it.<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A9lude_%C3%A0_l%27apr%C3%A8s-midi_d%27un_faune<br />And there it was! <br />International superstar Michael Jackson has named the piece his "favorite song".<br />I know its far fetched, but now i have read this thread, i have a feeling it was meant as a hint to the Pfeiffer story. <br />Who's blowing the whistle and on what?.... <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
<br /><br />Thank you for posting the video. It was beautiful to listen to it on a gray gloomy morning while having a cup of coffee.<br />Usually I´m not overly gay around this time- but once I´m warmed up.... <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun > Pan/Puck > The Green Man > Peter Pan. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
"Barrie never described Peter's appearance in detail, even in the novel Peter and Wendy, leaving much of it to the imagination of the reader and the interpretation of anyone adapting the character. Barrie mentions in "Peter and Wendy" that Peter Pan still had all of his baby teeth. He describes him as a beautiful boy with a beautiful smile, "clad in skeleton leaves and the juices that flow from trees". In the play, Peter's outfit is made of autumn leaves and cobwebs. His name and playing the flute vaguely suggest the mythological character Pan."
* ok
we all know what gay means as souza explained !
I will agree with u on that one for now !
but Dr. Arnold Klein did say :
"Jason Pfeiffer was"the love of [Jackson's] life "!!
He did, however, add that Jackson’s alleged two-month fling with Pfeiffer was "the only homosexual relationship he believes the singer has had".
now .... if he just sayed gay i would hav agree with u on what u post here but what about those two sentence ??
*the love of [Jackson's] life ! *homosexual relationship !
as u see he didt leave us with any other choice about the meaning of the word gay !!
get the point ?? so pleas stop promoting lies by philosophing it !! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
Dies ist erinnert mich an ein mittelalterliches Deutsch Märchen, genannt "Der Rattenfänger von Hameln", frei in "der Mann, der die Ratten aus einer Stadt namens gelockt übersetzt Hameln '. Es heißt nicht umsonst ein Märchen, sondern eine "Legende", so dass es darauf hindeutet, dass es könnte non-fiction werden. die Brüder Grimm, die Geschichte in einem berühmten Märchen gemacht. dies auch im Zusammenhang mit der 'Whistler' parallel, dass Souza kam mit der Deutsch ergebenden Namen "Pfeiffer".
Die Geschichte ist wie hier (nur die Umrisse):
Die Stadt hat eine riesige Ratte Problem sind die Nager überall. die Stadt die Menschen haben alles versucht, aber nichts funktioniert. Jetzt kommt ein junger Mann mit einer Pfeife / Rohr / Flöte, der sagte zu können jede Ratte weg, indem er eine gewisse "Homosexuell" Melodie zu locken ist. er tut es, ist die Stadt frei von Ratten und er ist ihr Held aller Zeiten. Die Geschichte hat einen Twist später cuz die Menschen nicht wollen, der Mann für seine Dienste bezahlen und er später zurückkehrt und lockt alle den Kindern der Stadt entfernt mit der gleichen pfeifen, als Rache für die Erwachsenen, die ihn verraten. aber der Kern ist, daß er die ganze Stadt ihre Nagetier Problem befreit durch seine Pfeife blies, die meist dargestellt wird über diese Geschichte.
Vielleicht gibt es eine Parallele zu, dass "Reinigung Haus 'newsbit von den anderen Tag. Jetzt ist die Zeit, um loszuwerden, die "Ratten", sei es schlechte Menschen oder schlechte Presse. so vielleicht die "pfeiffer'-Anschluss ist nur an einem Punkt" Whistler ", dh der somone nehmen, die die Pest ins Dorf und nicht an dieser alten newsbit, dass es eine angebliche Beziehung Homosexuell wird. Warum sonst kommen wieder damit?
bis zum heutigen Tag gibt es eine Statue in der Stadt Hameln, dass angezeigte Märchen. die allgemeine Darstellung dieser Figur erinnert an Peter Pan und die Statue würde passen perfekt in Neverland haben ... Ich bin fast sicher, dass Mike würde diese Geschichte kennen, da er so viel wurde in Pfund und er ging auch in Deutschland durchaus eine Spitze . Die Geschichte ist in jedem Brüder-Grimm-Sammlung (nicht wissen, die Englisch Titel, tho).
Hier ist ein Bild der Statue in Hameln:
Ich glaube, ich bin Homosexuell, too! [/ B]
: Mrgreen: [/ quote]
@ Tabloidburn, danke, Melzy777's pic erinnerte mich auch der Grimm's Märchen Rattenfänger ... was wiederum erinnerte mich immer eines der Gemälde Michael ...
In diesem Bild sehe ich Michael als der Rattenfänger führt die Kinder weg von der Sicherheit 'Ratten' der Boulevardpresse und / oder einer schlechten Kindheit zu erleben.
In diesem Gemälde, genoss Michael und die Kinder sind glücklich und Homosexuell [/ b] einen unbeschwerten sonnigen Tag!
: Lol: [/ quote]
I am from germany, only e few minutes away from Hameln. The Story " Der Rattenfänger von Hameln" was always there in the streets...a very old city.
Michael was in Hameln at the 13.August 1992 ? Usualy the city was not big enough, but he loved this old "Märchen", the city is called " Märchenstadt ", and so he specialy wanted to give a concert here.
So that's a poof that he was comfort with the " Rattenfänger from Hameln" who leadet all the ratts with his sweet play on the Whistler out of the city.....the ratts die and the people could live without fear.
Sorry...it's a bad bad explanation....
*
pleas stop promoting lies by philosophing it !!
gay mean homosexual !!
i dont have anything against gays but i have a big proplem against liyers . I know u meant well but it just not helping in any way ! U are going the worn way . for god seak clos this topic . it's not right for MJ .
Jason Pfeiffer, only the whistler in disguese, take all the bad ppl out...not the rats with the whistleplay, but with the rumors of ther love.
Alle the ppl who has nothing lerned about the tabloids and the gossip...all the ones who judged without knowing anything....alll the bad bad ppl come out.
At the end of the Märchen from Whistler in Hameln the ratts are dead......
I hope at this end all the bad are quiet !
My grandma told me when i am a little girl....if you can't say anything good about someone. say nothing !
I try again...
Hameln has to much ratts...the whistler comes and play on the whistle, all ratts come out and followed him out of the city in the river "Weser" and the ratts are dead.
Hameln was free of ratts, but the whistler wasn't payed for this...
So he come back.....AT THE: 26.Juni !!!
now heplay the whistle for the children...all children followed him and his play and never came back....
I try again...Michael know about this story.
Hameln has to much ratts...the whistler comes and play on the whistle, all ratts come out and followed him out of the city in the river "Weser" and the ratts are dead.
Hameln was free of ratts, but the whistler wasn't payed for this...
So he come back.....AT THE: 26.Juni !!!
now heplay the whistle for the children...all children followed him and his play and never came back....
Dies ist erinnert mich an ein mittelalterliches Deutsch Märchen, genannt "Der Rattenfänger von Hameln", frei in "der Mann, der die Ratten aus einer Stadt namens gelockt übersetzt Hameln '. Es heißt nicht umsonst ein Märchen, sondern eine "Legende", so dass es darauf hindeutet, dass es könnte non-fiction werden. die Brüder Grimm, die Geschichte in einem berühmten Märchen gemacht. dies auch im Zusammenhang mit der 'Whistler' parallel, dass Souza kam mit der Deutsch ergebenden Namen "Pfeiffer".
Die Geschichte ist wie hier (nur die Umrisse):
Die Stadt hat eine riesige Ratte Problem sind die Nager überall. die Stadt die Menschen haben alles versucht, aber nichts funktioniert. Jetzt kommt ein junger Mann mit einer Pfeife / Rohr / Flöte, der sagte zu können jede Ratte weg, indem er eine gewisse "Homosexuell" Melodie zu locken ist. er tut es, ist die Stadt frei von Ratten und er ist ihr Held aller Zeiten. Die Geschichte hat einen Twist später cuz die Menschen nicht wollen, der Mann für seine Dienste bezahlen und er später zurückkehrt und lockt alle den Kindern der Stadt entfernt mit der gleichen pfeifen, als Rache für die Erwachsenen, die ihn verraten. aber der Kern ist, daß er die ganze Stadt ihre Nagetier Problem befreit durch seine Pfeife blies, die meist dargestellt wird über diese Geschichte.
Vielleicht gibt es eine Parallele zu, dass "Reinigung Haus 'newsbit von den anderen Tag. Jetzt ist die Zeit, um loszuwerden, die "Ratten", sei es schlechte Menschen oder schlechte Presse. so vielleicht die "pfeiffer'-Anschluss ist nur an einem Punkt" Whistler ", dh der somone nehmen, die die Pest ins Dorf und nicht an dieser alten newsbit, dass es eine angebliche Beziehung Homosexuell wird. Warum sonst kommen wieder damit?
bis zum heutigen Tag gibt es eine Statue in der Stadt Hameln, dass angezeigte Märchen. die allgemeine Darstellung dieser Figur erinnert an Peter Pan und die Statue würde passen perfekt in Neverland haben ... Ich bin fast sicher, dass Mike würde diese Geschichte kennen, da er so viel wurde in Pfund und er ging auch in Deutschland durchaus eine Spitze . Die Geschichte ist in jedem Brüder-Grimm-Sammlung (nicht wissen, die Englisch Titel, tho).
Hier ist ein Bild der Statue in Hameln:
Ich glaube, ich bin Homosexuell, too! [/ B]
: Mrgreen: [/ quote]
@ Tabloidburn, danke, Melzy777's pic erinnerte mich auch der Grimm's Märchen Rattenfänger ... was wiederum erinnerte mich immer eines der Gemälde Michael ...
In diesem Bild sehe ich Michael als der Rattenfänger führt die Kinder weg von der Sicherheit 'Ratten' der Boulevardpresse und / oder einer schlechten Kindheit zu erleben.
In diesem Gemälde, genoss Michael und die Kinder sind glücklich und Homosexuell [/ b] einen unbeschwerten sonnigen Tag!
: Lol: [/ quote]
I am from germany, only e few minutes away from Hameln. The Story " Der Rattenfänger von Hameln" was always there in the streets...a very old city.
Michael was in Hameln at the 13.August 1992 ? Usualy the city was not big enough, but he loved this old "Märchen", the city is called " Märchenstadt ", and so he specialy wanted to give a concert here.
So that's a poof that he was comfort with the " Rattenfänger from Hameln" who leadet all the ratts with his sweet play on the Whistler out of the city.....the ratts die and the people could live without fear.
Sorry...it's a bad bad explanation....
GEEEZ! i'm german, this is the worst translation i've seen from google yet... <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s -->
funny, that the only translation for 'gay' is 'homosexual'.
i think mo and souza are absolutely right to remind us of the original meaning of the word, which is 'happy' and not 'homo'. and it is used in many old song lyrics, like the classic hollywood musicals (which mike was a BIG fan of).
i have a feeling that we were on the right track here, making the conncetion to a 'whistler'/ announcer and then the 'getting rid of the rats' parallel. and i think a lot of things in this hoax are constructed that way. you have to turn everything into another direction, find something that makes sense or leads you to another meaning/ interpretation.
like a huge brain-training for everybody...THINK!!!
just the fact that we here came from this 'gay' story to the piper of hameln and all the connections with mike there, ought to show that we must be right thinking the way we do. digging jason and his lame claim up don't make no sense. the piper parallel does!
Comments
The sentence
"International superstar Michael Jackson has named the piece his "favorite song"."
was added to wikipedia by a cable net connected desktop with an IP in Toronto, Canada on March 21, 2010. The same editor named the piece later a "Symphonic poem/Tone poem".
I need to learn how to do that too. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
It could give insight in many things.
but what can we do with this particular information?
Any suggestons?
Save it for a rainy day?! LOL <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
The sentence was added just recently.
We do not know why though.
Sometimes I have the impression that we are doing some hide and seek in an edutainment show and that some things are planted for us on purpose to be found at a certain moment.
(Just as the video popped up on twitter - some folks may know we are following twitter and that the groups' appearances are relatively steady in the web = predictable.)
So this could be pure coincidence why you found the video and the wiki entry.
It could mean also the contrary: both were planted.
<!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
what do you mean 'i'm history'? i hope you meant something like 'thanks for the story'? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
WOW!
i firmly believe that a lot of bits and pieces are planted, very probably a lot more than we will find.
<!-- s
edit: I heard mike say in an interview that he loves classical music and he mentioned a few, among them debussy. if you like classical music, there is no way around debussy. just like there is no way around mike regarding modern music... <!-- s
is that a record with only 59 replies.. <!-- s
sorry had to say that!!!
For Klein's shirt...I never saw Michael wearing green...made me think of this old story : never wear green clothes on stage, because it's the color Molière was wearing the day he died on stage. It's supposed to be "bad luck"
guys we dont want to be like the fool who killed his friend trying to save that friends life !!
<!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/03/jermaine-<!-- m --> ... ons-video/
Jermaine Jackson -- Curse You, Dr. Klein!
Originally posted May 3rd 2010 1:10 PM PDT by TMZ Staff
Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine had a few words for Dr. Arnie Klein this morning regarding his accusations that MJ was gay -- most of them of the four-letter variety
*
so i guss u shold till jermaine to look into the gay word in wikipidea !! <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
ether he is not in the hoax or Dr. Arnie Klein is not !!
pick ur choice ... what its goona be !!
if the word gay have a different meaning than a homosexual then what is "we were lovers in his last 2 months mean?"
does it have deeper meaning in the wikipedia that we should go looking for ? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
pleas stop spreading that for god seak !
MJ said he is not gay than thats it ... we believe him .
end of the story .
"Barrie never described Peter's appearance in detail, even in the novel Peter and Wendy, leaving much of it to the imagination of the reader and the interpretation of anyone adapting the character. Barrie mentions in "Peter and Wendy" that Peter Pan still had all of his baby teeth. He describes him as a beautiful boy with a beautiful smile, "clad in skeleton leaves and the juices that flow from trees". In the play, Peter's outfit is made of autumn leaves and cobwebs. His name and playing the flute vaguely suggest the mythological character Pan."
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<!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_%28mythology%29<!-- m -->
<!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Man<!-- m -->
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(Also, Osiris.. <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris<!-- m --> )
ok
we all know what gay means as souza explained !
I will agree with u on that one for now !
but Dr. Arnold Klein did say :
"Jason Pfeiffer was"the love of [Jackson's] life "!!
He did, however, add that Jackson’s alleged two-month fling with Pfeiffer was "the only homosexual relationship he believes the singer has had".
now .... if he just sayed gay i would hav agree with u on what u post here but what about those two sentence ??
*the love of [Jackson's] life !
*homosexual relationship !
as u see he didt leave us with any other choice about the meaning of the word gay !!
get the point ??
so pleas stop promoting lies by philosophing it !! <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
pleas stop promoting lies by philosophing it !!
gay mean homosexual !!
i dont have anything against gays but i have a big proplem against liyers .
I know u meant well but it just not helping in any way !
U are going the worn way .
for god seak clos this topic .
it's not right for MJ .
Alle the ppl who has nothing lerned about the tabloids and the gossip...all the ones who judged without knowing anything....alll the bad bad ppl come out.
At the end of the Märchen from Whistler in Hameln the ratts are dead......
I hope at this end all the bad are quiet !
My grandma told me when i am a little girl....if you can't say anything good about someone. say nothing !
Hameln has to much ratts...the whistler comes and play on the whistle, all ratts come out and followed him out of the city in the river "Weser" and the ratts are dead.
Hameln was free of ratts, but the whistler wasn't payed for this...
So he come back.....AT THE: 26.Juni !!!
now heplay the whistle for the children...all children followed him and his play and never came back....
26.June...concidence ?
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