And I'm not a lawyer or anything, but isn't it normal procedure to gather enough evidence first, before you can bring someone to trial??
In other words, now that MJ is out of the way, the guilty can be caught in action, robbing the estate of its money, due to a fake will, or letting AEG simmer and see what they are really up to. MJ did say " I'll play with them for a while". (meaning AEG) I'll button up my shirt or jacket or whatever it is, I'll snap my fingers and then BAM !!!
These cases can take a long time. The Lawyers have to gather enough evidence first..
Are you referring to the criminal trial or the civil trial? In a murder case, there is not a statue of limitations in the US so all the prosecutors have to have is enough evidence to charge someone then the police can still work the case. In a civil case, a defendant does not have to answer questions about the civil case if they may be a part of a criminal case. Especially if it incriminates them in the criminal case, atleast that is my understanding. I am not a lawyer but my husband is a retired Federal Agent.
I honestly do not think it is strange to file a civil lawsuit in the time frame that the Jackson family did. Having said that, I am not saying that the lawsuit is not part of a hoax. When there are criminal charges pending, usually lawyers wait until the criminal charges are dealt with, this way any evidence that is used in the criminal trial can be used in the civil trial where the burden of proof is also less than the burden of proof in a criminal trial.
karen924, thankyou for explaining that to me. I definitely didn't study law at school <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> And it shows..
And I'm not a lawyer or anything, but isn't it normal procedure to gather enough evidence first, before you can bring someone to trial??
In other words, now that MJ is out of the way, the guilty can be caught in action, robbing the estate of its money, due to a fake will, or letting AEG simmer and see what they are really up to. MJ did say " I'll play with them for a while". (meaning AEG) I'll button up my shirt or jacket or whatever it is, I'll snap my fingers and then BAM !!!
These cases can take a long time. The Lawyers have to gather enough evidence first..
Just my thoughts....it's all for L.O.V.E xoxoxo
A civil suit is a lawsuit whereby the plaintiff claims that the defendant’s actions or negligence caused damages (losses and/or suffering). In a civil suit, no crime has occurred, per se, but some wrongdoing has been committed. Through a civil suit, the plaintiff seeks money from the defendant.
A civil suit is different from a criminal case. A criminal case is filed by the prosecutor charging an individual with committing a criminal act. If convicted, a criminal defendant can face fines, incarceration, and a variety of other penalties. If a defendant is found guilty in a civil suit, they are typically required to pay restitution to the aggrieved plaintiff. This money is intended to compensate the plaintiff for the damages they have suffered.
In a civil suit, the plaintiff must prove by a preponderance of evidence, that the defendant committed the acts in question. They must also show that the defendant’s actions or negligence caused the damages suffered by the plaintiff.
The burden of proof required in a civil suit requires that the plaintiff prove their version of the facts is “more than likely” to be true. This burden of proof varies greatly from the one required in a criminal case. A civil suit must be filed within a certain time period. This time period is called the statute of limitations. In most cases the statute of limitations in a civil suit begins at the time of the wrongdoing, though in some cases it begins at the time of discovery. A civil suit must be filed within that certain period of time for the claim to be valid. The statute of limitations varies by case and circumstance.
Generally, it is important for the criminal prosecution to proceed first, because a conviction in the criminal prosecution can help establish liability in the civil lawsuit.
If the time to file a civil lawsuit will run out before the end of the prosecution, the civil lawsuit may be filed while the prosecution is still pending.
Starting with Page 2 of this document/FICTION story:
3. At the time of Michael Jackson’s death, Michael Jackson was in a contract with AEG that covered the production of a lengthy tour of live shows - the “This is It” Tour--featuring Michael Jackson.
That JUMPED out at me and said HELLO!
Why on earth would a REAL legal document word The This is It tour that way? With the hyphens like we see in TMZ articles and the quote marks emphasizing and drawing attention to that?
Then after trying to give this document the benefit of doubt on the chance it is legit, LMAO
This was the clincher for me to know from then on it is ALL RUBBISH and it is a work of fiction. The court papers only. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
From Page 5
26. Around the same time in early May 2009, AEG retained Dr. Conrad Murray (“Murray“) to be Jackson‘s personal “concierge“ physician and to exclusively treat Jackson.
Really? Highlight the name ("Murray") like that? Like how we say his name here, last name only. lol
So many of the sentences were repeated only in a different way but, it just kept regurgitating the same thing over and over.
I do understand that this situation is NOT a joke it is very serious and it is being used to EXPOSE the CROOKS.
That document told exactly what happened in a first person narrative, by their accounts of what went down.
So I am not dismissing the words but, I am calling this document B.S. and hilarious to read.
I really felt like I was reading pages from a work of fiction/Novel.
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This document is riddled with clues.
Peace
The "riot act" is highlighted for attention, and the date of May 8th is noted in the lawsuit... what a terrible thing to be incorporated into effect on my b-day month and day.
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United States
The principle of the Riot Act was incorporated into the first Militia Act (1 Stat. 264) of 8 May 1792. The act's long title was "An act to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions".
Section 3 of the Militia Act gave power to the President to issue a proclamation to "command the insurgents to disperse, and retire peaceably to their respective abodes, within a limited time", and authorised him to use the militia if they failed to do so. Substantively identical language is presently codified at chapter 15 of title 10, United States Code.
In another thread I wrote that I'd read Leonard Rowe's book. I was drawn to it, not because Rowe is a laudable figure from what's out there in the press, but because he
use to work for Michael, was fired, and then called back to work for him (accordingly to Rowe), a few months before 6/25/09. I'm drawn to anything that continues to repeat this pattern of Michael re-employing people only months before that fateful day. That is more than a coincidence.
Ultimately, Rowe's book is about AEG and the racism of concert promoters. Weren't we discussing somewhere awhile ago that Murray's role is to expose all these jokers and ensnare them by any means necessary? So, is it farfetched to believe that Mrs. Jackson is helping Michael to do this and it's by design that on one end, she is suing AEG and Joe Jackson is on the other end suing Murray?
Then Murray's role is to ensnare everyone that Michael's trying to bring down including AEG and Arnie Klein. What if Michael married Debbie to get the information he needed about Klein the way MJ may have done with LMP to get the information he needed about hoaxes?
MJ's song Morphine, is a song to say, I see what you're doing with your demerol, etc.
Perhaps MJ learned what Arnie Klein was really about with his drug pushing, he wrote a song about it, and got even more info about him when MJ married Debbie...probably very damaging info...
And, what does Back say about Klein and others:
"What is relevant is the immense potential for blowback. And i'm not going down alone."
Re: TMZ Live -- Dr. Arnie Klein ... Take Two
Calm thy nerves.......
Arnie IS on the de-Klein
He's desperate and scared sh*tless
Because he knows it's just a matter of tImE.......
Tables are meant to be turned!
And lying backstabbers shall reap what they sow.
Your so hitting the nail on the head.
I have noticed this theme as well and had drawn a conclusion...
Mike knows his enemies and lured them with the one thing he KNOWS backstabbers wont turn down and they will do ANYTHING FOR MONEY!
Don't let the RIGHT HAND know what the LEFT HAND is doing.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
The best way to take down your enemy is to infiltrate them and become one of them.
Deep Undercover
Smooth Criminal <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
WE KNOW IS A HOAX
WHAT IF...
MICHAEL "DIED"
AEG BUY THE STORY OF THE DEAD, MADE MEMORIAL, MADE FUNERAL... ALL AEG ... (FILMED HQ <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
THEY DO THE MOVIE, THE CD...
WHO IS PROFITING OF THE "DEATH"????
THE KIDS NAME´S ARE WRONG OR ARE THE TRUE NAMES?
PRINCE: MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON JR.
PARIS: PARIS-MICHAEL KATHERINE JACKSON
BLANKET: PRINCE MICHAEL JACKSON II
WHY BLANKET THE II IF PRINCE IS NOT CALLED PRINCE?
AND PRINCE IS MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON JR FOR US TO BUY THE STORY OF MICHAEL JOSEPH DEAD?
that is exactly what stood out for me in this lawsuit!Randy said the will was fake didnt he? are these not how the children's names appear on the fake will
what i want to know is that if these are not the children's legal names then does that mean the lawsuit is not legit? can it be used in court at all? why would Katherine not use the real names of her grandchildren?
are we having another Joseph/ Joe situation? <!-- s --><!-- s -->
@Iamconvincedmjalive - yes putting Murray in quotes is not the normal procedure for court docs. They usually refer to the Plaintiff or Defendant, and that is usually stated in the Style of Cause (which shows the parties and court action)... it is there where it is defined and so throughout the brief, the parties are referred to as Plaintiff or Defendant, as the case may be. However, in other cases, usually when documents are drafted which are non-litigious, parties can be referred to as "Murray" or "Jackson", for example in any entertainment contract or business contract parties are referred to as whatever the lawyer chooses to make it simplistic enough....other language you see generally is in leases where the parties are referred to as "landlord" or "lessor" and "tenant" or Lessee".
I am not sure who drafted these pleadings but I sure hope it isn't a lawyer because it is atrocious drafting and not at all a typically highly paid lawyer would do. I would expect that the Jacksons would hire the best for this case and it is obvious they have not lol. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
@Iamconvincedmjalive - yes putting Murray in quotes is not the normal procedure for court docs. They usually refer to the Plaintiff or Defendant, and that is usually stated in the Style of Cause (which shows the parties and court action)... it is there where it is defined and so throughout the brief, the parties are referred to as Plaintiff or Defendant, as the case may be. However, in other cases, usually when documents are drafted which are non-litigious, parties can be referred to as "Murray" or "Jackson", for example in any entertainment contract or business contract parties are referred to as whatever the lawyer chooses to make it simplistic enough....other language you see generally is in leases where the parties are referred to as "landlord" or "lessor" and "tenant" or Lessee".
I am not sure who drafted these pleadings but I sure hope it isn't a lawyer because it is atrocious drafting and not at all a typically highly paid lawyer would do. I would expect that the Jacksons would hire the best for this case and it is obvious they have not lol. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Of course! *face-palm* shelby61 and Imconvincedmjalive, great posts!
Looking coldly, it may be that AEG would make Michael incapable of achievement, linking him to drugs (and thus take advantage of its properties - the catalog, mostly). Maybe that's what Peter Lopez meant when he said: "It was not to happen this way" (or something along those lines). MJ should end up in hospital due to an overdose, but something "wrong" and accidentally killed her? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> It seems there is a deception or concealment of any kind. I do not know what to think right about one thing or another ... but I know I want to know the truth, whatever.
Im_convincedmjalive...Great break down of document.I noticed on page 6 the address as 100 Carolwood Way.Shouldn't it be 100 Nth Carolwood Drive.I would think something like the address would have to be 100% correct,and definitely proof read after its completion as it is meant to be a legal document. Also the word tour is emphasised with a capital T everywhere,which looks quite odd.Its as if it was done on purpose to draw attention to it.Cheers xxxooo.
The thing that's bugging me about this lawsuit is that we were only shown a heavily redacted contract between AEG and Michael Jackson, but so far I still haven't seen the signed rider that MUST accompany the contract, otherwise the contract is not valid at all.
The rider is the most important part of a gig contract, without a signed rider there's not gonna be a gig at all.
I'm really curious as to how AEG knew what the measurements of the required stage were, who was gonna provide the stagehands, what kind of PA was going to be used, where the mixer would have been placed, what kind of power supply was needed, how many dressing rooms were required, what was needed for catering, etcetera etcetera etcetera if there was no rider. Without knowing about and agreeing on these details and many more, there is not going to be a show at all, period.
WE KNOW IS A HOAX
WHAT IF...
MICHAEL "DIED"
AEG BUY THE STORY OF THE DEAD, MADE MEMORIAL, MADE FUNERAL... ALL AEG ... (FILMED HQ <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> )
THEY DO THE MOVIE, THE CD...
WHO IS PROFITING OF THE "DEATH"????
THE KIDS NAME´S ARE WRONG OR ARE THE TRUE NAMES?
PRINCE: MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON JR.
PARIS: PARIS-MICHAEL KATHERINE JACKSON
BLANKET: PRINCE MICHAEL JACKSON II
WHY BLANKET THE II IF PRINCE IS NOT CALLED PRINCE?
AND PRINCE IS MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON JR FOR US TO BUY THE STORY OF MICHAEL JOSEPH DEAD?
Blanket is named Prince Michael Jackson II after Katherine's dad (i believe, but may be wrong). Prince Michael I is on Katherine's side....and Michael named his 3rd child after him...making the child Prince Michael II
I have read through the complaint and came across some words that were used quite frequently which really isn't odd since this is a 'legal' document but what is odd are the words themselves. Below are the 5 causes of actions and the wording(s) that I found:
Page 4:
Defendants DOES 1-100 are currently unkown to Plaintiffs at this time and Plaintiffs reserve the right to add them as defendants as their identity and culpability becomes known.
Pages 9 - 12:
FIRST CAUSE OF ACTION: BREACH OF CONTRACT BASED AND OTHER DUTIES OF CARE is againt AEG and DOES 1-75.
was threatened that if he did not comply
physical inuries
The AEG defendants and DOES 1-75 were involved in a civil conspiracy to commit these wrongs against Michael Jackson.
Pages 13 and 14:
SECOND CAUSE OF ACTION: NEGLIGENT HIRING, TRAINING, AND SUPERVISION against AEG and DOES 1-75
The Second Cause of Action is againt......and DOES 1-75.
receive no treatment from other physicians
specifically requested a full-time nurse and Cardio-Pulmonary Resuscitation equipment for the treatment of Jackson
The AEG defendants and DOES 1-75 were involved in a civil conspiracy to commit these wrongs against Michael Jackson.
physical injuries Pages 14 and 15:
THIRD CAUSE OF ACTION: FRAUD and CONSTRUCTIVE FRAUD as against AEG and DOES 1-75
The Third Cause of Action is againtst..............and DOES 1-75
June 18th as well as at other dates and times.
injured
The AEG defendants and DOES 1-75 were involved in a civil conspiracy to commit these wrongs against Michael Jackson. Page 15:
FOURTH CAUSE OF ACTION: NEGLIGENT INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS (DILLON V. LEGG) against AEG and DOES 1-75
The Fourth Cause of Action is brought by...as against AEG Live.....and DOES 1-100
being injured
injured Page 16:
FIFTH CAUSE OF ACTION: RESPONDEAT SUPERIOR AS AGAINST AEG and DOES 1-100 FOR MURRAY'S NEGLIGENCE)
The Fifth Cause of Action is against AEG Live.......and DOES 1-100.
physical injuries
to treat Jackson's insomnia on an outpatient basis
The AEG defendants, Murray, and DOES 1-100 were involved in a civil conspiracy to commit these wrongs against Michael Jackson.
physical injuries
So what words do we have and how many times are they repeated?
4 physical injuries
3 injured
4 civil conspiracies
1 threatened
1 outpatient basis to treat insomnia
1 request for nurse and equipment
1 no treatment from other physicians
1 defendants, Murray and DOES 1-100
3 defendants, Murray and DOES 1-75
3 causes of actions listing DOES 1-75
2 causes of actions listing DOES 1-100
1 June 18 as well as other dates and times
As I was looking at these words I'm asking myself what is physical injuries doing in this complaint? Michael did not 'die' of any physical injuries - he died of acute propofol overdose. However broken bones and burns would be considered physical injuries and what does one take for the pain that goes along with these injuries? Prescription medications. I think this complaint is telling us Michaels life and how/why the King Of Pop/Michael Jackson died on June 25th, 2009.
Another part of this that caught my eye were the words civil conspiracy:
Conspiracy is a separate offense, by which someone conspires or agrees with someone else to do something which, if actually carried out, would amount to another federal crime or offense. It is an agreement or a kind of partnership for criminal purposes in which each member becomes the agent or partner of every other member. It is not necessary to prove that the criminal plan actually was accomplished or that the conspirator was involved in all stages of the planning or knew all of the details involved. The main elements that need to be proven are a voluntary agreement to participate and some overt act by one of the conspirators in furtherance of the criminal plan. If a person has an understanding of the unlawful nature of a plan and knowingly and willfully joins in that plan on one occasion, that is sufficient to convict him for conspiracy even though he had not participated before and even though he played only a minor part. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful.
Wheel and chain conspiracies are two types of conspiracies described in prosecuting offenders. A chain conspiracy involves parties linked together in a linear fashion. Typical drug or firearm smuggling organizations are chain conspiracies. It may consist of a series of drug deals, from manufacturer to the street dealer. In a wheel conspiracy, the ringleader is the "hub" and subsidiary parties are the "spokes". It is generally easier for prosecution to prove that a "chain" constituted a single conspiracy than it is to prove that a "wheel" was a single organization.
Ok so now we may have the root of this complaint - the people who kept Michael supplied with the drugs to keep him under control and they, in my opinion are represented by the DOES 1-100 AND DOES 1-75 that are mentioned repeatedly in the complaint.
And what does DOES mean?
Criminal Complaint
A criminal complaint charges the person named or an unknown person with a particular offense. For example, after the bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995, authorities issued a john doe complaint, charging an unknown person or persons with the crime.
Let's look a little closer at the earlier years, the tours and how they fit in with This Is It and the complaint and also keep in mind the accusations and the trial:
1. The Bad World Tour was the first solo concert tour by Michael Jackson = This Is It was Michael's first concert in 12 years, kind of like being his first all over again.
2. On September 12, 1987 Michael kicked off his first ever solo tour at the Korakuen-Stadium (meanwhile known as Tokyo Dome) in Tokyo, Japan. = the O2 was known as the Millenium Dome.
3. Michael had invited the magicians Siegfried and Roy to create illusions for his "Bad" tour and, in return, wrote a special number, "Mind Is The Magic", to open their show at the Mirage Hotel in Las Vegas = Michael hired Ed Alonzo, the "Misfit of Magic" 6 weeks prior to his 'death'.
4. Before the tour even kicked off, new costumes and stage effects were in production for the second leg. This was due to the lack of preparation time Jackson had = In the movie it is stated new costumes and effects were in the making and the shows got pushed back because of time!
5. Tickets for the concert could not be purchased at regular box offices, as a special lottery system determined ticket receivers = The Memorial had a lottery for the ticketsDangerous tour dates:
Start date June 27, 1992
End date November 11, 1993
The tour, sponsored by Pepsi-Cola
***Similarities between the Dangerous tour and Katherines complaint:
During the tour's third leg in 1993, Jackson decided to end the tour due to, as he announced, illness which ultimately resulted in hospitalization. Jackson had become dependent on painkillers and suffered from dehydration, migraines, back aches, frequent ankle injuries and stress.
but due to pressure as a result of the child abuse accusations (which were generating huge media and press attention), as well as various health problems and injuries, Jackson ended the tour in Mexico.
It is speculated that Jackson began taking Valium, Xanax and Ativan (known as lorazepam (this is listed in the autopsy report) in the UK) to deal with the stress of the accusations made against him. By the fall of 1993, Jackson became addicted to pain killers, and went into drug rehabilitation for a few months.
***Now here are the similarities between the Dangerous tour and This Is It:
The tour also incorporated several stage illusions.
Each concert also began with a illusion-like stunt dubbed "the Toaster"
Jackson sold the film rights to his concert in Bucharest on October 1, 1992 to HBO for $21 million.
In 2004, the concert was released on DVD as part of Jackson's Ultimate Collection box set.
History tour dates:
Start date September 7, 1996
End date October 15, 1997
50 June 18, 1997 Milan Italy San Siro 90,000
The birth of Kingdom International, a joint venture between Jackson and HRH Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, the nephew of the Fahd bin Abdul Aziz, the King of Saudi Arabia from 1982 to 2005, was announced at a press conference held at the Palais des Congres in Paris, France on 19 March 1995.
It was then announced that Jackson would embark on his third solo world tour.
For me the three tours show a connection with injuries, drugs, the movie and a connection with powerful organizations (Pepsi and the King of Saudi Arabia).
Notice under the causes in the complaint it lists either AEG and DOES 1-100 or AEG and DOES 1-75. How can they list under a cause the number of DOES? I bet they do know who these DOES are and that is the trial that we will be seeing. My guess is that Murray is represented but as one of the DOES and not as Conrad Murray and AEG represents the big guys who were behind all of this.
MICHAEL WE LOVE YOU NO MATTER WHAT AND WE WILL BE HERE NO MATTER WHAT!
So what words do we have and how many times are they repeated?
4 physical injuries
3 injured
4 civil conspiracies
1 threatened
1 outpatient basis to treat insomnia
1 request for nurse and equipment
1 no treatment from other physicians
1 defendants, Murray and DOES 1-100
3 defendants, Murray and DOES 1-75
3 causes of actions listing DOES 1-75
2 causes of actions listing DOES 1-100
1 June 18 as well as other dates and times
To me, once I read the AR, came to my mind that we are seeing an event that happened backwords, in the past. Injury, cause by the police btw.
Also, I am sure that the last trials made MJ depressed and unable to sleep--->leading may be to the use of pain killers and sleeping tablets?
So what words do we have and how many times are they repeated?
4 physical injuries
3 injured
4 civil conspiracies
1 threatened
1 outpatient basis to treat insomnia
1 request for nurse and equipment
1 no treatment from other physicians
1 defendants, Murray and DOES 1-100
3 defendants, Murray and DOES 1-75
3 causes of actions listing DOES 1-75
2 causes of actions listing DOES 1-100
1 June 18 as well as other dates and times
To me, once I read the AR, came to my mind that we are seeing an event that happened backwords, in the past. Injury, cause by the police btw.
Also, I am sure that the last trials made MJ depressed and unable to sleep--->leading may be to the use of pain killers and sleeping tablets?
In either way, the last trial destroyed him.
There was only ONE trial...the previous accusations never made it to court.
Iamhere4MJ, are you a beLIEver, that MJ is alive and hoaxed his death? Thanks for all your info and perspective.
Yes, I believe that Michael is alive and yes this hoax was planned. We may have lost the King Of Pop but we didn't lose Michael. God Bless Joseph and Katherine.
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hugs and love
A civil suit is a lawsuit whereby the plaintiff claims that the defendant’s actions or negligence caused damages (losses and/or suffering). In a civil suit, no crime has occurred, per se, but some wrongdoing has been committed. Through a civil suit, the plaintiff seeks money from the defendant.
A civil suit is different from a criminal case. A criminal case is filed by the prosecutor charging an individual with committing a criminal act. If convicted, a criminal defendant can face fines, incarceration, and a variety of other penalties. If a defendant is found guilty in a civil suit, they are typically required to pay restitution to the aggrieved plaintiff. This money is intended to compensate the plaintiff for the damages they have suffered.
In a civil suit, the plaintiff must prove by a preponderance of evidence, that the defendant committed the acts in question. They must also show that the defendant’s actions or negligence caused the damages suffered by the plaintiff.
The burden of proof required in a civil suit requires that the plaintiff prove their version of the facts is “more than likely” to be true. This burden of proof varies greatly from the one required in a criminal case. A civil suit must be filed within a certain time period. This time period is called the statute of limitations. In most cases the statute of limitations in a civil suit begins at the time of the wrongdoing, though in some cases it begins at the time of discovery. A civil suit must be filed within that certain period of time for the claim to be valid. The statute of limitations varies by case and circumstance.
Generally, it is important for the criminal prosecution to proceed first, because a conviction in the criminal prosecution can help establish liability in the civil lawsuit.
If the time to file a civil lawsuit will run out before the end of the prosecution, the civil lawsuit may be filed while the prosecution is still pending.
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Starting with Page 2 of this document/FICTION story:
3. At the time of Michael Jackson’s death, Michael Jackson was in a contract with AEG that covered the production of a lengthy tour of live shows - the “This is It” Tour--featuring Michael Jackson.
That JUMPED out at me and said HELLO!
Why on earth would a REAL legal document word The This is It tour that way? With the hyphens like we see in TMZ articles and the quote marks emphasizing and drawing attention to that?
Then after trying to give this document the benefit of doubt on the chance it is legit, LMAO
This was the clincher for me to know from then on it is ALL RUBBISH and it is a work of fiction. The court papers only. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
From Page 5
26. Around the same time in early May 2009, AEG retained Dr. Conrad Murray (“Murray“) to be Jackson‘s personal “concierge“ physician and to exclusively treat Jackson.
Really? Highlight the name ("Murray") like that? Like how we say his name here, last name only. lol
So many of the sentences were repeated only in a different way but, it just kept regurgitating the same thing over and over.
I do understand that this situation is NOT a joke it is very serious and it is being used to EXPOSE the CROOKS.
That document told exactly what happened in a first person narrative, by their accounts of what went down.
So I am not dismissing the words but, I am calling this document B.S. and hilarious to read.
I really felt like I was reading pages from a work of fiction/Novel.
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This document is riddled with clues.
Peace
The "riot act" is highlighted for attention, and the date of May 8th is noted in the lawsuit... what a terrible thing to be incorporated into effect on my b-day month and day.
<!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_Act<!-- m -->
United States
The principle of the Riot Act was incorporated into the first Militia Act (1 Stat. 264) of 8 May 1792. The act's long title was "An act to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions".
Section 3 of the Militia Act gave power to the President to issue a proclamation to "command the insurgents to disperse, and retire peaceably to their respective abodes, within a limited time", and authorised him to use the militia if they failed to do so. Substantively identical language is presently codified at chapter 15 of title 10, United States Code.
Your so hitting the nail on the head.
I have noticed this theme as well and had drawn a conclusion...
Mike knows his enemies and lured them with the one thing he KNOWS backstabbers wont turn down and they will do ANYTHING FOR MONEY!
Don't let the RIGHT HAND know what the LEFT HAND is doing.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
The best way to take down your enemy is to infiltrate them and become one of them.
Deep Undercover
Smooth Criminal <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
that is exactly what stood out for me in this lawsuit!Randy said the will was fake didnt he? are these not how the children's names appear on the fake will
what i want to know is that if these are not the children's legal names then does that mean the lawsuit is not legit? can it be used in court at all? why would Katherine not use the real names of her grandchildren?
are we having another Joseph/ Joe situation? <!-- s
I am not sure who drafted these pleadings but I sure hope it isn't a lawyer because it is atrocious drafting and not at all a typically highly paid lawyer would do. I would expect that the Jacksons would hire the best for this case and it is obvious they have not lol. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
Of course! *face-palm* shelby61 and Imconvincedmjalive, great posts!
Excellent observation! Thank you and God bless you for sharing! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
The thing that's bugging me about this lawsuit is that we were only shown a heavily redacted contract between AEG and Michael Jackson, but so far I still haven't seen the signed rider that MUST accompany the contract, otherwise the contract is not valid at all.
The rider is the most important part of a gig contract, without a signed rider there's not gonna be a gig at all.
I'm really curious as to how AEG knew what the measurements of the required stage were, who was gonna provide the stagehands, what kind of PA was going to be used, where the mixer would have been placed, what kind of power supply was needed, how many dressing rooms were required, what was needed for catering, etcetera etcetera etcetera if there was no rider. Without knowing about and agreeing on these details and many more, there is not going to be a show at all, period.
So...
Where is that rider..?
Blanket is named Prince Michael Jackson II after Katherine's dad (i believe, but may be wrong). Prince Michael I is on Katherine's side....and Michael named his 3rd child after him...making the child Prince Michael II
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Defendants DOES 1-100 are currently unkown to Plaintiffs at this time and Plaintiffs reserve the right to add them as defendants as their identity and culpability becomes known.
Pages 9 - 12:
FIRST CAUSE OF ACTION: BREACH OF CONTRACT BASED AND OTHER DUTIES OF CARE is againt AEG and DOES 1-75.
was threatened that if he did not comply
physical inuries
The AEG defendants and DOES 1-75 were involved in a civil conspiracy to commit these wrongs against Michael Jackson.
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SECOND CAUSE OF ACTION: NEGLIGENT HIRING, TRAINING, AND SUPERVISION against AEG and DOES 1-75
The Second Cause of Action is againt......and DOES 1-75.
receive no treatment from other physicians
specifically requested a full-time nurse and Cardio-Pulmonary Resuscitation equipment for the treatment of Jackson
The AEG defendants and DOES 1-75 were involved in a civil conspiracy to commit these wrongs against Michael Jackson.
physical injuries
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THIRD CAUSE OF ACTION: FRAUD and CONSTRUCTIVE FRAUD as against AEG and DOES 1-75
The Third Cause of Action is againtst..............and DOES 1-75
June 18th as well as at other dates and times.
injured
The AEG defendants and DOES 1-75 were involved in a civil conspiracy to commit these wrongs against Michael Jackson.
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FOURTH CAUSE OF ACTION: NEGLIGENT INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS (DILLON V. LEGG) against AEG and DOES 1-75
The Fourth Cause of Action is brought by...as against AEG Live.....and DOES 1-100
being injured
injured
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FIFTH CAUSE OF ACTION: RESPONDEAT SUPERIOR AS AGAINST AEG and DOES 1-100 FOR MURRAY'S NEGLIGENCE)
The Fifth Cause of Action is against AEG Live.......and DOES 1-100.
physical injuries
to treat Jackson's insomnia on an outpatient basis
The AEG defendants, Murray, and DOES 1-100 were involved in a civil conspiracy to commit these wrongs against Michael Jackson.
physical injuries
So what words do we have and how many times are they repeated?
4 physical injuries
3 injured
4 civil conspiracies
1 threatened
1 outpatient basis to treat insomnia
1 request for nurse and equipment
1 no treatment from other physicians
1 defendants, Murray and DOES 1-100
3 defendants, Murray and DOES 1-75
3 causes of actions listing DOES 1-75
2 causes of actions listing DOES 1-100
1 June 18 as well as other dates and times
As I was looking at these words I'm asking myself what is physical injuries doing in this complaint? Michael did not 'die' of any physical injuries - he died of acute propofol overdose. However broken bones and burns would be considered physical injuries and what does one take for the pain that goes along with these injuries? Prescription medications. I think this complaint is telling us Michaels life and how/why the King Of Pop/Michael Jackson died on June 25th, 2009.
Another part of this that caught my eye were the words civil conspiracy:
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Conspiracy Law & Legal Definition
Conspiracy is a separate offense, by which someone conspires or agrees with someone else to do something which, if actually carried out, would amount to another federal crime or offense. It is an agreement or a kind of partnership for criminal purposes in which each member becomes the agent or partner of every other member. It is not necessary to prove that the criminal plan actually was accomplished or that the conspirator was involved in all stages of the planning or knew all of the details involved. The main elements that need to be proven are a voluntary agreement to participate and some overt act by one of the conspirators in furtherance of the criminal plan. If a person has an understanding of the unlawful nature of a plan and knowingly and willfully joins in that plan on one occasion, that is sufficient to convict him for conspiracy even though he had not participated before and even though he played only a minor part. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful.
Wheel and chain conspiracies are two types of conspiracies described in prosecuting offenders. A chain conspiracy involves parties linked together in a linear fashion. Typical drug or firearm smuggling organizations are chain conspiracies. It may consist of a series of drug deals, from manufacturer to the street dealer. In a wheel conspiracy, the ringleader is the "hub" and subsidiary parties are the "spokes". It is generally easier for prosecution to prove that a "chain" constituted a single conspiracy than it is to prove that a "wheel" was a single organization.
Ok so now we may have the root of this complaint - the people who kept Michael supplied with the drugs to keep him under control and they, in my opinion are represented by the DOES 1-100 AND DOES 1-75 that are mentioned repeatedly in the complaint.
And what does DOES mean?
Criminal Complaint
A criminal complaint charges the person named or an unknown person with a particular offense. For example, after the bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995, authorities issued a john doe complaint, charging an unknown person or persons with the crime.
Let's look a little closer at the earlier years, the tours and how they fit in with This Is It and the complaint and also keep in mind the accusations and the trial:
Bad tour dates:
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Start date September 12, 1987
End date January 27, 1989
The tour, sponsored by Pepsi
***Similarities between the Bad tour and TII:
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1. The Bad World Tour was the first solo concert tour by Michael Jackson = This Is It was Michael's first concert in 12 years, kind of like being his first all over again.
2. On September 12, 1987 Michael kicked off his first ever solo tour at the Korakuen-Stadium (meanwhile known as Tokyo Dome) in Tokyo, Japan. = the O2 was known as the Millenium Dome.
3. Michael had invited the magicians Siegfried and Roy to create illusions for his "Bad" tour and, in return, wrote a special number, "Mind Is The Magic", to open their show at the Mirage Hotel in Las Vegas = Michael hired Ed Alonzo, the "Misfit of Magic" 6 weeks prior to his 'death'.
4. Before the tour even kicked off, new costumes and stage effects were in production for the second leg. This was due to the lack of preparation time Jackson had = In the movie it is stated new costumes and effects were in the making and the shows got pushed back because of time!
5. Tickets for the concert could not be purchased at regular box offices, as a special lottery system determined ticket receivers = The Memorial had a lottery for the tickets
Dangerous tour dates:
Start date June 27, 1992
End date November 11, 1993
The tour, sponsored by Pepsi-Cola
***Similarities between the Dangerous tour and Katherines complaint:
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During the tour's third leg in 1993, Jackson decided to end the tour due to, as he announced, illness which ultimately resulted in hospitalization. Jackson had become dependent on painkillers and suffered from dehydration, migraines, back aches, frequent ankle injuries and stress.
but due to pressure as a result of the child abuse accusations (which were generating huge media and press attention), as well as various health problems and injuries, Jackson ended the tour in Mexico.
It is speculated that Jackson began taking Valium, Xanax and Ativan (known as lorazepam (this is listed in the autopsy report) in the UK) to deal with the stress of the accusations made against him. By the fall of 1993, Jackson became addicted to pain killers, and went into drug rehabilitation for a few months.
***Now here are the similarities between the Dangerous tour and This Is It:
The tour also incorporated several stage illusions.
Each concert also began with a illusion-like stunt dubbed "the Toaster"
Jackson sold the film rights to his concert in Bucharest on October 1, 1992 to HBO for $21 million.
In 2004, the concert was released on DVD as part of Jackson's Ultimate Collection box set.
History tour dates:
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Start date September 7, 1996
End date October 15, 1997
50 June 18, 1997 Milan Italy San Siro 90,000
The birth of Kingdom International, a joint venture between Jackson and HRH Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, the nephew of the Fahd bin Abdul Aziz, the King of Saudi Arabia from 1982 to 2005, was announced at a press conference held at the Palais des Congres in Paris, France on 19 March 1995.
It was then announced that Jackson would embark on his third solo world tour.
For me the three tours show a connection with injuries, drugs, the movie and a connection with powerful organizations (Pepsi and the King of Saudi Arabia).
Notice under the causes in the complaint it lists either AEG and DOES 1-100 or AEG and DOES 1-75. How can they list under a cause the number of DOES? I bet they do know who these DOES are and that is the trial that we will be seeing. My guess is that Murray is represented but as one of the DOES and not as Conrad Murray and AEG represents the big guys who were behind all of this.
MICHAEL WE LOVE YOU NO MATTER WHAT AND WE WILL BE HERE NO MATTER WHAT!
To me, once I read the AR, came to my mind that we are seeing an event that happened backwords, in the past.
Injury, cause by the police btw.
Also, I am sure that the last trials made MJ depressed and unable to sleep--->leading may be to the use of pain killers and sleeping tablets?
In either way, the last trial destroyed him.
There was only ONE trial...the previous accusations never made it to court.
Yes, I believe that Michael is alive and yes this hoax was planned. We may have lost the King Of Pop but we didn't lose Michael. God Bless Joseph and Katherine.
Love you Michael!
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Love you Michael!