I think a lot of us have greatly underestimated the importance of numerology in the hoax, and in the real world for that matter.
I think it's wonderful that more people are doing their research and entertaining these ideas. Even if YOU don't "believe" in it, it's more than likely that Michael does (Elvis too). And it's important to remember that just because one doesn't believe in something, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
One thing I'm absolutely sure of, is that coincidences do not exist.
Perfectly said! Thank you so much! So many investigators have inspired me to dig around and think differently. It's been a real learning experience and opened my eyes to many things. Blessings Always!
at a family gathering last night my sister-in -law who's father had just passed not long ago mentioned that someone in the family made a wreath with sunflowers for memorial day because that was his favorite flower. i quickly ask my brother to confirm what i already knew which is that he was a capricorn. know who else was capricorn. elvis.
at a family gathering last night my sister-in -law who's father had just passed not long ago mentioned that someone in the family made a wreath with sunflowers for memorial day because that was his favorite flower. i quickly ask my brother to confirm what i already knew which is that he was a capricorn. know who else was capricorn. elvis.
Not to be a party pooper but...
I found a Gematria calculator site also and there are three types of calculations:
Jewish Gematria
English Gematria
Simple Gematria
I put the word Neverland into this calculator and obtained the following results:
neverland in Jewish Gematria Equals: 895 ( n40 e5 v700 e5 r80 l20 a1 n40 d4 )
neverland in English Gematria Equals: 570 ( n84 e30 v132 e30 r108 l72 a6 n84 d24 ) neverland in Simple Gematria Equals: 95 ( n14 e5 v22 e5 r18 l12 a1 n14 d4 )
The OP obtained 95 for the word Neverland so this seems to be a simple calculation. The other words that are coming up are only other words that also have a value of 95 when put into the calculator. The words do not actually have any relation to one another besides the same numerical value of the letters when calculated but many words would have the same calculated value. Take Neverland again, one of the words that came up was "discover"
So all that means is that the letters used to create the words Neverland and Discover have the same numerical value using simple Germatria and not really a coincidence many words would have a value of 95 using this system because all words have a numerical value to begin with. http://www.gematrix.org/?word=discover
also get the impression there is a connection between current intries and previous intries. as almost every time the name obama came up it was connected with evil.
also get the impression there is a connection between current intries and previous intries. as almost every time the name obama came up it was connected with evil.
I checked out <!-- w -->www.gematrix.org<!-- w --> and did a few searches. It seems there are words given that are either favorable or negative, could go either way. For instance Thriller = Yehoushua, Murderer, King Tut; and Michael Jackson= Father of Lies, Son of Satan, the abomination of desolation, Power of God, One love; Michael Joe Jackson= The Anti-Christ, Gone too Soon.
But it's almost like some right-wing fundamentalist is working behind the scenes trying to smear Michael. It just seems that for Michael Jackson being a huge household-word/name someone HAS TO BE CHOOSING and selecting words/phrases to drop into people's minds. I'm kinda mixed with this thing... <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
[/quote]But it's almost like some right-wing fundamentalist is working behind the scenes trying to smear Michael. It just seems that for Michael Jackson being a huge household-word/name someone HAS TO BE CHOOSING and selecting words/phrases to drop into people's minds. I'm kinda mixed with this thing... <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->[/quote]
I don't think right-wing fundamentalists are trying to smear Michael. The other words and phrases that come up are indeed interesting. Some negative, some positive. I choose to focus on the positive, so that's what I will always bring forth. The numbers are the same and the coincidence is still there. But, yes, some of those matches are nasty, yucky stuff! Thanks for the reply....always great to hear viewpoints and thoughts!!!!
I don't think right-wing fundamentalists are trying to smear Michael. The other words and phrases that come up are indeed interesting. Some negative, some positive. I choose to focus on the positive, so that's what I will always bring forth. The numbers are the same and the coincidence is still there. But, yes, some of those matches are nasty, yucky stuff! Thanks for the reply....always great to hear viewpoints and thoughts!!!!
Really though, as I previously posted the words coming up have the same numeric value and there are thousands of words that would. The calculator is just generating examples of other words and this does necessarily not mean that there is any real or substantial relationship between the words besides this numeric value.
I think that just because this is 'not easy to understand' doesn't mean that Michael didn't use this. Maybe he knew that someone (like me and some others) would find this and use this 'routine' to get others thinking. Yes, some of the words maybe coincidental, but then again, it may not be. Michael is a smart person; I think that he would do anything to make us confused about this hoax.
"It takes a lot of nothing to prove something, and it takes a lot of something to prove something else."
I don't think right-wing fundamentalists are trying to smear Michael. The other words and phrases that come up are indeed interesting. Some negative, some positive. I choose to focus on the positive, so that's what I will always bring forth. The numbers are the same and the coincidence is still there. But, yes, some of those matches are nasty, yucky stuff! Thanks for the reply....always great to hear viewpoints and thoughts!!!!
Really though, as I previously posted the words coming up have the same numeric value and there are thousands of words that would. The calculator is just generating examples of other words and this does necessarily not mean that there is any real or substantial relationship between the words besides this numeric value.
<!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> any of you girls old enought to remember the thing where you take your name and the one of the guy you like and mark out how many letters are alike and it detemines if you're gonna marry them and stuff? reminds me of that <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
I think that just because this is 'not easy to understand' doesn't mean that Michael didn't use this. Maybe he knew that someone (like me and some others) would find this and use this 'routine' to get others thinking. Yes, some of the words maybe coincidental, but then again, it may not be. Michael is a smart person; I think that he would do anything to make us confused about this hoax.
"It takes a lot of nothing to prove something, and it takes a lot of something to prove something else."
I understand it perfectly.
Gematria is a system of assigning numerical value to a word or phrase, in the belief that words or phrases with identical numerical values bear some relation to each other, or bear some relation to the number itself as it may apply to a person's age, the calendar year, or the like. Although ostensibly derived from Greek, it is largely used in Jewish texts, notably in those associated with the Kabbalah. Though gematria is most often used to calculate the values of individual words, psukim (Biblical verses), Talmudical aphorisms, sentences from the standard Jewish prayers, personal, angelic and Godly names, and other religiously significant material, Kabbalists use them often for arbitrary phrases and, occasionally, for various languages.
There are several methods used to calculate the numerical value for the individual words, phrases or whole sentences. More advanced methods are usually used for the most significant Biblical verses, prayers, names of God and angels etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria
ok well for fun I put my whole name in and some interesting things come up: glove is it scary
world war three
genetic engineering
pearl harbor attack
human salvation
believe in nothing
benevolent light
he who has wisdom
Just my first name
adam repented
blood saccrifice
i am the dragon
repent
genesis 2:24
the gods
leuviah (an angel) http://www.ucm.ca/en/angels/19-leuviah.html baby be mine childhood
Just my last name
the fifth element
gods anointing
numbers
calculation
planet x
pinocchio
pentagon
leviathan duality (hmm I been going on about that for weeks...lol)
yellow paul is dead jacksons unbreakable
my screen name
the stimulus package
covenant
isley brothers
consciousness
harmonic resonance
ignorance is bliss seventy seven
ancient archeology
in god we trust
holy trinity
world cup soccer
transcending time
we band of brothers
it looks like a scam
god of this world obama master of deceit
not of the world
the great spirit
truman doctrine
the gospel of john
horror movies (my favourite movies...lol)
intuitive logic
eye of your mind
poet of alpha and omega
sarah palin is evil
satanic worship
she drives me wild man in the mirror another part of me
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Perfectly said! Thank you so much! So many investigators have inspired me to dig around and think differently. It's been a real learning experience and opened my eyes to many things. Blessings Always!
at a family gathering last night my sister-in -law who's father had just passed not long ago mentioned that someone in the family made a wreath with sunflowers for memorial day because that was his favorite flower. i quickly ask my brother to confirm what i already knew which is that he was a capricorn. know who else was capricorn. elvis.
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Wow!
I found a Gematria calculator site also and there are three types of calculations:
Jewish Gematria
English Gematria
Simple Gematria
I put the word Neverland into this calculator and obtained the following results:
neverland in Jewish Gematria Equals: 895 ( n40 e5 v700 e5 r80 l20 a1 n40 d4 )
neverland in English Gematria Equals: 570 ( n84 e30 v132 e30 r108 l72 a6 n84 d24 )
neverland in Simple Gematria Equals: 95 ( n14 e5 v22 e5 r18 l12 a1 n14 d4 )
The OP obtained 95 for the word Neverland so this seems to be a simple calculation. The other words that are coming up are only other words that also have a value of 95 when put into the calculator. The words do not actually have any relation to one another besides the same numerical value of the letters when calculated but many words would have the same calculated value. Take Neverland again, one of the words that came up was "discover"
discover in Jewish Gematria Equals: 941 ( d4 i9 s90 c3 o50 v700 e5 r80 )
discover in English Gematria Equals: 570 ( d24 i54 s114 c18 o90 v132 e30 r108 )
discover in Simple Gematria Equals: 95 ( d4 i9 s19 c3 o15 v22 e5 r18 )
So all that means is that the letters used to create the words Neverland and Discover have the same numerical value using simple Germatria and not really a coincidence many words would have a value of 95 using this system because all words have a numerical value to begin with.
http://www.gematrix.org/?word=discover
Porno
Tooth
Little
Baby be mine
Childhood
Ha! <!-- s
But it's almost like some right-wing fundamentalist is working behind the scenes trying to smear Michael. It just seems that for Michael Jackson being a huge household-word/name someone HAS TO BE CHOOSING and selecting words/phrases to drop into people's minds. I'm kinda mixed with this thing... <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
I don't think right-wing fundamentalists are trying to smear Michael. The other words and phrases that come up are indeed interesting. Some negative, some positive. I choose to focus on the positive, so that's what I will always bring forth. The numbers are the same and the coincidence is still there. But, yes, some of those matches are nasty, yucky stuff! Thanks for the reply....always great to hear viewpoints and thoughts!!!!
Really though, as I previously posted the words coming up have the same numeric value and there are thousands of words that would. The calculator is just generating examples of other words and this does necessarily not mean that there is any real or substantial relationship between the words besides this numeric value.
"It takes a lot of nothing to prove something, and it takes a lot of something to prove something else."
<!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> any of you girls old enought to remember the thing where you take your name and the one of the guy you like and mark out how many letters are alike and it detemines if you're gonna marry them and stuff? reminds me of that <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
I understand it perfectly.
Gematria is a system of assigning numerical value to a word or phrase, in the belief that words or phrases with identical numerical values bear some relation to each other, or bear some relation to the number itself as it may apply to a person's age, the calendar year, or the like. Although ostensibly derived from Greek, it is largely used in Jewish texts, notably in those associated with the Kabbalah. Though gematria is most often used to calculate the values of individual words, psukim (Biblical verses), Talmudical aphorisms, sentences from the standard Jewish prayers, personal, angelic and Godly names, and other religiously significant material, Kabbalists use them often for arbitrary phrases and, occasionally, for various languages.
There are several methods used to calculate the numerical value for the individual words, phrases or whole sentences. More advanced methods are usually used for the most significant Biblical verses, prayers, names of God and angels etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria
glove
is it scary
world war three
genetic engineering
pearl harbor attack
human salvation
believe in nothing
benevolent light
he who has wisdom
Just my first name
adam repented
blood saccrifice
i am the dragon
repent
genesis 2:24
the gods
leuviah (an angel) http://www.ucm.ca/en/angels/19-leuviah.html
baby be mine
childhood
Just my last name
the fifth element
gods anointing
numbers
calculation
planet x
pinocchio
pentagon
leviathan
duality (hmm I been going on about that for weeks...lol)
yellow
paul is dead
jacksons
unbreakable
my screen name
the stimulus package
covenant
isley brothers
consciousness
harmonic resonance
ignorance is bliss
seventy seven
ancient archeology
in god we trust
holy trinity
world cup soccer
transcending time
we band of brothers
it looks like a scam
god of this world
obama master of deceit
not of the world
the great spirit
truman doctrine
the gospel of john
horror movies (my favourite movies...lol)
intuitive logic
eye of your mind
poet of alpha and omega
sarah palin is evil
satanic worship
she drives me wild
man in the mirror
another part of me
very weird <!-- s
Jewish Gematria Equals: 1976
English Gematria Equals: 600
Simple Gematria Equals: 100
Results : Hugh Hefner! <!-- s
With my screen-name:
Jewish Gematria Equals: 182
English Gematria Equals: 414
Simple Gematria Equals: 69
Results: Dragon, Lightbeam, Archangel, www , Leather, Rough, Shake a leg...
I swear by god, I had no idea! <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->
circus = True, Joseph, Egypt, Living, Sacrifice, Eighteen, Dead As A Dodo ( <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> ), Jackson 5 ( <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> ), Sony
Did Michael create this site??? <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o -->
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I´d love to tell you more, but my inner Mr. Hefner forces me to stay silent! <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s
TROLL <!-- s
If he didn't create it, I'm feeling 99.9% positive, he hijacked it. <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s
http://www.gematrix.org
I put the number 777 cameout with this
50
7