I've decided that I'm going to leave this forum and come back after I finished making this post. I would like to sincerely appreciate everybody who have enjoyed my insight, and though It may be an hour or two before I post again, I want you all to know that many of you own a special place in my heart. don't miss me too much, for it is me who makes the grass grow on a dreary day.
<br />The Michael Jackson Death Hox investogaors Forum has been my home away from home for what seems forever. I have met some very special people here and enjoyed the daily seeking of truth. But I made a promise to myself that once the trial was over that I would have to shut many things down and get back to me. Well, it seems the day draws near and though I am really ready for this trial to be over, I know that I will miss the comradery shared ith all of you. It’s become my familiar, my safe place. It’s given me hope when there was none. It’s made me smile when everthing around me felt chaotic and hopeless. Thank you guys from the bottom of my heart.<br /><br />Souza you are the best. Your creativity and continued dedication has made this forum the best hands down. I will miss it. So as I bid my farewell in advance because I do not like goodbyes, I want all of you to know that I was made a perfect believer because of you who held my hand and walked through it with me. I don’t know what the verdict will be in this case and it doesn’t really matter. We know the truth and that’s what sets us free and apart from everyone else. I only hope that one day when the world opens its eyes and can finally see what we see and have seen all along you will welcome me back to join you in shouting, singing “I TOLD YOU SO”.<br /><br />So as this is one of my last posts, Not THE last, but getting nearer to it, I just wnted to tell you all in advance how special you have been in my life and always will be. I know that as time goes by there will be cause along the way for me to explain to my grandchildren how I made it through these tough times, and believe me The MichaelJacksonDeathHoaxInvestigators will dominate that conversation, and it will be all for love.<br /><br />Dear Michael, where ever you are on this journey, always know that I love you more. Be safe and do you. You are the light of the world. Always was. Always will be.<br /><br /> bearhug<br />
<br /><br />[size=14pt]REMEMBER that there are always 2 SIDES of every STORY 8-)!!!!!![/size]<br /><br />[size=10pt]Hesouttamylife my friend ,I hope that what I'm going to tell you now,it's not goona be an offence for you.I'm HAPPY for you,that you have the power to DISSCONECT yourself from THIS ILLUSION!!!!<br />Yes it's been a WONDERFULL ADVENTURE,but unfortunately the time for the REAL WAKE UP will COME for EVERYONE OF US!!!!<br />During this HOAX,we all heard about :"WE SEE WHAT HE WANTS US TO SEE",nothing more.Well it's seems that most of us wanted DRAMA,but along the way,we forgot about COMEDY.Michael is a prankester and he loves COMEDY.I advise you to go back and watch EVEy awakening from THE ILLUSION(DRAMA) ,that V had prepared for her,then to come back and watch this video:[/size]<br /><br /><br />Jake Byrd: On the Scene Dr. Conrad Murray Trial<br />
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<br /><br />[size=10pt]After you will wake up,at first you will be shoked and angry,just like EVEy was,but after that YOU will have TO UNDERSTAND that THEY aka THE ARTISTs,with Michael LEADING THE WAY,had no other way but use LIES to TELL you THE TRUTH . It was never about who's RIGHT and who's WRONG,about who's BAD and who's GOOD, about who's BLACK or who's white ,about who's SKINNY or who's FAT,about or who's SHORT or who's TALL,and about who's BELIEVER or who's NON BELIEVER!!! Don't you understand now, why we have all this CONTRADICTIONs in this HOAX ????? It's a GAME,a LOOSING GAME!!This HOAX is about THE TRUTH=LOVE,and like Michael said "THE TRUTH will be MY SALVATION".I wrote this post with all the LOVE in my heart,because I'm tired of "this MANIPULATION" and I wanted to bring some "AWARNESS and HOPE"to people.Take care and I wish you LOVE.Diana.[/size]<br /><br /><br />Kenny Loggins feat Michael Jackson "Who's Right Who's Wrong" +Lyrics<br /><br /><br />Kenny Loggins feat Michael Jackson "Who's Right Who's Wrong"<br />Who's Right, Who's Wrong <br />I've grown tired of fighting<br />Whether you're right or wrong<br />Whether I'm weak or strong in your eyes<br />'Cause this is a lonely feeling<br />Watching you turn away<br />Why does it have to be this way?<br /><br />On and on tonight<br />You've made a point of being right<br />Making this a game instead of love<br />You should know<br />Where this goes.<br /><br />Someone's heart will surely be broken <br />Before too long<br />If we keep on playing this game<br />Of right or wrong<br /><br />[Chorus:]<br />Who's Right, Who's Wrong<br />When love is gone?<br />Who's right or wrong - false or true<br />Never used to matter to you.<br /><br />You're almost crying <br />Saying "I've gotta run"<br />Easier said than done<br />Tell me why<br />I want to know what you're hiding<br />Turn around and look at me<br />I've never been this hard to see before<br /><br />If we'd only come together<br />For a moment here tonight<br />You could hold me tight<br />And ease your troubled mind<br />You should know<br />Where this goes<br />Someone's heart will surely be broken<br />Before too long,<br />If we keep on playing this game<br />Of right or wrong.<br /><br />Right or wrong, lady<br />Right or wrong, baby<br />I'm right, you're wrong lady<br />You're right, I'm wrong, baby<br /><br />Talkin' about who's right or wrong<br />It never really matters<br />When your love is gone<br />Sayin' it out<br />This right is wrong<br />If all our lovin' is gone.<br />
<br />The Michael Jackson Death Hox investogaors Forum has been my home away from home for what seems forever. I have met some very special people here and enjoyed the daily seeking of truth. But I made a promise to myself that once the trial was over that I would have to shut many things down and get back to me. Well, it seems the day draws near and though I am really ready for this trial to be over, I know that I will miss the comradery shared ith all of you. It’s become my familiar, my safe place. It’s given me hope when there was none. It’s made me smile when everthing around me felt chaotic and hopeless. Thank you guys from the bottom of my heart.<br /><br />Souza you are the best. Your creativity and continued dedication has made this forum the best hands down. I will miss it. So as I bid my farewell in advance because I do not like goodbyes, I want all of you to know that I was made a perfect believer because of you who held my hand and walked through it with me. I don’t know what the verdict will be in this case and it doesn’t really matter. We know the truth and that’s what sets us free and apart from everyone else. I only hope that one day when the world opens its eyes and can finally see what we see and have seen all along you will welcome me back to join you in shouting, singing “I TOLD YOU SO”.<br /><br />So as this is one of my last posts, Not THE last, but getting nearer to it, I just wnted to tell you all in advance how special you have been in my life and always will be. I know that as time goes by there will be cause along the way for me to explain to my grandchildren how I made it through these tough times, and believe me The MichaelJacksonDeathHoaxInvestigators will dominate that conversation, and it will be all for love.<br /><br />Dear Michael, where ever you are on this journey, always know that I love you more. Be safe and do you. You are the light of the world. Always was. Always will be.<br /><br /> bearhug<br />
<br /><br />Awwww no. This post made me so so sad. We're a family here and when a member leaves, it hurts. I understand what you feel hesouttamylife and I respect your decision. But even the BAM is not the end. I wish you could bring this forum and hoax into your life and wouldn't feel to go back to your own life. But of course, you know the best for yourself. You will be missed a LOT by me and by many members. I'm just hoping to see you around again. I Love You my friend. I really do. And I'm wishing the best for you. <br /> bearhug
<br />I've decided that I'm going to leave this forum and come back after I finished making this post. I would like to sincerely appreciate everybody who have enjoyed my insight, and though It may be an hour or two before I post again, I want you all to know that many of you own a special place in my heart. don't miss me too much, for it is me who makes the grass grow on a dreary day. <br />
<br /><br /> lolol/<br /><br />Glad to see you're NOT leaving Mrbig. I Love You. bearhug
I don't know where to begin because I can't stop laughing at the video applehead posted! Thanks applehead...I feel so inappropriate...it's like laughing at a eulogy..........Ugg. That was the funniest thing I have seen in such a long time....thank you for the side-ache <br /><br />Now.....hesouttamylife........I totally understand making promises to yourself etc. You are the only one who knows what's right for you. This hoax has taken us to places we have never been before, shown us talent like we have never seen before and given us emotions beyond all reason. I have read your posts from the beginning and you were a catalyst to me for joining this forum. Your amazing insight, thoughts and kindness were everywhere. For that, I want to thank you! I know it's been a very long, uphill battle of blind faith. I believe Michael is alive and stronger than ever. I also believe he will come back.......that is part of why I stay here. There is no other place I'd rather be than among these dear friends on this forum when BAM happens...and it will. Even the folks I don't communicate with personally, I feel a strong sense of commitment to see it through with them. We have come a long way.......together. For whatever reason, I decided to become a part of something larger than myself. To such a degree that even if the walls fall down around me, I will stand here faithfully knowing The Truth....ever thankful, ever blessed by the experience of knowing great people like you. I may never know or meet Michael...but I have met you, here in hoaxland......I am grateful for that. <br />The outcome of the trial has no bearing on the faith of my mind and heart. It was all planned, I don't stress about it, I just live in the moment and enjoy it....all of it. My friend...I wish you all the best.......you do what's right for you. However, please know someone will be wishing upon a star for you. LOVE U<br /><br />Very Special Blessings to All........
@hesoutamylife. Know that you will be so missed. It is like a part of our body is being amputated with you going. We have been together in this for so long and we've seen many leave in the past, but you have held a very special place in my heart and I am feeling your departure more than ever. I'm being selfish now and asking you to please stay. We are all apart of each other. I wish you the best but secretly I hope you find yourself drawn back to us. I am being selfish because I love you.<br />@applehead....my friend.. that Jake Byrd was the funniest thing I have ever seen. I [size=18pt]LOVED[/size]it. Laughing so much I was crying. The pros and conc...properfol and conrad. Thankyou thankyou thankyou.<br />@Bigshot. I'm glad you are joking my friend. My heart would break otherwise.
damn. i really regret coming into this thread... feel flat as and shouldnt have read it. doesnt change my mind on knowing mj is alive. if he never bams i am satisfied that he never died on 25.06.09 and that he is well... but feel flat and sad for everyone who is loosing faith... its more than saying goodbye to friends on a forum, it more than likely means many saying goodbye are likely to start greiveing for mj, and that hurts.... been thru that in 09. so i feel for those who are saying goodbye... <br /><br />i personally wont be coming in this thread again!!!!! on the same token respect that some people need to let go and say goodbye if this is damaging to them emotionally. so respect certain peoples need to say good bye.<br /><br /><br />all the best in life for all those who are moving on. best wishes...<br /><br />just make a promise to yourself about one thing, even if you now believe mj is dead.... promise yourself you will always look at things differently. esp things from media... keep your eyes open... and dont revert back to being a consumer without questioning what you see and hear. mj would want that for you at the very least... if thats all that you take away from DH then it was a valuable lesson learned...<br /><br />all the best x
Please no hesouttamylife, I agree with MJFAN, your one of the people who have been here from the beginning and your posts are always great, I know I only signed up in 2010, but I've been watching this site from 2009, and enjoyed so many of the posts by forum members and to see people leave is sad, I guess this is like when MJ had to leave, although the Jackson Family knew he was still alive or that he would come back I'm sure they are still heartbroken.<br /><br />@BigShot, DAAAYYYUUUMM I thought you were leaving...until you I saw that you were joking...lol...na jk, love ya.
My days as a believer came to an end on July 7, 2011 when MJ didn't return as everyone expected him to. I was pissed, so I gave up. I haven't been coming to this forum ever since then, - okay, I did for the next few days after July 7, actually I did for the entire month every now and then, but I didn't see any topics with more clues or such, it was like nothing had happened so as I said, I gave up.<br /><br />Regardless of all the odd stuff happening, my days as a beLIEver are done.<br /><br />R.I.P Angranity the Believer (June 25, 2009 - July 7, 2011)
I don't want this to sound disrspectful in the slightest and it's not in my intention to be a troll, rude, or anything negative. But this thead just seems to scream "Try to make the believers lose faith or try to convince the believers to lose faith."<br /><br />After a long two year why give up now? Why lose faith? Sure, there are days when I feel like giving up, but if Michael didn't quit during 1993 and 2005 why should I? <br /><br />For those who stopped believer after July of this year. What did you expect? I admit I was looking for something to happen. However, I was ready to accept that maybe July wasn't going to be BAMSDAY. The fact that some people have their hearts, minds, and souls set on dates will obviously be disappointed. Michael said he would comeback in HIS OWN TIME. So, how about we let him do that?
The day has come for me to say goodbye to you all... the autopsy photo, the trial and now the verdict have finally made me accept that Michael is really gone. I am not sad about this. I am happy about this. Not because Michael is gone and there is no way that he will ever return again but that I realise that I have been in denial for more than 2 years. The autopsy photo of Michael's dead naked body and the verdict have given me closure and I'm glad that it is over. <br /><br />Of course there are things that don't add up - but aren't there ALWAYS things that don't add up? Compare the death of Lincoln to Kennedy (http://www.orwelltoday.com/jfkcoincidences.shtml). Those coincidences are incredible. <br /><br />Does that mean that Lincoln's death was a hoax? No.<br />Does that mean that Kennedy's death was a hoax? No.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound disrespectful to any of you but come on guys... Michael is dead. You can hold on to those very small coincidences, but look at his crying mother during interviews... do you really, and honestly, believe that she is acting? Look at his children who go to Buckley and have access to Twitter and Facebook and YouTube... do you really, and honestly, believe that they could keep their mouths shut about their father being alive? <br /><br />Again, no disrespect to any of you because I have been in denial as well. But please guys.... accept that Michael is gone and move on with your life. It's for the best.<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />The day has come for me to say goodbye to you all... the autopsy photo, the trial and now the verdict have finally made me accept that Michael is really gone. I am not sad about this. I am happy about this. Not because Michael is gone and there is no way that he will ever return again but that I realise that I have been in denial for more than 2 years. The autopsy photo of Michael's dead naked body and the verdict have given me closure and I'm glad that it is over. <br /><br />Of course there are things that don't add up - but aren't there ALWAYS things that don't add up? Compare the death of Lincoln to Kennedy (http://www.orwelltoday.com/jfkcoincidences.shtml). Those coincidences are incredible. <br /><br />Does that mean that Lincoln's death was a hoax? No.<br />Does that mean that Kennedy's death was a hoax? No.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound disrespectful to any of you but come on guys... Michael is dead. You can hold on to those very small coincidences, but look at his crying mother during interviews... do you really, and honestly, believe that she is acting? Look at his children who go to Buckley and have access to Twitter and Facebook and YouTube... do you really, and honestly, believe that they could keep their mouths shut about their father being alive? <br /><br />Again, no disrespect to any of you because I have been in denial as well. But please guys.... accept that Michael is gone and move on with your life. It's for the best.<br />
<br /><br />Oh come on, don't be like that. <br /><br />"Everything is an Illusionist, <br />Everything is an Illusion, <br />Watch the movie 'The Illusionist' and read between the lines, everybody, please do." <br /><br />Could I say anymore?
<br />The day has come for me to say goodbye to you all... the autopsy photo, the trial and now the verdict have finally made me accept that Michael is really gone. I am not sad about this. I am happy about this. Not because Michael is gone and there is no way that he will ever return again but that I realise that I have been in denial for more than 2 years. The autopsy photo of Michael's dead naked body and the verdict have given me closure and I'm glad that it is over. <br /><br />Of course there are things that don't add up - but aren't there ALWAYS things that don't add up? Compare the death of Lincoln to Kennedy (http://www.orwelltoday.com/jfkcoincidences.shtml). Those coincidences are incredible. <br /><br />Does that mean that Lincoln's death was a hoax? No.<br />Does that mean that Kennedy's death was a hoax? No.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound disrespectful to any of you but come on guys... Michael is dead. You can hold on to those very small coincidences, but look at his crying mother during interviews... do you really, and honestly, believe that she is acting? Look at his children who go to Buckley and have access to Twitter and Facebook and YouTube... do you really, and honestly, believe that they could keep their mouths shut about their father being alive? <br /><br />Again, no disrespect to any of you because I have been in denial as well. But please guys.... accept that Michael is gone and move on with your life. It's for the best.<br />
<br /><br />Wait, why are you assuming that everyone is in Denial just because they believe Michael is alive? If someone believes strongly about something and has their own opinion on it doesn't mean they're in denial. I think this is a little too much negativity, telling people to "Accept that Michael is gone" and "Move on with our lives" will irritate people. It's great that you've come to terms with what you believe, good for you! but spreading negativity like that isn't exactly the best idea, especially once you've put it that way.
One of the reasons I disagree with the creation of this thread is it promotes the idea of spreading negativity. I realize there are people with a difference of opinion, however, this site is looking into the possibility that Michael hoaxed his death. This isn't s site that is promoting that he died or anything, so why create a thread like this? <br /><br />I admit when the verdict was announced I thought "Maybe he is dead". But I watched another video on Youtube about the verdict and man, if people lose faith already, then I feel sorry for them because if anything they're TELLING us he's alive. <br /><br />
<br />One of the reasons I disagree with the creation of this thread is it promotes the idea of spreading negativity. I realize there are people with a difference of opinion, however, this site is looking into the possibility that Michael hoaxed his death. This isn't s site that is promoting that he died or anything, so why create a thread like this? <br /><br />I admit when the verdict was announced I thought "Maybe he is dead". But I watched another video on Youtube about the verdict and man, if people lose faith already, then I feel sorry for them because if anything they're TELLING us he's alive.<br />
<br /><br />I think the thread is pretty necassary, it's just those people who seem to like spreading the negativity. <br />We all have common sense, right? Well, people shouldn't mention controversial things when they leave, they can explain why they've chosen to leave. To tell people to "Accept the truth" about Michael being dead just pushes the limit to what they can post on here. I think this Thread needs a set of rules to go with it, probably telling people NOT to make an attempt to remove others' faith. <br />
You're going to let go after 2 long years over that photo...? Please go read the autopsy photo thread. That photo is not legit, it's a photo-shopped, low quality, weird angled excuse for an autopsy photo. And the IV is in his arm... why? He was pronounced dead?<br /><br />"I realized I was in denial for 2 years".... uh.... I'm not in denial about anything relating to this hoax. You can't be "in denial" when there's so much evidence, clues, slip-ups, etc. pointing to Michael being alive. In the mid-early stages of the hoax, I tried to convince myself Michael was dead. & I did that for about a month, then I came right back to the hoax because that's when I truly was being "in denial". And It's not just that Michael's death doesn't "add up" it's the immense amount of clues and slip-ups, and "coincidences" with numerology. Anyway, I hope you'll stay, we don't want to lose a soldier ):<br /><br />& yes, I like this thread because it's a way for people to announce that they're leaving and it gives us a chance to say goodbye, instead of having 30 different threads, or having people that just stop coming on the forum. But like Raikiramari said, when people leave and say they're controversial reasons, especially telling all of us that we're in denial and need to accept his death, that's when the negativity starts.
<br />You're going to let go after 2 long years over that photo...? Please go read the autopsy photo thread. That photo is not legit, it's a photo-shopped, low quality, weird angled excuse for an autopsy photo. And the IV is in his arm... why? He was pronounced dead?<br /><br />"I realized I was in denial for 2 years".... uh.... I'm not in denial about anything relating to this hoax. You can't be "in denial" when there's so much evidence, clues, slip-ups, etc. pointing to Michael being alive. In the mid-early stages of the hoax, I tried to convince myself Michael was dead. & I did that for about a month, then I came right back to the hoax because that's when I truly was being "in denial". And It's not just that Michael's death doesn't "add up" it's the immense amount of clues and slip-ups, and "coincidences" with numerology. Anyway, I hope you'll stay, we don't want to lose a soldier ):<br /><br />& yes, I like this thread because it's a way for people to announce that they're leaving and it gives us a chance to say goodbye, instead of having 30 different threads, or having people that just stop coming on the forum. But like Raikiramari said, when people leave and say they're controversial reasons, especially telling all of us that we're in denial and need to accept his death, that's when the negativity starts.<br />
<br /><br />I think you just about summed it all up;however you left out one crucial thing. <br /><br />We sat through and watched the Media tell us that Michael Jackson had died, June 25th 2009. <br />We watched this man's funeral. <br />We saw his Memorial, all of his family Members and Children together. <br /><br />Throughout all of this, not ONCE has there been a hesitation to disregard our faith. And now, because of two low quality images amongst tons of those supposedly taken of Michael Jackson and a Verdict coming out as "Guilty" people have stopped beLIEving. Who's really in denial? What evidence is there really for Michael's death other than what the Media has said? That's what I'd like to know. <br /><br />If Michael Joe Jackson was really dead, don't you think his Family would recognize his body? don't you think that his Mother would've wanted to see her CHILD for the last time? What about the Death Certificate? Latoya Jackson signed it because NOBODY.ELSE.WOULD, so why is that? Of course, these are all rhetorical questions. They don't need an answer, because you can't answer them. <br /><br />The sad truth is that none of us know who 'Michael Jackson' was, all we saw from him was what the Media portrayed of him. All we know is that Michael Jackson is a kind man, who produced music, danced and did so much for the world. For all we know, Michael is a manipulator an Illusionist. <br /><br />
to those of you who have decided to leave the hoax. i know that you want your life back. i get that , but i know and you know that this man/ child has captured a piece of your heart. so i am asking you to consider if you are going to walk on that side of the issue do it actively. please continue to fight for the truth regarding what has happened to and what possibly was done to michael throughout his life. if you do that then perhaps the last over two years of your life will not be spent in vain. no matter what is the final truth there are so many things with this situation that are out of whack .
Come on guys, we are loosing a member here. She was trying to express herself, how she is feeling. I think she is thinking she is helping. Somethymes I just don't get it. What happened to we will miss you, it's ok we understand? Somethymes people just need to leave.....We need to look from the outside in and the inside out. Breath and understand someones feelings. Somethymes, manythymes we take things wrong or somethymes people say things in a way where they don't come out right. Please remember why we are here. AThousandTimes I will miss you and I understand you. We will be here if you ever decide to come back to us. Take care. LOVE TO ALL!!!
Bye to the ones leaving. I am happy for them that they found clousure.<br /><br />We could be in denial, of course, but we could also be on the right track. <br />Reading if michael is still alive does not interfere in my daily life and my life go on as usual. Just wanted to make that clear for those who care so much for my private life Thanks for the concern...all Ok in this side <br /><br />Didn´t Jermaine said something like -"Michael is now with us" after the veridict?<br /><br />Something is still not fitting here. Having Murray convicted as guilty (for negligence as a Doctor) does not mean that he killed Michael. On the other hand, i don´t see Michael as the man who would harm himself even being desperate for sleep. He has kids to take care of and, as he said, he needed stability, to settle down.<br />To me he is still alive and no, I don´t need people supporting my theories or my "on denial mood". <br />I suspected he could be alive since the day I saw his ambo pic on Yahoo news.
<br />to those of you who have decided to leave the hoax. i know that you want your life back. i get that , but i know and you know that this man/ child has captured a piece of your heart. so i am asking you to consider if you are going to walk on that side of the issue do it actively. please continue to fight for the truth regarding what has happened to and what possibly was done to michael throughout his life. if you do that then perhaps the last over two years of your life will not be spent in vain. no matter what is the final truth there are so many things with this situation that are out of whack .<br />
<br />Come on guys, we are loosing a member here. She was trying to express herself, how she is feeling. I think she is thinking she is helping. Somethymes I just don't get it. What happened to we will miss you, it's ok we understand? Somethymes people just need to leave.....We need to look from the outside in and the inside out. Breath and understand someones feelings. Somethymes, manythymes we take things wrong or somethymes people say things in a way where they don't come out right. Please remember why we are here. AThousandTimes I will miss you and I understand you. We will be here if you ever decide to come back to us. Take care. LOVE TO ALL!!! <br />
<br /><br />I don't think that telling everyone that they are in Denial is the greatest way to put it, do you?
No I don't either, but did you ever say something and then go whoops. Or as I said, maybe she feels she is helping. I know exactly what you are saying but I still think we should understand what she was trying to say. We are all here out of love......
<br />No I don't either, but did you ever say something and then go whoops. Or as I said, maybe she feels she is helping. I know exactly what you are saying but I still think we should understand what she was trying to say. We are all here out of love......<br />
<br /><br />I think she should've put it more subtly, y'know that she can edit her posts, don't you?
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