Coming from the Jacksons? Yes of course. The media can not make up his death like that. But the media reports, without questioning, like the mostly do. Media a victim? I don't think so.
i also want to point out that yes the jacksons told the media this but as journalist they should have checked the facts about this situation instead of running with it. For starters who is michael joseph jackson? mike has been in the industry for how long? and they dont even know his name. Its the same with the allegations, they should check facts before reporting things. so imo its the medias fault for running with false storys and pictures ect. and if someone was doing there job the hoax would not have gone far at all because it would have stopped with the announcement made but jermaine, not a doctor and his name.
But we-his staunch fans do not know his name!! and we still havn't reached a conclusion, there has been pages and pages of post on if his middle name was Joe or Joseph! I cannot imagine the media disputing that Michael was not dead when his own Brother announced it, his Mother, Father and Sisters and other Brothers spoke of it and they held a memorial and funeral and you expect them to believe that Michael is alive? They have been lied to, as the world has-as we have! They are journalists, not the FBI!
But we-his staunch fans do not know his name!! and we still havn't reached a conclusion, there has been pages and pages of post on if his middle name was Joe or Joseph! I cannot imagine the media disputing that Michael was not dead when his own Brother announced it, his Mother, Father and Sisters and other Brothers spoke of it and they held a memorial and funeral and you expect them to believe that Michael is alive? They have been lied to, as the world has-as we have! They are journalists, not the FBI!
umm i always thought his name was michael joe, i didnt think other wise until he died. and im sure they pulled his court doc about the allegation, when he died which clearly state JOE and at that point they should have known that that was his true name. They also could have went thru old footage and interview also to put something togethe in memorial, and so what his family annouced it its does not take an fbi agent to realize that jermaine should not have done the annoucement and that no dr. has spoke out. and your rite they held all those things but yet you, a regular person with no media connection, thought something was off and thats why your here rite? no body,no autopsy,no burial for 3months, no arrest..come on now, even if they at first thought he was dead by now they should know something isnt rite.
and as far as us being lied to...we have been lied to about much bigger things like hurricane katrina, 9/11 ect no need to take this personal <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
I already get it before this video's!
I teached my children about it..2 are believers now,and my son is comming arround after i showed him the Murrey court video..He was like,this is really strange!
But other people..they have told me to grow up..that they tought i was smarter than that..i was to old to believe in fairy tales..and some told me i was grazy!
So it is really hard sometimes..some people really dont want to see..even wen you show them all the weird things that are going on???
If Michael wil show up again they wil know i was right about it..If not..I wil go on in history as the grazy person for my family and friends <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> (but i tried <!-- s --><!-- s --> )
Mattie
Sorry for my English.
THE SAME HERE! MY DAUGHTER IS TELLING TO THE ALL WORLD THAT I BELIEVE THAT MJ IS ALIVE, SHE HAVE 8... THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ME MAYBE THINK THAT I'M CRAZY OR SOMETHING... NO NEED TO MENTION WHAT MY FRIENDS ARE THINKING...
I know how you feel my Family thinks I've lost my mine I try to get them to watch the youtube videos but the stll say I'm crazy and that Michael is dead and let it go and get on with my life but I can't it feels like a higher powers got a hold of me and I can't give up hope his is not still with us ...i was a Michael fan the early years 80's and 90's then I lost touch of his music ..so when they said he died it was like something came over me and I feel in love with him all over again , but different this time I can't stop thinking about him and I feel something connected to him like he knows we're here for him like he can feel our love , almost like spirital and i'VE REALLY NEVER BEEN SPIRTIAL !So this is kinda weard to me why I can't shake Him out of my mine .. can anyone out there explane why I feel so stongely about Him and proving He is still alive becouse I sures the Hell can't , Maybe I am lossing my mine ???
Oh brother. I playing the violin for you. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
I'm very aware that the world sucks and tend to bring down the people who try to make the world a better place. But that does not mean that Michael hoaxed his death for that purpose. You don't really have to hoax your death to understand that truth. Nor do you have to hoax your death to get others to understand or to change. The only way the world can truly change, is when people stop FUCKING with other people because they have something they want. Either way, HOAXING YOUR DEATH does NOTHING to change any of this, even if you are Michael Jackson. <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: -->
I also agree with BCorn, hoaxing your death cannot change the world, no matter who you are. You either have goodness, love and compassion in your heart or you have not, unfortunately the majority of the rich nations have not as Michael learned this when the leeches and parasites took advantage. If you are a mean spirited person then nothing or nobody ever will change that.
First of all i wanna ask you BCorn whats so funny about my post? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
I totally agree with misha86
i disagree...faking his death brung attention to mike..if he had not faked his death alot of the people on this site would not be here there fore would not get the message, it also lets people see mike in a postive form again and people are more willing to listen to the message, where as alot of people may not have listen to him last year at this same time
I was one of these persons who believed in the words the media told about Michael, i still feel ashamed of it that i ever had these thoughts about him. <!-- s --><!-- s --> after Michael "died" I had a bad vibe about it...i felt that something is not right ... I cant explain it and im glad that im now able to see what goes on....
@Souza: You take the words right out of my mouth.... i love your posts!
yes i have the same as you. i also warn people and tell them all about what is going on, but they only hear it if they want to.. they often seem to be listening, but they don't hear what i say, if you understand what i mean...
it's indeed an illusion that we live in freedom and it's so bad that most of the people really think that they live in freedom, that they make there own choises and not being manipulated!
they so strongly believe, that how they see things, is the truth, i can't get trough to them...
for the last moths i've seen by myself, how it works.. i've been from thinking the one thing and the second day the other.
so i realized that i thought i was pretty aware of manipulation, but figured out, that i really have to look out for it, because before i know, i'm being made into another believe again. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
doubles/no doubles
twin/no twin
and so on....
i also have jumped from one conclusion to the other.. and it's an interesting progress to see for me.
and i thought i was aware of how it works and still it happens with me, if i don't look out. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> so for me it's also an interesting wake up call.
i now found some kind of piece with this whole situation.
whatever Michaels plan is, i have full trust in him, that he has planned it all out very well!
i get the message..
it's all for love and together we can make that change!
I know what you mean! Same here.....In the last 6 months i really thought (i still do sometimes lol) that im going to lose my mind....
All these theories, the twins the doubles etc...I was online every day to find out the truth ....i had a lack of sleep ,
i was more online then out of my house...i just wanted to give up and if you realise how difficult it is to convince people ... it still happens
to me...i´m exhausted ....but then again i remember MJ´s words Keep the faith... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Sometimes im wondering if all the people on here followed Thisisalsoit ?? And if they really watched all these videos ...for example The Arrivals ??? Endgame ??
I know how you feel my Family thinks I've lost my mine I try to get them to watch the youtube videos but the stll say I'm crazy and that Michael is dead and let it go and get on with my life but I can't it feels like a higher powers got a hold of me and I can't give up hope his is not still with us ...i was a Michael fan the early years 80's and 90's then I lost touch of his music ..so when they said he died it was like something came over me and I feel in love with him all over again , but different this time I can't stop thinking about him and I feel something connected to him like he knows we're here for him like he can feel our love , almost like spirital and i'VE REALLY NEVER BEEN SPIRTIAL !So this is kinda weard to me why I can't shake Him out of my mine .. can anyone out there explane why I feel so stongely about Him and proving He is still alive becouse I sures the Hell can't , Maybe I am lossing my mine ???
About the spiritual.... EVERYBODY is spiritual! We are all spiritual beings!!! Two Words : Spiritual Awakening...Google it <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Michael is giving us all a new perspective . We are stepping back, looking at the big picture, thinking outside the box, using parts of our minds that we didn't know existed, questioning what has never been questioned before, opening our eyes to things we were blind to in the past. He is extremely intelligent, a genius, having great power of mind, and we can probably say his plan has been developing for a long period of time. He is a perfectionist and he has taken all issues into consideration. We have only touched the tip of the iceberg in learning what his extraordinary project is designed to accomplish. Thank you Michael , not only for your wake up call, but for your agape love.
I already get it before this video's!
I teached my children about it..2 are believers now,and my son is comming arround after i showed him the Murrey court video..He was like,this is really strange!
But other people..they have told me to grow up..that they tought i was smarter than that..i was to old to believe in fairy tales..and some told me i was grazy!
So it is really hard sometimes..some people really dont want to see..even wen you show them all the weird things that are going on???
If Michael wil show up again they wil know i was right about it..If not..I wil go on in history as the grazy person for my family and friends <!-- s:ugeek: -->:ugeek:<!-- s:ugeek: --> (but i tried <!-- s --><!-- s --> )
Mattie
Sorry for my English.
THE SAME HERE! MY DAUGHTER IS TELLING TO THE ALL WORLD THAT I BELIEVE THAT MJ IS ALIVE, SHE HAVE 8... THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ME MAYBE THINK THAT I'M CRAZY OR SOMETHING... NO NEED TO MENTION WHAT MY FRIENDS ARE THINKING...
I know how you feel my Family thinks I've lost my mine I try to get them to watch the youtube videos but the stll say I'm crazy and that Michael is dead and let it go and get on with my life but I can't it feels like a higher powers got a hold of me and I can't give up hope his is not still with us ...i was a Michael fan the early years 80's and 90's then I lost touch of his music ..so when they said he died it was like something came over me and I feel in love with him all over again , but different this time I can't stop thinking about him and I feel something connected to him like he knows we're here for him like he can feel our love , almost like spirital and i'VE REALLY NEVER BEEN SPIRTIAL !So this is kinda weard to me why I can't shake Him out of my mine .. can anyone out there explane why I feel so stongely about Him and proving He is still alive becouse I sures the Hell can't , Maybe I am lossing my mine ???
My experience has been similar. Hugs.
I guess that we all are now into an spiral mood to find out what happened to Michael. If he is dead, justice. If he is alive, to see him coming out and explaining his reasons.
I appreciate what you say here. I've been taking this for granted.
"what a rebuke to the professional world of investigators and media—who can’t even figure out that MJ is alive, much less the reason for the hoax and his message to the world, etc."
It's quite astounding, considering the enormity of the attention given to his "death". Then again, one can't expect much from imaginations of those who are closed-minded, self-serving & ego-driven.
I found this a curious photo as a choice for a death memorial.
While the concept of reaching out, holding your neighbors hand and telling them you care for them is a nice gesture; let's face it, it's a big world out there and things are not that simple unfortunately. There are extremists that do not like our lifestyle, our religion, or our freedom and they are dead set to get everyone marching to their drum.
What's the difference between Michael Jackson and all his haters? Michael Jackson sold 750 million albums worldwide, has the worldwide highest selling album, and got rich enough to build his own theme park. None of his haters did. Star this if you agree with me!
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Both videos are removed ...............bugga. Cant watch them. <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( --> <!-- s:( -->:(<!-- s:( -->
I have to upload them again.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I don't believe MJ owes us anything. He's done plenty for the world, more than he ever had to (he could have retired at age 20 after all) and he's been through more CRAP in his life than most people can even begin to comprehend. Try dealing with several hundred depositions and lawsuits, and having your genitals photographed and probed by police, and dealing with child molestation accusations in front of the entire world, and having your property vandalized, and see how you feel then... So what if we've been lied to? If it's for a good cause, or even just to save Michael's life (this is a man who received death threats!) then I'm all for it! My own sadness does NOT come before Michael's life or that of his children, or the vilification and heartbreak MJ endured over the years.
And f*** the media. They deserve a lesson.
Besides, we can choose our beliefs and our actions. The media can choose to say "MJ has been reported dead" instead of "MJ is dead"... They, and we, have a CHOICE. We aren't victims as long as we can think for ourselves, and we should take responsibility instead of blaming everyone and their grandma.
I am not screaming, it's just that some people overlooked my post:
The YouTube acoount of MJDHI was suspended, so I will have to upload the videos again. I will notify you when they're up again. But it's good to see the topic is up again.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I couldn't watch the vids either when I clicked on the ones Souza embedded in the thread. But I went on youtube and typed "michael jackson wake up call" and there they were! When I clicked on the ones in this thread, it said something about copyright infringement or something...but if you just search youtube, they work just fine.
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this is what should be done
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and as far as us being lied to...we have been lied to about much bigger things like hurricane katrina, 9/11 ect no need to take this personal <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
I know how you feel my Family thinks I've lost my mine I try to get them to watch the youtube videos but the stll say I'm crazy and that Michael is dead and let it go and get on with my life but I can't it feels like a higher powers got a hold of me and I can't give up hope his is not still with us ...i was a Michael fan the early years 80's and 90's then I lost touch of his music ..so when they said he died it was like something came over me and I feel in love with him all over again , but different this time I can't stop thinking about him and I feel something connected to him like he knows we're here for him like he can feel our love , almost like spirital and i'VE REALLY NEVER BEEN SPIRTIAL !So this is kinda weard to me why I can't shake Him out of my mine .. can anyone out there explane why I feel so stongely about Him and proving He is still alive becouse I sures the Hell can't , Maybe I am lossing my mine ???
First of all i wanna ask you BCorn whats so funny about my post? <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
I totally agree with misha86
I was one of these persons who believed in the words the media told about Michael, i still feel ashamed of it that i ever had these thoughts about him. <!-- s
@Souza: You take the words right out of my mouth.... i love your posts!
I know what you mean! Same here.....In the last 6 months i really thought (i still do sometimes lol) that im going to lose my mind....
All these theories, the twins the doubles etc...I was online every day to find out the truth ....i had a lack of sleep ,
i was more online then out of my house...i just wanted to give up and if you realise how difficult it is to convince people ... it still happens
to me...i´m exhausted ....but then again i remember MJ´s words Keep the faith... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Sometimes im wondering if all the people on here followed Thisisalsoit ?? And if they really watched all these videos ...for example The Arrivals ??? Endgame ??
.....
About the spiritual.... EVERYBODY is spiritual! We are all spiritual beings!!! Two Words : Spiritual Awakening...Google it <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
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My experience has been similar. Hugs.
I guess that we all are now into an spiral mood to find out what happened to Michael. If he is dead, justice. If he is alive, to see him coming out and explaining his reasons.
"what a rebuke to the professional world of investigators and media—who can’t even figure out that MJ is alive, much less the reason for the hoax and his message to the world, etc."
It's quite astounding, considering the enormity of the attention given to his "death". Then again, one can't expect much from imaginations of those who are closed-minded, self-serving & ego-driven.
I found this a curious photo as a choice for a death memorial.
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."I have to upload them again.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."Both videos dont work for me (Im in UK) <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
I don't believe MJ owes us anything. He's done plenty for the world, more than he ever had to (he could have retired at age 20 after all) and he's been through more CRAP in his life than most people can even begin to comprehend. Try dealing with several hundred depositions and lawsuits, and having your genitals photographed and probed by police, and dealing with child molestation accusations in front of the entire world, and having your property vandalized, and see how you feel then... So what if we've been lied to? If it's for a good cause, or even just to save Michael's life (this is a man who received death threats!) then I'm all for it! My own sadness does NOT come before Michael's life or that of his children, or the vilification and heartbreak MJ endured over the years.
And f*** the media. They deserve a lesson.
Besides, we can choose our beliefs and our actions. The media can choose to say "MJ has been reported dead" instead of "MJ is dead"... They, and we, have a CHOICE. We aren't victims as long as we can think for ourselves, and we should take responsibility instead of blaming everyone and their grandma.
it doesn't work for me either, i'm in europe
I am not screaming, it's just that some people overlooked my post:
The YouTube acoount of MJDHI was suspended, so I will have to upload the videos again. I will notify you when they're up again. But it's good to see the topic is up again.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."Great vids by the way!!!
With L.O.V.E. always.