<br /><br />I agree except hell is a misinterpretation/mistranslation of the Bible, mostly by the church to exercise control over the masses. There are many excellent Bible studies on this online. Hell is the grave.<br /><br />
<br /><br />Yes and no. Certain descriptions are interpolations (such as Satan being a Satyr or the seven levels of hell as described by dante) but it's not simply "the grave". <br />
Oh my! Michael the Antichrist !? Jesus!<br />This is one of the rare theories that seems so absurd to me.<br /><br />If I were to look for an Anti-Christ brought by the Illuminati, I would certainly look towards the "British corner" if you know what I mean <br /><br />The Biblical/religious references related to Michael, Elvis and this whole PROJECT, are very obvious!<br />I found out many religious and historic links that connect Michael and Elvis to the Biblical message/story.<br /><br />I will try in the approximate future... to make some photo-montages with what I could find... <br />It's hard... It's the most sensitive subject, the most difficult to approach, especially because it goes so deep!! oh my! this is the deepest rabbit hole of the hoax! the religious one!<br /><br />With Elvis and Michael ... both very religious sensitive persons... with their thirst for knowledge of all kind! history and religions from all corners of the world... hmmm... I feel so small, so little, so uneducated to even try and discuss this as it should be discussed!!<br /><br />I don't know to what extent and in what way has the hoax changed people [I'm sure it did], but for me, the religious aspect was the most mind-blowing and revealing and instructive than anything else I discovered since MJ disappeared!<br /><br />As i said... I will try to ... at least show what i found out... but I feel that i need more research into this... it's overwhelming to me! and I have this feeling that... more will be revealed and explained on this religious aspect, after the actual BAM! I just hope I'll be prepared enough until then!<br /><br />I started searching having their names in mind! and OMG!! <br />Michael, Joseph, Jack-son, Elvis [Allwise/Elwin], Presley [Priest-ly], Aaron and Jesse ! and DIANA - the goddess of the Moon - the Moon they both sang/talked/danced so much!! Elvis had about 6-7 songs related to the Moon, Michael moon-walked-danced, made the film Moonwalker and sang "Scared of the Moon"....<br /><br />oh my! it just makes you wonder who they really are !!!<br /><br />and I stop here! for now...<br /><br />
SimPattyK thank you for your message. I would be so happy to see your pictures and research. I've been thinking about this for about a year and a half now !!!!!! I've been reading and finding a variety of information but am still confused. Could you help me understand how the moon is connected to this ? Is MJ wearing a blue moon on his eye in that new photo with the black jacket and the circles ? And did you see the video with Pearl Jr. with B. Howard. B. Howard said his goal was to have a performance on the MOON !!!!!!! So I think you are right. He has something to say about the moon. Will the moon also be lined up with all the planets on December 21, 2012 ? I will always love MJ no matter what happens. I am just confused. /overreacting/ <br />I read about all sorts of things and I am going around in circles. Everything from Greek Myths, Egyptians, Angels, Extraterrestrials,religions, astrology, 2012 theories, ascension, DNA Repair, meditation, Reptilians and etc. etc. Please Help if you can. Thank you so much !!!!! Love !!!!!! /pull hair/
<br />SimPattyK thank you for your message. I would be so happy to see your pictures and research. [...] Please Help if you can. Thank you so much !!!!! Love !!!!!! /pull hair/
I will do my best... but I am sure I am not the best recommended person to enlighten people too much on this subject.<br /><br />Regarding the MOON... I have some ideas...<br />- maybe they were trying to warn people about a fake MOON landing? this is a controversial debate: was the '69 MOONlanding true or a hoax?<br />- maybe they were hinting at the moon ..the planets...the alignment of planets that Michael also speaks about in "we are here to change the world" - Captain EO - which also makes me think of December 21st 2012<br />- In a more poetic and romantic perspective (ELvis & Mj ), the moon is "the light of the world" during night-time <br />- Both Michael and ELvis have an androgyne side of them.... they are so beautiful , they almost look like angels... sometimes in a masculine sense, sometimes in a feminine sense. They both had SUN-symbolism in their music, videos, etc... and they both connected to the MOON too! So here we have the masculine (SUN) and the feminine (Moon) together ! This is ANGELIC !! and magnetizing at the same time! which explains the immense attraction they had to so many millions of people around the world!<br /><br />and there are some more... but as I said..I'll take my time for this....
the 69 moon landing a hoax?<br />My grandmother was a simple woman with not too much school and 30 years ago she was convinced there was a hoax and they never landed on the moon errrr.<br />We were all laughing of her about this. But who knows?!<br /><br />Both Michael and ELvis have an androgyne side of them.... ? I would say Michael really had it but Elvis - IDK, not very much, well maybe a little. <br /><br />But Michael definetly had it, and it is part of his mystery. Many people call him an angel walking on earth.
I also wondered what the moon means; there is obviously a connection. Related to MJ I always thought the moon is the HOAX, the sleep, the time being away, the disappearance. Michael has his eyes closed in the blue moon picture, he is away, the moon is up. <br /><br />And yes, androgyne! Angelic! Let me tell you this much, guys! I have tears in my eyes reading your comments here because this is what I always felt about Michael! It's almost surreal how people all over the world are able to FEEL this about a person they have never acually met, but LOVED, UNDERSTOOD and FELT as being PART OF THEIR SOUL! At least, that's how I feel! <br /><br />God bless you! I LOVE you!
<br />the 69 moon landing a hoax? My grandmother was a simple woman with not too much school and 30 years ago she was convinced there was a hoax and they never landed on the moon errrr.<br />We were all laughing of her about this. But who knows?![...]
I don't detain the absolute truth, but I read, listened and heard some really intriguing facts about the '69 moon landing as being a hoax! Nothing but a studio-movie! There are photographers and specialists who found hard proof that it never happened, by just analyzing the lights, the shadows and the flaws in the films and photos taken at that moment. It really looks like it was all filmed in a studio.<br />Now I don't know which side of this debate to fully believe, but I think your grand-mother is a very clever woman, if only because she dared to doubt the "official story" told by the media at that time! <br /><br /><br /><br />@Dontwalkaway, GinaFelicia & @GrossoModo: thank you all so much for your comments!<br />If you hadn't commented the way you did, maybe I wouldn't have managed to get out so openly off my chest what you will read below. As I already said ^^ this is a subject that is very difficult for me to discuss... it's so complicated..and sensitive that I feel somehow... "shy" to tell how I think on this ... because i don't know how people would react and because I feel that I still need to learn more about it... But here's a some part of it...<br />
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<br />[...][size=10pt]Both Michael and ELvis have an androgyne side of them.... ? <br />I would say Michael really had it but Elvis - IDK, not very much, well maybe a little. [/size][...]
Oh yes, Elvis could really have a very gentle, sweet feminine look sometimes, especially in his younger years... And what was androgynous about Elvis was not that much his physical aspect , but his character, his natural way of being. I explain ....<br /><br />We all know of course he's known more for his "sex-symbol"-reputation. Don't let yourselves be tricked by that. It was only an image built by his manager Tom Parker and all the music-industry people profiting around him, but Elvis' true nature wasn't like that. <br /><br />ELVIS quotes:
Reporter: "Elvis, are you satisfied with your image?"<br />Elvis: "Well, sir, it's very hard to live up to an image." (press conference June 9, 1972)<br /><br />"Don't criticize what you don't understand, son, you never walked in that man's shoes."
<br />He seemed to be a womanizer, but that's because he was tender and loving, he liked to caress, to touch , to kiss all his female-fans, and all his female movie-partners, but deep in his heart it wasn't as sexual as it may have appeared to the "outsiders", the general public and of course the media who always gives a pervert note to everything! so that it "sells better!"<br /><br />
This is one of my favorite live-moments with Elvis ... and his natural loving character<br />Gorgeous ELVIS spreading LOVE ♥ & KISSes to his fans ("Love Me Tender" 1970)<br />
<br /><br />Many famous women who met Elvis (and also numerous fans) declared that he most often would prefer to take women to his bedroom, but not for sex, just for a good night's friendly talk [most often about the purpose of life, existential problems, about God and the Bible] or just for cuddling and falling asleep together, he got along very well with women because of his feminine side in him; and he was also very childlike [YES! childlike! just like Michael!] which explains why he felt more attracted to teen-age girls than mature women! But just as in the case of Michael who had a special bond with children, people and the media always tended to think in a pervert way! and accuse them of being sexually interested! Which was NOT the case!!<br /> I think for both of them, Elvis & Michael, their inner innocence regarding the sexuality , combined with their brilliant minds and their extreme beauty, all together formed a whole that was irresistibly attractive !! and angelic at the same time!<br /><br />I kept this quote from an article that i read some time ago, I think it's very relevant to what i said here above ^^ and also to show you how much Elvis and Michael resembled in nature! They really looked like and behaved like angels...that's my point in this whole discussion ...which is so vast...this is just an aspect of it all!!<br />
June Wilkinson (Playboy star & actress): "I met Elvis on the set of "King Creole". He invited me to dinner at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. Then Elvis gave me a tour of his suite, sat me on the bed in his bedroom and sang to me for two hours. That was it. The next day, we had dinner again. He was very sweet, and he was friendly. He had more than sex on his mind. He got me to the airport on time, and our paths never crossed again."<br /><br />Alan Fortas (bodyguard & friend): "Elvis needed someone to baby more than he needed a sex partner. He craved the attention of someone who adored him without the threat of sexual pressure, much as a mother would [...] Elvis befriended some of the young 14-year-old girls who used to cluster adoringly in his driveway, or outside the fence. Out in the backyard, they romped with Elvis in the Doughboy pool and challenged him to watermelon-seed spitting contests. They also slipped into his bedroom for rambunctious pillow fights. Sometimes they would all sit cross-legged with him on the bed, flipping through his fan magazines or admiring his stuffed-animal collection. Often they would all lie down together and cuddle. But what went on was horseplay, not foreplay."
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Elvis also got along very well with men! he had such strong bonds with his male-friends that at some point he was even accused of being gay and/or bisexual ! Another exaggeration of course [just like we heard about Michael too!]! Elvis had his loyal group of friends (nicknamed the "Memphis Mafia" who used to follow him everywhere! They admired him and respected him and loved him beyond their own lives! 2 of these friends even jumped in front of an armed man to protect Elvis...they thought that man was going to shoot him, but there was a misunderstanding, I don't remember very well the story, but I saw that interview with one of the guys who told they were ready to give their own life for Elvis!); also one of his "Memphis Mafia" friends declared in an interview that sometimes when they were all together with Elvis, they felt so high, so loved, so good together... and when talking about these guys loyally following Elvis everywhere, he even made a reference to the 12 Apostles following Jesus, he immediately excused himself by saying that he's not claiming Elvis was Jesus, but that it was really the feeling he had sometimes when he was in that group with Elvis. After Elvis 'died", one of his friends said in an interview something like this, I paraphrase: "Anyone who knew Elvis like we did, knew that Elvis was all about LOVE".<br /><br />Isn't all of this ^^ shockingly identically resembling to MICHAEL ?? to everything MICHAEL stood for? And it can't be all a coincidence. And It can't be that Michael admired and imitated Elvis. No! it's much more than that !!! And my opinion is that it's all related to GOD. I just can't see another logical, reasonable answer to this! <br /><br /><br /><br />
This is a video-montage that I made about their humanitarianism:<br /><br />
Thanks SimPattyK. I didn't realize that Elvis and Michael had that much in common. I never was an Elvis fan probably because I was just a kid in the seventies. Interesting, maybe they really could be working together ???? Well if so, Elvis needs to hurry up. He is 76 or 77 if he is still alive!!!!!!! Anyway my mother is a huge Elvis fan and she is almost 70. <br /> mj_dance/<br />Peace and Love
Thank you @Dontwalkaway ! i am glad if I could bring you some new insight on both of them.<br />I wasn't even born in the seventies. I was born in 1980.<br />I was a Michael Jackson fan before I loved any other artists.<br />In my adolescence I had a period when I was literally obsessed with Elvis too.<br />I never stopped loving them both with all my heart. And I never stopped discovering more an more artists and musical genres besides them.<br /><br />Next year Elvis will turn 77 years old. I am sure he is alive. I am not very sure he desires to come back though.<br />But I am sure he and Michael are together in this and that GOD works through them.<br />I don't know what will come next, but I believe in God...and like Elvis said "All good things come from God"...so i expect good things to come!! <br /><br />Much love to you!<br />sending you kisses <br />
SimPattyK, thanks for your highlighting of Elvis. I didn't realize this gentle loving child-loving side to him. He really seems endearing, and kissing all those women. /woohoo/ I wonder what would have happened if MJ started doing that. There would have been absolute pandemonium. afraid/<br /><br />I just happened to see this little video clip of MJ today that maybe I'll stick in here, because MJ's laugh when holding the children is so adorable. Absolutely angelic!<br /><br /><br /><br />I'll be interested in your take/presentation of Scriptural applications to MJ and Elvis lives!<br /><br />
<br />SimPattyK, thanks for your highlighting of Elvis. I didn't realize this gentle loving child-loving side to him. He really seems endearing, [...]
I am so glad I managed to express myself so that you can get this exact feeling of him. <br />To me, at least regarding this aspect: MJ = Elvis and Elvis = MJ, they both form ONE, they are ONE divine entity. And if you love MJ , then you definitely love Elvis too and/or vice-versa! Only those who don't know anything on one of them, only those cannot see how God's work glows in both of them equally! they are messengers here on Earth, I have no doubt about that! and LOVE is their mission.<br /><br />
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<br />[...] kissing all those women. /woohoo/ I wonder what would have happened if MJ started doing that. There would have been absolute pandemonium. afraid/
oohh lmao I also tried to imagine that! Seeing how much hysteria he caused only by inviting that one single girl on stage in every concert! if he had descended the stage to go and hug and kiss fans like ELvis did... OMG! there would have been no Michael in a few seconds! lmao he would have "vanished" in air! Elvis got lucky that in his time, the fans even though they got hysterical and screamed, were still more shy and restrained in gestures and behavior, did you see how they politely waited in line to get a hug or kiss from Elvis, they didn't grab him or tear his clothes off or something like that...<br /><br />And you're right Michael's laugh sounds angelic...totally cute! <br />Yous should search youtube for ELvis' laughters too...you would be amazed!<br /><br />
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<br />[...]I'll be interested in your take/presentation of Scriptural applications to MJ and Elvis lives![...]
For now I am in the stage of still gathering infos, photos , clues... and sorting them according to their category... it also involves art!
[size=12pt]The Last Supper ~ The Moon & The JUPITER Finger [/size]
<br /><br />Here are some of my first findings that connect Michael & Elvis to religious matters ... and also ART<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Some close-ups so that you can read better:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />MJ - PALM<br /><br /><br /><br />The article telling us about LaToya's "hurting" JUPITER finger!! loll I just love LaToya!! She dropped the most significant clues in the hoax!! Jermaine too, but LaToya rocksssssssss ! <br />LaToya Jackson Released From Hospital -http://icydk.com/2011/09/01/latoya-jackson-released-from-hospital/<br /><br />Coincidence or not, Elvis had also broken his finger at some point... LMAO <br />here's an excerpt from the article that you can read in a whole on this link: http://www.elvispresleymusic.com.au/elvis_presley_1960_1966.html<br />
October 16, 1960 - Elvis breaks his finger playing touch football at Graceland. Elvis was first treated first at Campbell Clinic, where doctors decided to transfer him to the hospital because they didn't have enough space to accommodate the anticipated large number of visitors. His touch football teammates and Anita Wood, disk jockey and Elvis' frequent companion when he is in Memphis, accompanied him to the hospital.<br />[. . . . . ]<br />
Thank you for all your work SimPattyK. It's great !!!! I would never have found or thought about all this. Can you explain the whole 42 angle thing and Jupiter ? I don't really understand it. How is it connected to ET and maybe other ET's ? I am pretty sure after reading different things this past year that there are UFO's and ET's that are real. Some theories about Elvis, Michael and some others : they can channel like David Wilcock does, they remember past lives like Wilcock does, they have developed higher powers like psychic powers due to DNA repair, meditation etc. or they were abducted at some point ????? There are also things about starseeds,indigo children, and lightworkers. Lightworkers and wayshowers. It seems to go along with LIGHTMAN. And I read some think Jesus was a wayshower. And I watched the history channel a few months ago and they were talking about Jesus being a time traveler. Traveling from a planet more evolved than earth or traveling down from the future earth ????? I don't know really. These are just thoughts that are going through my mind. What do you think ? I can't ask anyone around here. They think I went crazy but I don't care because I am learning a lot. /cook/
@Dontwalkaway: thank you for your message. <br /><br />I will tell you first how I think about all these paranormal/science/fiction/holy/crazy OR not crazy theories about Jesus, aliens, ET, Michael, Elvis etc...<br /><br />Until MJ's hoax, I always thought that people who spoke about these kind of things were really crazy OR they had a big imagination and a special taste for SF movies lol<br /><br /><br />1. After... I started researching about <br />- NWO, Illuminati and the 9/11 conspiracy, <br />- Bankers and people who rule the world from behind!<br />- then MJ's death hoax came, and the connections to Elvis<br />- then I learned about H.A.A.R.P. <br />- and the mafia in the Pharmaceutical industry. <br />- Then I learned about the BLUE-beam Project and the so-called "Alien attack on Earth" that the Illuminati are planning I order to take total control of the world population... <br /><br />^^ I tend to believe that these ^^ theories may be true and the facts and proofs to sustain this category of theories can be verified and observed in the real world by any person with an open mind and who is awaken mentally and NOT manipulated and brainwashed by the media.<br /><br /><br />2. On the other hand, there is also a category of theories, that at least to me seems surreal, fantasies...exaggerations, sometimes created and spread exactly by those powerful people (Illuminati, the bankers, the media moguls) who are afraid to be exposed by the 1st category of theories [mentioned above]. So they intentionally spread these false and outrageous theories with the purpose of discrediting and ridiculing those who try to expose them and their dark plans.<br /><br /><br />@Dontwalkaway: you enumerated many theories in your comment, more or less related to Michael and Elvis.<br />I don't know them all, and I know some things about some of them [I find out something about INDIGO children too...starting from my investigation on the color PURPLE which is very much present both in Elvis an MJ's hoax]<br />I can't say which ones are reliable and true or which ones are just inventions.<br />I didn't have time and I won't have time to investigate everything. And it's not my intention either.<br /><br />But I can only tell you what I have already find out while searching clues about Michael and Elvis being alive. <br />As I said, in time I will slowly show you everything I know.<br />If you find clues about MJ & Elvis related to the theories you mentioned in your post, please share them with us.
<br />[...] [size=12pt]Can you explain the whole 42 angle thing and Jupiter ? [/size] I don't really understand it. How is it connected to ET and maybe other ET's ? [...]
As I said , I am only at the "scratch" of this whole thing. I am very aware there are more things to discover and I am still researching this Jupiter clue! As soon as I find out more, I keep you posted <br />I can now tell you what I think... what my intuition tells me lol <br />Maybe I will say something stupid, but I'll say it lol I think that the 42 angle is the mathematical angle of the rainbow in relation to the Earth horizontal line or maybe in relation to the SUN! <br /><br />I am not very sure but what caught my attention on this were The 42 angle & The Rainbow: <br />1. the RAINBOW - a very present theme in Elvis and Michael's hoax! <br />There are many rainbows in their movies, songs, videos, album covers, etc...<br />Then think in COLORS !! What are the hoax colors that we saw so often related to Elvis and MJ??<br />PINK, RED, YELLOW, BLUE, GREEN, PURPLE, ORANGE ! ----))) ALL part of a rainbow's colors !!<br /><br />2. The rainbow is also connected to the Bible and MJ &Elvis. [ This is something new that I discovered and I am still preparing something to show you in what way!] Very interesting!!<br /><br />3. NUMEROLOGY & The number 42 !! - very specific to ELvis!<br />Elvis "died" at the age of 42 ! <br />AND 42 MIRRORED is the reverse of Number24 - which is another important number both for Elvis and MJ !!<br />Take a look at this 2 photo montages to see how closely related to MJ & Elvis these 2 numbers are: 42 & 24<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />ELVIS quotes:<br />
ELVIS: [size=10pt]"If even one person can be led to GOD because of me, it will be worth it."[/size]<br /><br />ELVIS: "[...] There's more to me than that guy up there on the stage: You know, Elvis the image. What my fans and everyone else need to know is that I'm a spiritual person. If they don't know that, they'll never really know who I am and what makes me tick."
1. I enjoyed watching most of the videos from this Youtube channel ~ OpenToLife ~<br />Here's one video-series from this channel related to MJ and the alignment of not only the Planets,<br />
BUT also... just watch this: Michael Jackson ~ Aligning our Consciousness Part 1 -<br />
<br /><br /><br />2. Regarding the RAINBOW and what I said above ^^ this is another very interesting video from the same channel, <br />
making connections between Michael and the "Legend of Rainbow Warriors" <br />Even if it is only a legend... call it a fantasy if you like... it still is SOOO very much interesting!<br /><br />
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3. Related to MJ & Elvis and the "Last Supper" paintings, <br />both created by artists [and NOT by some photoshop-expert!]<br /><br />
Thank you SimpattyK for all your work. Also, I was thinking they are talking about rainbows because it has all the colors or frequencies of light. The Egyptian's have illustrations of the Gods praying to the sun but it is thought they were reading the light. They could decode the information from the light. Information even DNA codes could be in the energy field. Watch David Wilcock's new video on his webpage on DivineCosmos.com and it was posted on here also. Very interesting.<br /><br />Love bearhug
WOW! Now that's an interesting additional comment @Dontwalkaway! thanks for info about the frequencies of light and DNA!! I will put this info "in line" to wait for me to research more on it! Oh GOD there's still so MUCH to discover and so LITTLE time!!!I wish I didn't have to work, I wish the day lasted 48 hours and not only 24 ! I wish I could have more time to be able to learn on all this stuff!
Yes SimPattyK there is a lot of information to learn about but we are helping eachother. David Wilcock has interesting theories and he backs it up with research and scientific evidence. You should watch the video where he talks about shooting a laser through eggs to pick up the DNA code using the light. There is a lot of information in the energy field that we haven't discovered how to use yet. Just think about radio waves, gamma rays, frequencies used for TV, satellite,internet etc. People hundreds of years ago probably couldn't have imagined it. Now we are used to having all this. Imagine what the next technological step could do. Things like telepathy, psychic abilities, time travel, new energy sources, healing, teleportation, levitation, etc. Love /woohoo/
[size=12pt]Are you READY for some mind-blowing infos??[/size]<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]And there's so much more !!!<br />I wish I had more time...[/size]<br /><br />
Great pictures SimPattyK ! Where do you get them all ? I have seen some of the ones with Michael before but not the Elvis ones. What do you think this means ?<br /><br />In Michael's poem "Are you listening", he talks about immortality and being a flux of energy and light. He talks about playing hide and seek and taking different forms. Do you think he means your soul or spirit is reincarnated into different bodies or different forms ? You never really die. Only your physical form changes. This is like the Hindu religion I think. Can people remember past lives ? Are they time traveling from the past to the future ? Maybe there can be parallel universes. Anyway, Michael has talked about being Peter Pan in his heart, and there are paintings of him dressed like Bacchus, and King David, and Angel pictures, and Renaissance paintings. Renaissance costumes etc. Then there is him dressed as Green Man and Egyptian God or Statue. The egyptian statue of Neferti, Egyptian Goddess really does look like him. And in the scream video he is dressed like a person from the future in a spaceship, but there are paintings called the son of man. Well I always thought he was doing these paintings, songs, and costumes etc. for art and music and telling us to learn about these things. Now it seems that there is more to it !!!!!!! In that Elvis poem/song you posted he says he is remembering things from 10,000 years ago !!!!!!! I really don't know too much about Elvis' songs and stuff. Only a few of the hits that you hear a lot but now you have me more interested in it. Thanks for all your help. Peace and Love <br /><br />Just some theories. I don't know. Any ideas ??????????
Well, I have other thoughts after watching the Opentolife videos above. I saw them months ago but there is so much information in them it was good to watch them again. It is interesting that he says Michael is either a pleidiean or is connected to them and is channeling them. I heard they were like advanced or evolved humans from the future from the stars of the pleidies. He was talking about star seeds. Consciousness sent from the stars. There are lightworkers and star seeds sent to help us. I really don't understand how it works. <br /><br />Well what is interesting is that on the history channel several months ago they were talking about Jesus possibly being and extraterrestrial or a time traveler ? And angels possibly being light beings from higher demensions or et's ? Also on a website about the Pleidians or Bringers of the Dawn, they had a list of people who are pleidian or star seeds from Pleides and Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson were listed but so were a lot of other famous people and celebrities. And some have said that all humans are derived from different aliens and star people and I guess the evil ones (illuminati blood line) are related to the reptilians. That's the theory some have. Just something to think about. You can't believe everything you read or see. "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the gospel". I am just brainstorming and trying to find the truth. <br /><br />Well, on a few websites about the aliens; They had a question for us humans. They said they couldn't come to help earth and humans if we didn't want or ask for them. They also need a certain number. It's the law of the universe. They can't interfere with free choice. It said you didn't need to write or say it. They will get the message through telepathy!!!!!! I say "Yes, Please Come, the earth is in sad shape. I think some are already here but can't come out in the open too much because some people would freak. They made crop circles and turned off some nuclear weapons and plants. There have been UfO mentions lately. There was a glowing floating light a few days ago on CNN. They said people see it every day and then they said it was a comet. Wouldn't a comet just crash somewhere ?<br />That story doesn't make sense. Peace and Love bearhug<br />
<br />Great pictures SimPattyK ! Where do you get them all ? [...]
You know, I'm starting to ask myself that question too! At first I started to SEE similarities in clothes, colors, looks, photos, lyrics. And whenever I wanted to emphasize a similarity, I would just simply put those pics together in a montage.<br />Then I started to HAVE IDEAS.... just like that out of the BLUE! even during the nights I sometimes wake up and I get ideas about some connections....and then the next day I start searching on Google anything that could help me illustrate in a photo-montage that IDEA!! And you know what! I always find what I'm looking for!!! <br />And what really makes me freak out right now is the fact that now, I start to look for something that I had in mind, in order to do a photo-montage, and in the process of it, I find myself doing something else or more! For ex, last evening I only wanted to make a single photo-montage with MJ & Elvis and 4 photos of them as David. And as you can see I ended up making these 3 montages... the more I think/work on this , the more ideas I get! just like that... out of nowhere, on the spot! It's amazing!! I am amazed myself of what I did after I finish it!<br /><br />
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In Michael's poem "Are you listening", he talks about immortality and being a flux of energy and light. He talks about playing hide and seek and taking different forms. Do you think he means your soul or spirit is reincarnated into different bodies or different forms ? You never really die. Only your physical form changes. This is like the Hindu religion I think. Can people remember past lives ? Are they time traveling from the past to the future ? Maybe there can be parallel universes.[...]
I don't believe that this is correct for all the people. BUT I believe that GOD, his Angels, his prophets, all those whom HE chooses to carry His message, they are all immortal spirits, time travelers, who can take any form/body in any specific time in history in order to guide us on the right path! I think both Michael and Elvis are such divine spirits! I don't know what they were first created as. It may be that Elvis was King David at first, or someone related to this divine lineage, like Moses or Aaron... and Michael, either he was Archangel Michael in the beginning or... I don't know! But they were always THERE in some way or another, in some body or another, Michael explained it very well in his poem "Are you Listening"! This is what explains why Mj , Elvis and other famous people too, resemble so much to work of arts,historical or biblical characters! This is why there are all these similarities and connections: it's normal! they are created by a single divine entity , which is GOD !!<br />But I NEVER believed in aliens!! there is no such thing!! [this is just the NWO/Illuminati trick, that's why they started tot talk about them even on Discovery channel! which is believed to be a "credible/reliable" source, and it's NOT! "they" want us to believe in alien existence! in order to manipulate us easier when time comes!]<br />In my opinion: In this universe there is only one GOD [and his Army of love], the Devil [and his evil spirits] and WE, the humans!! and the humans may have some psychic abilities that it seems they forgot in time, because they were intentionally "blinded" by the Devil, by corrupting the humans' soul with all sort of temptations...<br />The humans are mortal, they do not incarnate, they are not healers, but they do have as I said some psychic abilities [like telepathy, and stuff like that] but only if they know how to use their mind [the power of thought, the law of attraction, meditation, etc...] and only if they cleanse their spirits and bodies of all evil! <br /><br />Yes you're right, @Dontwalkaway - the videos from Youtube channel -Opentolife- are indeed very interesting an they really explain very well this possibility of Michael being a divine spirit , a light warrior, traveling in time in order to enlighten the humans. What I like about these videos is that they are made from a very realistic, down to Earth, provable perspective, with always making a comparison to what happens in the real world. So even if the basic idea may sound delusional to the unaware watcher, when you see the concrete real examples from today you start realizing what really happens!! and you understand the connections!<br /><br /><br />I like your comments <br />Much LOVE to you <br /> bearhug<br /><br /><br />
Dontwalkaway, you've got interesting topics in your post, which I'd like to respond to another time. fresse/<br />Excellent work SimPattyK! You sure pack in the details for close scrutiny! afraid/ /bravo/<br />Your other topics are ones I enjoy too, so I might add something later. You've got a great gift, researching and creating the montages! bearhug<br /><br />I would say that Michael is competitive with Elvis, and is not meaning only to compare with him similarly but to be the victor over him. In the painting where MJ sits centre, Elvis is merely one of his group, much like Jesus and his disciples. Always Michael said he learned from the masters and became even better. Which would include Jesus, as Michael many times said he was not Jesus but was wanting to be like Jesus. And no where does he ever say he believes in or has faith in Jesus. So like P.T. Barnum, James Brown, Elvis, and more including Jesus, he only sees them as masters to learn from, imitate and be even better. He clearly sees himself as top “dog”, and that all coming from God, as he claims it does. If you have even seen the movie Megamind, you will see that MJ intends for himself to be the ultimate Superhero with all others including the Elvis-Megaman fading to insignificance. I know Diane Sawyer said in the MJ, Lisa interview when they showed a clip of MJ’s history video that maybe he was conceited. Here’s part of the transcript:<br />
<br />Diane Sawyer: We're going to show you a film now, created by Michael Jackson. And, it is causing a furor...in some movie theaters around this country. They say among other things that, it is clearly modeled, after 'Triumph of The Will'. They mean, Riefenstahl. A Nazi film with a Nazi meaning to it.<br />Michael: It's not true. None of that's true. None of those things are true.<br />Diane Sawyer: Did you watch that film before you did it?<br />Diane Sawyer: I watch everything, I love movies, I love documentaries. It had nothing to do with that at all.<br />Diane Sawyer: But there are people who keep saying, this is . . . they look at it and say this is...<br />Michael: Absolutely not.<br />Diane Sawyer: You were....<br />Michael: It has nothing to do with politics, or communism, or fascism at all....<br />Diane Sawyer: Well, the critics have said that, it’s the most... body vain, glorious, self-deification a pop singer ever undertook with a straight face.<br />Michael: Good! That's what I wanted.<br />Diane Sawyer: For the controversy?<br />Michael: Yeah! They fell into my trap.<br />Diane Sawyer: But the people who say that...<br />Michael: I wanted everybody's attention.<br />Diane Sawyer: But for the people who say those symbols, matter ...<br />Michael: No. The symbols...no.<br />Diane Sawyer: The suffering ...<br />Michael: No. The symbol has nothing to do with that. It's not political. It's not Fascist. It's not dogma. It's not...y'know, ideology and all of this stuff. It's pure, simple love. You don't see any tanks, you don't see any cannons. It's about love. It's people coming together . . .<br />Diane Sawyer: About love. We're going to let everybody watch a bit of it.<br />Michael: Yeah, but its art. It is art!<br />Diane Sawyer: OK.<br />Michael: We had a director; we get him to create art.<br />Diane Sawyer: The short answer, coming up...here it comes.<br />[Part of the HIStory trailer is shown]<br />Diane Sawyer: Well, as we said, we're going to clearly agree to disagree maybe, on what this means to...some people watching it. There's been another issue raised. In a song you say, "Jew me, sue me". And some people are saying that that is anti-Semitic.<br />Michael: It's not anti-Semitic. Because, I'm not a racist person. I could never be a racist. I love all races of people - from Arabs, to Jewish people, like I said before, to blacks. But when I say, "Jew me, sue me, everybody do me, kick me, kike me, don't you black or white me, " I'm talking about myself as the victim, you know. My accountants and lawyers are Jewish. My three best friends are Jewish - David Geffen, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Stephen Spielberg, Mike Milkin. These are friends of mine. They're all Jewish. So how does that make sense? I was raised in a Jewish community.<br />http://kingofpopmj.tripod.com/prime.htm<br />
<br />And here’s pics of the huge statues MJ made of himself.<br />http://www.pophistorydig.com/?tag=michael-jackson-history-video<br />Also I think there may be an element of black-skin (MJ's) triumphing over white-skin which Elvis represented. There has long been a race war on this planet and may still be in the future. JMT <br /><br />I guess I'm pretty big on Michael only, eh? mj_bad/ michael-jackson/
@MJonmind: thank you, you're so kind !<br /><br />I agree with what you say, but only partially.<br />I agree with what you say about Michael's ambition of learning from the masters and becoming even better, of being-like and/or imitating Jesus.<br /><br />But I don't think he did/does it from a "competitive urge".<br />Competitiveness automatically implies a profit, a reward, gaining something, a prize, an award, applause, money, higher position, etc. Competitiveness is a human quality in certain cases, but it can also be a childish, even obsessive, greedy default!<br />So if you say that Michael wants to surpass his masters, because of a competitive ambition, you also imply the fact that he expects some profit out of it. Which is not the case. I really don't see Michael expecting some appraisal from God, because he managed to surpass Jesus or Elvis loll Other than that [reward], I really don't see any reason/logic, at this level of discussion [divine masters] for someone to be competitive. What would they gain from their Competitiveness? There is no such notion as Gain and Competitiveness in a Heavenly dimension! There is only harmony, love and unity there, at least in my perception of it all...<br /><br />So, if it's not Competitiveness, then what is it? Why did he try so hard to become better and better?<br />It's simple: it's the divine tendency towards PERFECTION ! This is definitely the feature of a GODlike character and NOT a Competitive one [- which sounds more like humans!]<br />This tendency towards perfection, is encountered in humans too, we say "Nobody is perfect!", ok, but we are "PERFECT-ABLE" - which means we can improve continuously, become better and better, this is what a PERFECTIONIST does, he's never satisfied with himself, always looking for more!<br /><br />GOD surpasses Himself every time, He continuously creates... So it seems obvious that with every Angel or Prophet or Visionary [call him what you like], He sent us Someone way better every time! God's creation is perfect! so are His messengers or least they tend to be! and so are WE-the humans, we are also God's creation, but we are a creation "in the making", in his Great generosity, God left us with the free-will, therefore we can choose to become more GOD-like [perfect or "perfect-able"] or NOT!
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