Documentary of Dr. Murray already all on youtube if you want to see it

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  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    I haven't had much time here in the past few days, and still haven't (boo hoo!), but just wanted to say I'm pretty sure I spotted a couple of cans of Red Bull in the shots of MJ's room in the UK version. I'll have another look when I get time.
  • anewfananewfan Posts: 1,125
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    <br />I haven't had much time here in the past few days, and still haven't (boo hoo!), but just wanted to say I'm pretty sure I spotted a couple of cans of Red Bull in the shots of MJ's room in the UK version. I'll have another look when I get time.<br />
    <br /><br />I noticed random beer bottles in the US version. (at least they looked like them) I noticed Flanagan and Chernoff were drinking Miller Lite. Maybe Miller Lite is a sponsor of this? Lol!
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    suspicious mind, you beat me to it about MJ Japan tour on buying glasses. And reading glasses from the drugstore are like $5, and only magnify a little for reading--no big deal.<br /><br /><br />I'm not sure if this was mentioned in light of TS saying he was Murray and other hints. At 8:50:<br /><br />"I went there to take care of a healthy man who said he was fine, to just keep surveillance in case my kids get sick, or I get the flue, help us to choose better foods, and wash our hands so we don't get infections.  But once I got in there I was entrapped."<br /><br />http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/videos/dr-conrad-murray-documentary-part-4/<br /><br />TS talked a lot about the danger of entrapment when the FBI perform a sting operation. The danger is to set up a suspect almost forcing him to commit a crime to charge him, but avoid entrapment.  Is MJ hinting through Murray that there are sting elements to this hoax, waiting for certain ones/groups to take the bait?  I'm not really supporting the sting theory much though, just a thought.  <br />Maybe it's just another TS=Murray thing again!<br /><br />
  • <br />I noticed random beer bottles in the US version. (at least they looked like them) I noticed Flanagan and Chernoff were drinking Miller Lite. Maybe Miller Lite is a sponsor of this? Lol!<br />
    <br /><br />miller lite................. :( thanks lol now i want one lolllllll i only drink this when i go in the USA....I try like no one in quebec to get one but i can't find this beer in here :(
  • MissGMissG Posts: 7,403
    The glasses Michael wore don´t look like normal drugstore reading glasses. The lens it´s very thick.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
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    <br />Why would a 50 old man pee in bed crash/???<br />Imagine, the maker of Thriller pee in bed WTF?? WTF?? WTF??!<br /><br />Was he peeing in bed during tours? <br />This is beyond any imagination. His mother knew Michael was wetting his bed? What about Lisa Marie /pull hair/?<br /><br />I would scream but it's 1 o'clock in the night and I don't want to wake up everybody /scream/<br />
    <br /><br />LMAO, Gina!<br />You made my day with this comment! LOL!<br />I wonder if MJ also made the other thing in bed too. LOL<br />BTW congratulations for your trying to open the eyes of the non-believers on the official forum. I saw your comments in the "alleged victim" thread on the official forum. :) <br /><br />
    <br /><br />Honestly, I wasn't trying to open their eyes, I just couldn't resist posting an opinion and some doubts, but they accept that crap that it was drafted from before that way and they couldn't change it.<br /><br />Damn that explanation doesn't satisfy me at all /scream/
  • I am completely confused as to why the defense team would allow a group of reporters/cameramen into their home, office meetings, etc when at any given time they could have leaked information as to what the defense strategy was going to be. Also odd to me is why would a camera crew be in the vehicle with Murray while he was on his way to court if this was not all staged from the beginning? But even in light of this, I think the thing that I found most odd was there was no mention of a date as to when the interview with Murray was made except at the end when he was crying and said he didn't want to talk anymore, then it noted that it was 2009.  Unless his whole interview was done in 2009, I find it odd that the room in which the interview took place NEVER changed in 2 years time.  Maybe I am losing my mind but that just keeps popping into my head.
  • gwynnedgwynned Posts: 1,361
    Here's my take on this for what it's worth.  These reporters seem to be salivating over the amount of money that can be made by auctioning off the bed that Michael Jackson died in??????  Seriously, who but a ghoul could ever sleep in such a bed?  <br /><br />Seems clear to me that Michael's writing this script as an object lesson. 
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
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    <br />I found these screenshots interesting:<br />Murray said at his statement to the LAPD that Michael was legally blind, that he never went to a ophtamologist and Michael <br />bathroomglasses.JPG<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />bathnotes1.JPG<br /><br /><br />
    <br /><br />I've just been watching the documentary again and pausing on the shots of the various rooms to see what I could see.<br /><br />I don't know how to do screenshots to post here but I found the Red Bull cans - there are two of them under the mirror with the 'no violence ever' note (you can just see the top of one to the right of the sign), and in the corner in front of the vase on the top pic that paula posted above, is a bottle of FIJI WATER - again it crops up!<br /><br />There was a very interesting list of song titles, with several of the songs off the Michael album, and other notes near the start of the doc.  I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but forgive me if I've missed it. Can anyone tell me how to post a pic here or do one for me? It is at 13:06 here:<br /><br />[embed=425,349]http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-man-who-killed-michael-jackson/4od[/embed]
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I finally got the chance to watch it completely, Murray is a fantastic actor! The interview in the beginning cracked me up, the ATTITUDE!  :lol:<br /><br />"You read the Daily Beast? Really?"<br /><br />I also think Murray told us here that he is NOT a doctor:<br /><br />"It does look like, for a 150,000 dollars a month, which was the fee I understand, that you essentially did whatever Michael Jackson asked you to: less doctor, more supplier."<br /><br />Murray: "I am in no way any of what you just mentioned."<br /><br />So is he actually saying that he is not a doctor or supplier? "...in no way ANY of what you just mentioned."<br /><br />It was an interesting documentary and I will have to watch it again. But I can't help but thinking that Chernoff looked a little like Harvey Levin. The mannerisms, the trained, short body. Probably just me.<br /><br />Waiting patiently for Murray - Part 2  lolol/<br /><br />

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
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    <br /><br /><br />There was a very interesting list of song titles, with several of the songs off the Michael album, and other notes near the start of the doc.  I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but forgive me if I've missed it. Can anyone tell me how to post a pic here or do one for me? It is at 13:06 here:<br /><br />[embed=425,349]http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-man-who-killed-michael-jackson/4od[/embed]<br />
    <br /><br />Sorry to quote myself, but the more I look at this the more I see! It even says: D.I.E. <br /><br />I've been trying all sorts of things to get a pic on here but I can't do it, nothing works - please can someone help?!  I realise that the link I gave probably doesn't work outside UK, but I really hope someone can post a pic.  It's an amazing shot of MJ handwritten notes - I promise it's worth a look!<br /><br />
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
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    <br />Interesting piece of theatre....<br /><br />I don't know whether to laugh or cry.<br /><br />LaughingMonkey.gif<br /><br /><br />Wow....just wow.<br />
    <br /><br />You couldn't have said it best  lolol/<br /><br />murraydocu4wow.jpg
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
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    <br /><br /><br />There was a very interesting list of song titles, with several of the songs off the Michael album, and other notes near the start of the doc.  I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but forgive me if I've missed it. Can anyone tell me how to post a pic here or do one for me? It is at 13:06 here:<br /><br />[embed=425,349]http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-man-who-killed-michael-jackson/4od[/embed]<br />
    <br /><br />Sorry to quote myself, but the more I look at this the more I see! It even says: D.I.E. <br /><br />I've been trying all sorts of things to get a pic on here but I can't do it, nothing works - please can someone help?!  I realise that the link I gave probably doesn't work outside UK, but I really hope someone can post a pic.  It's an amazing shot of MJ handwritten notes - I promise it's worth a look!<br /><br /><br />
    <br /><br />Are you talking about this Curls?<br /><br />murraydocu1.jpg
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    That's it Sarahli!! Thank you so much. What do you think of it?
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
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    <br />That's it Sarahli!! Thank you so much. What do you think of it?<br />
    <br /><br />I don't really know as it's not very clear, I can't read what's written or I'm not sure (I need those glasses on the bed geek/)<br /><br />The obvious things that stand out is "beautiful girl" "Coco butter" "To late to turn back"<br /><br />Maybe we can have a better picture...<br />
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Songs, lyrics, music...that's what he did...
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    447478040.jpg<br /><br />Too late to turn back! Hold My Hand, Best Of Joy, Hollywood Tonight. So the songs were already completed?! <br /><br />447474822.jpg<br /><br />ED HARDY MJ 1 up  Jackson Mall  and kids line Beddings glove surgical mask boots covered in stones<br /><br />murrayman.jpg<br /><br />Lots of mirrors in the documentary. Murray is looking in the mirror like he is the Man in the Mirror. Mirror usage in cinema, represents another character of the person which means the person is not what he looks like, he is someone different, he has other personalities. Murray looks like a murderer but he is innocent in real. <br /><br /><br />999k.jpg<br /><br />9.99 This looked like 3.99 the price tag on the bloody shirt. And 9 9 9 is so important in the numerology part of the hoax. Making 6 6 6 upside down.<br /><br />
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Thanks for the pictures PureLove. So "D.I.E." was part of the things to do.<br /><br />Murray said something interesting during the interview that can refer to Michael as well in thinking of the 2005 trial: "My story is one of David and Goliath. I've seen the whole world coming at me. That's Goliath."<br />
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    Thanks to you too PureLove! That's clearer.<br /><br />I can read the following:<br /><br />On the left:<br /><br />(the way you) love Me<br />the loser<br />Best of Joy<br />Is she coming Back = FR???<br />D.I.E.<br />DARK LADY H2O<br />Bottom of my heart<br />Hold My HAND<br />Remember what I told you<br />Can't stop lovin you<br />Silent Spring<br />You were there<br />Hollywood Tonight<br />SHUT up AND DANCE<br />Rock TONight<br />ADoRe you<br />Breath<br /><br />On the right:<br /><br />LADy of (Summer??)<br />BeuTiFul GIRl<br />(K???)<br />Don't walk away<br />MJ (N????)<br />(Melodie New???)<br />BARRi Gibb<br />MJ song<br />COCO<br />butter!<br />Finish<br />Scared of the Moon<br />Beautiful Girl <br />Cheater<br />TOO late TO TURN BACK NOW<br />(Vocals???)<br />GHOST of another/????<br /><br />+ various arrows and brackets dotted around! (I may not have got all the capitals correct!)<br /><br />Thanks to this note I've discovered this track that it seems MJ wants to finish:<br /><br />
    <br /><br />I smiled at this lyric: But now there are others that sit in their room, and wait for the sunlight to brighten their gloom, together they gather, their lunacy shared, but knowing just why they're scared, scared of the moon.<br />
  • VenusVenus Posts: 260
    I watched the stuff and i have some notes.<br />Firstly, CM says that he was the only MJ real friend ever. WTF! I mean - come on!<br />So if he thought he was his best friend, why the heck he tell all that shit about MJ. <br />Secondly, he has no rights to break doctor/patient confidence. He's ignorant. That's disgusting!<br />This stuff with pee and his father...<br /><br />Narrator behind the screen when CM is driving a car in Las Vegas reminds me of Bashir comments in "Living with MJ".<br /><br />To be honest with you guys, Murray does look like a killer. He's 100% lunatic. Even the best actors in the world can't play such madness. And he's not the best actor in the world, or we would know it long before 2009.<br />If he killed MJ, he did it not because he was payed, but because he's psychopath. This reminds me of the dude, who killed John Lennon.<br />It's like Elvis' death+John Lennon's death (death from drugs being given by psychopath! OMG!<br />This man is pure evil. He doesn't look, speak or think normal. He's spooky.<br /><br />Part 3 is extremely nuts. I saw some maniacs on tv (when they gave interview how they killed people). It was way worse than maniac.<br /><br />He could kill MJ because of his negligence. If he's nuts he couldn't realize that all this drugs actually can kill a man.<br />If he wanted to kill MJ for fame or after he accidently did it he felt as great as MJ. Look the way he talks about himself and smiles creepy. Could it be that around MJ he felt he want to be famous too. And the only way for him to be as famous as MJ is to kill MJ.<br /><br />Did you see the moment in the car when he sais - "I'm available!"? He wants to talk and talk about his relationship (probably delusional) with MJ and how he helped him. He's greedy for fame. He's just as popular as MJ. He's the most popular doctor in the world.<br />If you ask someone to name any doctor they know, they will name Conrad Murray. He's hot topic.<br />Consider this: MJ worked all his life to become famous. CM just killed MJ and now he's the most famous doctor ever. He fill serve few years in prison maximum, but go to the history forever...<br /><br />Guys it's all so sad.<br />I know you like to believe in movie theory, but it looks like lunatic asilum.<br /><br />I just hope MJ managed to survive at hospital. but I have serious doubts...
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I think Connie didn't look very tall throughout the documentary. I know many people that are around 6'5" and when they are in the car, their heads almost touch the ceiling. In some shots he appeared tall, in other shots he appeared to be avarage height. There is definitely something about our doc.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • C Murray is a great actor no doubt, and he´s playing his part very well in this documentary 2. ;) lolol/
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Looks like Best of Joy, Hold my hand and Hollywood tonight were on Michael's list for This is it WTF?? ???
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Funny that the Michael Jackson facebook just posted this......<br /><br />Michael Jackson<br />Photo of the day:<br />MJ's handwritten lyrics for "Bad!" Can you guess how old he was when he wrote this? <br /><br />Bad-Handwritten%20Lyrics.jpg<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson<br /><br /> suspicious//<br />
  • eviltwineviltwin Posts: 154
    Why in the heck is Gerald Posner in the back seat of the van with Murray when he's talking about pit bull/red bull???????
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