Who is still here ? ? ? ? ?

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  • BeTheChangeBeTheChange Posts: 1,569
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    <br />Wishingstar is like a guardian angel here ...so supportive, protective, encouraging, inspiring, spreading love and joyfulness 0088.gif You just have an adorable natural way of encouraging and making people feel good, appreciated, loved!
    <br /><br />x777 (I'll sign that ^^^  ::P)<br /><br />@Wish...<br /><br />Thanks so much for your great message above...it's great to wake up feeling like it's gonna be a good day.  And you were right, it is  ::P...and the day is not over yet.  My day started with my 10 year old telling me I'm beautiful (what more could a mom want? lol)...and then I spent my entire morning in a room with twenty 4 and 5 year olds (children are amazing creatures  ::P).  Becoming a mom and a teacher were THE two best decisions I have made in my life.  For all I know I did 'wrong' or could've done better....I always try to remember I did two things great!  <br /><br />Focussing on the little things allows us to see just how big they really are  ::P<br /><br />Love your posts Wish...and love you too  bearhug<br /><br />With L.O.V.E. always.
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
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    <br />Wishingstar is like a guardian angel here ...so supportive, protective, encouraging, inspiring, spreading love and joyfulness 0088.gif You just have an adorable natural way of encouraging and making people feel good, appreciated, loved!
    <br /><br />x777 (I'll sign that ^^^  ::P)<br /><br />@Wish...<br /><br />Thanks so much for your great message above...it's great to wake up feeling like it's gonna be a good day.  And you were right, it is  ::P...and the day is not over yet.  My day started with my 10 year old telling me I'm beautiful (what more could a mom want? lol)...and then I spent my entire morning in a room with twenty 4 and 5 year olds (children are amazing creatures  ::P).  Becoming a mom and a teacher were THE two best decisions I have made in my life.  For all I know I did 'wrong' or could've done better....I always try to remember I did two things great!  <br /><br />Focussing on the little things allows us to see just how big they really are  ::P<br /><br />Love your posts Wish...and love you too  bearhug<br /><br />With L.O.V.E. always.<br />
    <br /><br />You are impossibly sweet.....I am not sure what I ever did to get in the company of such wonderful people like you, Sim and many others here.  But, I am forever grateful. <br />I was smiling so much at your words just now......"you're beautiful" put an extra heap of love into your day, I am sure.  Especially when it's from your child.  Such a precious angel...thank you for sharing that!  A mom and a teacher are truly two of the greatest gifts you could be.  The children are so lucky to have you in their lives....they will forever be changed because of your heart, your love....even years from now.  You are truly a special person BTC.....a heart of gold and a true angel among us here.  Thank you for being you and being here!<br />Blessings to you always.....my dear friends.  <br />Love you<br /><br />Love these words, thank you BTC!<br />"Focussing on the little things allows us to see just how big they really are"
  • BeTheChangeBeTheChange Posts: 1,569
    Wish...you got me crying here  :'(...but happy tears!  I'll just add those in to my 'great day' backpack, along with all my other great things  ::P  You have no idea how much I value you  bearhug<br /><br />I'm gonna dry up my eyes...and go watch the vid I posted in the 'Songs' thread a few more times  ::P<br /><br />With L.O.V.E. always.
  • Im still here :) <br /><br />I will be until the end! .. All though everyday gets harder that MJ does not BAM! :( <br /><br />With the L.O.V.E xxx
  • CocoCoco Posts: 80
    Does anyone else feel like we're missing something, in this hoax? Big or small. I feel like we're missing something (a clue or whatever) signifant and therefore we're not really making any progress/preventing us from moving forward... Or maybe waiting is part of it...<br /><br />What do you guys think/feel?
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
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    <br />Does anyone else feel like we're missing something, in this hoax? Big or small. I feel like we're missing something (a clue or whatever) signifant and therefore we're not really making any progress/preventing us from moving forward... Or maybe waiting is part of it...<br /><br />What do you guys think/feel?<br />
    <br /><br />It's funny you ask this....I was thinking along these same lines yesterday.  LOL...my first thought right now, was, "...heck yeah we're missing something.....Michael!" <br />But, seriously....yes, we are obviously missing something here.  My instincts tell me that all of the, "hows" can be figured out if we just learn to look with our eyes.....fully.  Like a magic trick, we can figure out most of it.  We might not be able to see the actual equipment used, but, still the basics of the "hows" can be determined.  I think these videos hold all that we need to know:  <br />-backing ambulance<br />-the helicopter flight/transfer to coroner <br />-memorial<br />-funeral<br />The press conference for This Is It and the movie This Is It hold their own set of values.  Perhaps they hold the symbolisms of the, "whys" involved.  Along with the Dave-Dave video, the misc. tribute concerts, books etc.<br />When it comes down to it, we have simmered (i.e. waited) a very long time.  However, that is part of it for sure.  In that time, look at all we have done and learned:<br />-created videos, blogs, websites (creative thinking outside the box....always a good thing)<br />-read millions of words about Michael's life, music, injustices, and innocence<br />-shared our thoughts on forums like this, allowing us to think freely<br />-have studied numerous subjects in great depth (all religions, the Bible, art, music, world history, literature, cultures..and more) <br />-have been able to relate to and with Michael on a level like never before (true escapism and talent) <br /><br />In the words of Michael himself , "this is it, this is truly it...." We are, "It" I think we have done and are still doing, "It" very well.  <br />If we manage to hang in there and continue down this path, I truly believe we are in store for the most brilliant comeback of modern times.  If anyone could pull this off, it's Michael.  He's the only one that thinks this big.  So yes, we are missing something....somewhere.  Perhaps it's only because Michael wants us to.  We have been shown much to prove this is a hoax.  Things still do not add up for me....the family, the friends, the professionals involved....different stories, reactions, timings etc.....<br /><br />What we are missing, we will surely come to find, it's only a matter of time.........like the ambulance video.  I have long suspected the ambulance video to hold the first clues/keys to see that all is not what it appears.  From the moment I first saw the video in 2009, I knew it.  I just can't explain it....shadows, angles, people, reflections, items......all change in mere split seconds.  It's like waking from a dream...you can see things, but can not vocalize them.  <br /><br />I did find this video interesting....it's supposedly an audio of the paramedics inside the ambulance, take a listen:<br /><br />
    <br /><br />One of the voices sounds vary familiar, lol.  That would be so Michaelish.  <br />There are many, many uploads of that original Hollywood.TV backing out ambulance.  Each one seems slightly different...able to veiw things because of how they are filmed....some even filmed right off the TV itself.  In the back of my mind, I have always felt Michael may have released many of these videos himself.....very slight differences in each uploaded video.  I have watched many side by side...but can only do so much with what I have.  I also have watched/listened to that video at 1/4 speed...it's amazing that you can clearly hear other things.  If you have the capability...listen to it slowly.  Sometimes,  YouTube has a button on it, sometimes not...really odd.<br />Here is the original video:<br /><br />
    <br /><br />Wow....well this turned longer than I thought, sorry about that.  I fall into the hole and eventually come out, lol........<br />short answer, Coco....yes, we are missing something.  Are we meant to find it really.....who knows.  However, I will keep searching...my mind wants me to, my heart needs me to.  Michael, I'd give you all the gold rings off the carousel for just one more solid, old-fashioned clue to make our hearts sing.  What could we be missing?  <br /><br />Thank you Coco....great question, great post........<br />Blessings to you!<br />LOVE
  • on 1331631619:
    <br />Does anyone else feel like we're missing something, in this hoax? Big or small. I feel like we're missing something (a clue or whatever) signifant and therefore we're not really making any progress/preventing us from moving forward... Or maybe waiting is part of it...<br /><br />What do you guys think/feel?<br />
    <br /><br />Hi Coco - I agree that we are missing something (besides the obvious :) ).<br /><br />I go back to the first question mark in my mind and that was when I saw Jermaine give his speech at the hospital and Brian Oxman running around like a woman telling a story. I didn't beLIEve at that point. Then it made my head go sideways when I saw Michael, er, I mean, Dave Dave, on LKL. I had to do a double take but thought it was my grief getting in the way of judgment. Slowly, like everyone else there were more questions than answers and I started searching. In the meantime I've learned a LOT about Michael.<br /><br />By the time I started searching it was December of 2009. Quite a bit had already happened in hoaxland by then.<br /><br />A few of the things I think about now are:<br /><br />Who is BACK and where is he now (I don't believe that Front is Back). <br />Why did he choose that one forum and did Michael really know about this? <br />Why did the admin really delete some of his posts. <br />Will we ever know who BACK is and is he really the key to unlocking this mystery since I think he might have been the official "seed" to starting this hoax.<br /><br />Will Michael come back or is this a way to keep him a mystery and he said he didn't want to die, he wanted to live forever. Did he accomplish that in some way with us?<br /><br />Who are the genius minds behind all of those incredible youtube videos? Are they plants by Michael? They are getting more and more sophisticated and as I watch them I wonder how they were able to piece all of that information together. Do they have lives outside of the hoax? They are incredible.<br /><br />Well, obviously I think we are missing something big that ties this together but I can't even find answer to the questions above so I keep watchin' as BACK said to do in hopes that we haven't been led down a road with no ending.<br /><br />Blessings<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
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    <br />Will Michael come back or is this a way to keep him a mystery and he said he didn't want to die, he wanted to live forever. Did he accomplish that in some way with us?
    <br /><br />This was a big ? for me too, before Murray was found guilty. God knows how much I wanted this verdict as proof!<br /><br />My reasoning is that if Michael Jackson is alive then he will come back, for an innocent man is labeled "MJ's killer" and things can't remain this way forever, but only for a determined period.<br />Who would accept to be remembered as MJ's killer if he's innocent, only to help MJ escape?! Would you?<br />
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    <br />Will Michael come back or is this a way to keep him a mystery and he said he didn't want to die, he wanted to live forever. Did he accomplish that in some way with us?
    <br /><br />This was a big ? for me too, before Murray was found guilty. God knows how much I wanted this verdict as proof!<br /><br />My reasoning is that if Michael Jackson is alive then he will come back, for an innocent man is labeled "MJ's killer" and things can't remain this way forever, but only for a determined period.<br />Who would accept to be remembered as MJ's killer if he's innocent, only to help MJ escape?! Would you?<br /><br />
    <br /><br />You bring up great points. Honestly, I might take the heat for MJ (or someone close to me) if the reasons warranted it.  But, I do agree - I can't see Michael letting an innocent man remain labeled the rest of his life - it's no different than MJ was labeled for being something he wasn't.<br /><br />So then, what are we missing? We have so many brilliant minds here and in hoaxland yet it hasn't been figured out yet. Is it because we're all on the other side of a computer and not 1:1 with the family and close friends? Perhaps it makes it easier with this wall between us.<br /><br />On that same note - I was looking at some old tweets and saw one from MJ's sister Rebbie. It was around December 2010 and she said she was on her way to the airport to pick up Kai Chaise. Hmmm - I thought she was JUST the chef? It's been in the back of my mind and then yesterday I saw Kai comment something to Paris. It was the type of comment (at least to me) that would be made by someone a little closer than a hired help or acquaintance of the family. This is a mystery to me because Kai had said that she didn't know Michael. Well - did she know Rebbie before? I'm sure that Kai had plenty of other people to pick her up from the airport. Yes, Kai comes from an entertainment family but it wasn't promoted as Kai knowing the Jacksons at all.<br /><br />It's probably just my suspicious mind. Blessings :)
  • mindseyemindseye Posts: 980
    I feel the same, we're missing something.  idk maybe Murray didn't follow through on something.... and now he's paying for it.  There's always a great twist in a thriller... maybe that was it. 
  • CocoCoco Posts: 80
    Hm, I feel like the whole case with Murray was meant to mirror Michael's case... Y'know, the whole "Black man being accused of something he didn't do", the clothes that were worn (significance of colours), etc... <br />There were quite a few noticeable parallels between the two trials... <br />I don't know... Sometimes, I feel like there's a really simple solution to all of this and we're looking too far into the hoax. Like, if we just sat back for a bit, dinstanced ourselves... something would become apparent to us, something that we didn't notice before - trying so damn hard to operate every brain cell and figure this out. <br /><br />Could someone remind me of the religious importance/significance in the hoax (in simple terms)? My brain has gone a bit fuzzy on that.<br /><br />And whatever became of TS' puzzle? Or has that just... died? I think it did... Or, did it? :lol:
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    <br />So then, what are we missing? We have so many brilliant minds here and in hoaxland yet it hasn't been figured out yet.
    <br /><br />They were somehow distracted from the HOWs of the hoax to studing the Bible and riddles... and since we don't have the IQs  /toldya/ that would allow us to untie the mystery on our own, I guess we'll have to wait - in the best case scenario, actively.<br /><br />For God's sake, how did he do it, huh?! All those ppl involved... can't be all undercover agents. <br />Not logical, because after everything ends they will have to retire  :lol:
  • diggyondiggyon Posts: 1,376
    [move]update    update    update  update    update    update    update    update    update    update    update[/move]<br /><br />What about an update?<br />Now we have new members on the forum, while others have left us.<br /><br />So I am still here! :smiley-vault-misc-150:
  • dejavudejavu Posts: 330
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  • CyanMoonCyanMoon Posts: 31
    Hello!<br />I'm here every day since 2009!  :icon_albino:
  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    I'm still here too!  Been investigating the hoax since I heard the first report on TV of his "death".  But, I seem to be absorbed by my life, and work and my dobes, and sleep!  ;)  (I have anemia)<br />I pop in and out everyday, hoping our Michael has returned, but also hoping he didn't while I was at work!<br />I know he'll be back, although in the beginning I believed he left to get his own life, make music behind the scenes and just live.<br />Part of me still wonders that, but with all the clues we've had over the years, they'd be unnecessary if he was staying hidden.<br />So to you all my family, I love you and all your intense work here.<br />To you Michael, I love you and not one day goes by that you STILL, as since I found you in 1969, are not a part of my every single day.<br />I'm still here.
  • Hey, count me in! I'm definitely still here! It's just that I mostly read TS & TS_Comments & The Sign's stuff and not much else!! As you can see I just NOW found out about this thread!! Oh, and some of Front and Back thread also! I haven't lost faith in BAM whatsoever!!  :)
  • I'm still here, though unfortunately not as much as I used to be due to my work schedule, but I have recently found the time to start logging back in every day and keeping up with things again.  I can not tell you how much I missed this site when I wasn't able to get onto it for so long.
  • I am still here.  I have been here since November, 2009.  I did not figure out how to join until January 2010.  I don't post much but I enjoy being a part of this special group of nice people.<br /><br />Have a blessed day/evening.
  • LoveunitedLoveunited Posts: 370
    Still here!  Currently revising by looking at contemporaneous books written back in the day.....<br /><br />Log in every day, even tho comment little...... :smiley_abuv:<br /><br />          LoveUnited<br />
  • I'm still here....mostly lurking.  I'm so happy that this site is still going strong  :th_bravo:
  • SEHFSEHF Posts: 954
    i'm here, but not for the same reason i used to be here.
  • Still here and not going anywhere.<br /><br /> :compute:
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
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    <br />i'm here, but not for the same reason i used to be here.<br />
    <br /><br />Care to expound on that?  You have me curious.
  • sandythymesandythyme Posts: 365
    Hi everyone!  I am still here.  I am here for the long run.  Ford, like you Michael has been a part of my life since 1969.  I am not giving up, I believe in the Man!<br />I don't post much, but please know I am devoted to Michael and all of you.  Along with Michael, many of you have made this the thyme of my life and I am grateful.  Thank you Michael and everyone here, this is for sure, hands down the greatest show on earth.  :bearhug:
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