Michael's police booking photo in 2003<br /><br /><br /><br />D.L. picture TMZ claims was filed in 2005 <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I stumbled onto an article that was posted the day Michael's new license photo was "taken"...<br /><br /><br />Rulings On Seized Items<br /><br />Judge Rodney Melville ruled on Thursday July 21, 2005 that most items seized from Michael Jackson's Neverland Valley Ranch should be returned - but not photos of the singer's genitalia.<br /><br />Prosecutor Tom Sneddon did not want the photos returned:<br /><br /> "I don't believe it would be appropriate for the court to consider (releasing) them. They were never entered into evidence." <br /><br />The judge agreed with Sneddon:<br /><br /> "I think (the photographs) are subject to the 1993 order and not subject to this court's order. I will be making an order that they will be maintained under the previous order." <br /><br />The judge said a prior order dictates that those images must remain locked in a safe-deposit box.<br /><br />Sneddon also said he opposed returning what he characterized as "contraband" seized from Neverland, near Los Olivos, during the search.<br /><br /> "Demerol, syringes, clothing that contained Demerol," Sneddon said, listing the items at Judge Melville's request. "There was a number of prescriptions that were in other people's names." <br /><br />Sneddon said the prescriptions were for Xanax and various antibiotics, and that one of the prescriptions was in the name of a Neverland employee.<br /><br />Judge Melville ruled that items seized from Neverland and not entered into evidence, including about nine computers, should be returned.<br /><br /> "Anything you have seized that was not brought to court and was not contraband, should be returned to Mr. Jackson." <br /><br />The judge also ruled that all other seized items should be returned to their owner, after the media has time to examine them. However, Melville indicated he would not allow reporters to view numerous videotapes featuring Jackson, the accuser's family or both.<br /><br /> "Those have privacy issues and copyright issues and in all likelihood, I would not order their release."<br /><br />Sneddon said he was concerned about returning adult magazines seized from Neverland, because the items underwent a chemical fingerprinting process.<br /><br /> "They bear a seal on the binder that say they are toxic. I believe there should be some kind of a release signed by Mr. Jackson ... if he or one of his children has a toxic reaction to one of those materials." <br /><br />Sneddon also indicated that the boy and the family who accused Jackson of conspiracy and child molestation wanted some of their possessions returned, including a jacket and watch that Jackson gave the youth. <br /><br />The family also requested the return of their passports, birth certificates and visas, along with applications for those materials. They also wanted several photographs and books returned.<br /><br />Michael Jackson's defense had petitioned for the return of all items seized from the singer. Attorney Stephen Dunkle represented Jackson in court Thursday, but did not make oral arguments.<br /><br /> "The District Attorney and the Sheriff's Department are not entitled to retain seized property," Dunkle wrote in his motion. "...This case is over. Law enforcement is merely holding the seized materials for the Court and has no independent right of possession." <br /><br />Source: MJFC / Santa Maria Times
<br />It reminded me of Front's post talking about Michael being the driver of the hoax-coach and that Michael will get us all home safely <br /><br />:icon_cool: :icon_albino:<br />
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<br />Speaking of the BAM, this is a stretch, I know, but it's Christmas Eve and I am relaxing & having a bit of fun tonight whilst cooking, having a glass of nice wine and wrapping pressies.......anyone notice this in the article (scroll down):<br /><br /> :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />[size=18pt]MICHAEL JACKSON'S<br />DRIVER'S LICENSE<br />Stone-Faced Stare[/size]<br /><br />12/24/2012 1:00 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF<br /><br /><br /><br />TMZ has obtained the last driver's license photo Michael Jackson ever took-- <br />a big change from the singer's cheery license photo from the 1980s.<br /><br />The latest photo was taken in 2005 -- four years before the King of Pop's <br />untimely death -- and you can tell from the harrowing image ... MJ had become <br />a tortured soul.<br /><br /><br /><br />An image of MJ's 1980s driver's license was released by the FBI shortly after <br />[size=14pt]M[/size]ichael died -- as part of the agency's massive file on the singer. The Bureau <br />compiled the dossier during its investigation into child sex allegations involving <br />the singer back in the 90s.<br /><br /><br /><br />[size=14pt]A[/size]s you can see, Michael was a much different person back then -- smiling <br />[size=14pt]b[/size]rightly for his photo at the DMV.<br /><br />Of course, it's not like MJ ever put the license to much use -- he was pretty <br />much exclusively chauffeured around, especially in the later years of his life.<br /><br />Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/24/michael-jackson-drivers-license/#ixzz2FxV42iDk<br />
<br />[/quote] <br /><br />I see what you are saying Adi - driving backwards and taking his own sweet time. <br /><br />
[size=10pt][/size]@Snoopy71 - It always bugged me why Sneddon didn't want to release the photos to Michael. Why on earth would they want to keep them? God I can't stand that slug of a man. :icon_mad:
<br />[size=10pt][/size]@Snoopy71 - It always bugged me why Sneddon didn't want to release the photos to Michael. Why on earth would they want to keep them? God I can't stand that slug of a man. :icon_mad:<br />
<br /><br />Maybe the Estate should sue for infringment :icon_rolleyes: (...kidding)
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
MJ Official FB page - CAR WAVING... The "driver" is on his way? now that TMZ found his latest driver's license? lmao )) :thjajaja121:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />MJ Official FB page - CAR WAVING... The "driver" is on his way? now that TMZ found his latest driver's license? lmao )) :thjajaja121:<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />I'm so excited... I hope this is it! *No disappointments* :penguin:
I DO believe in Michael, I DO believe in Michael, I DO believe in Michael, I DO believe in Michael, I DO believe in Michael, I DO believe in Michael, I DO believe in Michael. <br /><br />
@gwynned: Is that the link to your tweeter? (DeepInside777?)<br /><br /><br />@bonnie2013: I hope so too!! :bowdown:<br /><br /><br /><br />Happy New BAMtastyK Year to everyone here!<br />hugssssssss :bearhug:<br />
<br />MJ Official FB page - CAR WAVING... The "driver" is on his way? now that TMZ found his latest driver's license? lmao )) :thjajaja121:<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br /><br /><br /> I ABSOLUTELY L.O.V.E THE PICTURE,THANX SimPattyK :bearhug: you're the best
Lol I have just posted that MJ's pic on the MJ's facebook thread and I said that Michael is waving at us, I think that's a good presentiment! :woohoo2: :multiplespotting:<br /><br />Enjoy tonight!! Have a Happy New Year 2013!!
<br />@gwynned: Is that the link to your tweeter? (DeepInside777?)<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />Nope. Someone else posted it this morning and it was JUST what I have been feeling. I don't know about anyone else, but I've hardly been able to do anything but hang out around here, clutching that wishing star along with any clue that points to a BAM. I've been avoiding people because my mind is so preoccupied and the source of my sadness so absurd (to them!) that, frankly, I don't want them to think I'm even crazier than they think I am.<br /><br />Thanks to everyone for simply being here. :bearhug:
gwynnedBillie JSnoopy71: well said!! :icon_lol: Round of Applause for whomever is behind all the official pages/sites/accounts for all the lovely "whispers" !! :icon_e_wink: :th_bravo:<br /><br />
Always happy to think/feel/beLIEve that Michael is in Pole position! The facebook page rocks big time!<br /><br />[size=18pt]HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL FROM A RAINY SWEDEN![/size]<br /><br /> /><br /><br />TITANIA
You mean you think this is only for marketing purposes?<br />So whomever is behind that MJ-FB page is only manipulating us into believing that this is part of Michael's hoax?<br />That would mean you think Michael is dead?
You mean you think this is only for marketing purposes?<br />So whomever is behind that MJ-FB page is only manipulating us into believing that this is part of Michael's hoax?<br />That would mean you think Michael is dead?<br />
<br /><br />@SimPatty ....I love how you think, you read between the lines and see what isn't being said. :icon_mrgreen:<br /><br /><br />....for the record...No, I personally do not believe Michael is dead, never did.....but I also do not believe everyone is pure of motive either.<br /><br /><br />Perception$ are very personal, doesn't make them true or untrue....<br />
You mean you think this is only for marketing purposes?<br />So whomever is behind that MJ-FB page is only manipulating us into believing that this is part of Michael's hoax?<br />That would mean you think Michael is dead?<br />
<br /><br />@SimPatty ....I love how you think, you read between the lines and see what isn't being said. :icon_mrgreen:<br /><br /><br />....for the record...No, I personally do not believe Michael is dead, never did.....but I also do not believe everyone is pure of motive either.<br /><br /><br />Perception$ are very personal, doesn't make them true or untrue....<br />
yes I know.... and I agree.... about perceptions....
<br />[...]<br />....for the record...No, I personally do not believe Michael is dead, never did.....but I also do not believe everyone is pure of motive either.<br />[...]
Ok. But if Michael is alive, then that means he's not fully in control of his own official websites?<br />Do you think that while he is indeed alive , someone else is messing around on his account? Someone who might take advantage of the fact that, officially, Michael is still being "dead" to the world ? and they advertise his websites to take credit and money out of them?<br />Otherwise I don't see how nor why would there be "non-pure motives" behind all these blatant hoax-whispers that we've been receiving so far...<br />I think Michael is well behind everything.<br />But then again, as you said, to each, his own perception. :icon_e_wink:
<br />[...]<br />....for the record...No, I personally do not believe Michael is dead, never did.....but I also do not believe everyone is pure of motive either.<br />[...]
Ok. But if Michael is alive, then that means he's not fully in control of his own official websites?<br />Do you think that while he is indeed alive , someone else is messing around on his account? Someone who might take advantage of the fact that, officially, Michael is still being "dead" to the world ? and they advertise his websites to take credit and money out of them?<br />Otherwise I don't see how nor why would there be "non-pure motives" behind all these blatant hoax-whispers that we've been receiving so far...<br />I think Michael is well behind everything.<br />But then again, as you said, to each, his own perception. :icon_e_wink:<br />
<br /><br />There are believers and non believers alike correct? So a $mart person would play both sides of the fence. <br /><br />I think Michael loves ALL his fans no matter their beliefs.<br /><br />What his fans choose to personally believe is their own prerogative.<br /><br />Michael is not penalizing anyone for their choice...Believe he is alive or Believe he is dead...he is going to reach out to everyone of his fans the same way.<br /><br /><br />Where a believer will perceive a "clue" or "whisper" and non believer will see a "promo" or "endorsement"....both keep him "Alive" literally/figuratively.<br /><br /><br />...and it's not just MJ Facebook.... There is a whole network in place running this machine and yes there is a profit to be made from this on all sides.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Then again I'm a realist...so it could just be my perception :icon_e_wink:<br />
But who said that Michael doesn't love all the fans ? (believers or non-believers)? We were not talking about that. At least not me.<br />In your previous message you said you believe Michael is alive. In this one above ^^ you talk from a non believer position... that iis a little bit confusing...<br /><br />But anyway, regardless of what you are (believer or non-believer), in the end, yes I agree, from a believer perspective, Michael is behind those whispers, but from a non-believer perception, there is manipulation.
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."