<br /> <br /><br />This picture seems to me as recent as this <br /><br /><br />
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<br /><br />Maybe his giving us a stone faced stare..maybe he disapproved of the bickering?.. who knows? <br /><br />personally I don't think it matters who was or wasn't MJ in pictures, does it change anything at all? if the O2 guy wasn't him... does it give us new leads? if the photo of michael in license was not actually michael does it give us new clues to investigate more? JMO
<br /><br />as we all know Michael bleached his skin to not have his skin lighter. So how does it explain his face is full of blotches. Those blotches shouldn't be there. Is this really Michael? Just saying.<br />
<br /><br />Well yes and no. Even as Michael tried to even out his skin tone due to the vitiligo, blotches would still exist. I think that lighting also has a big effect in the picture as well. Depending on the lighting, shadows and skin flaws may be more prominent, esp if he wasn't wearing makeup.
So this whole saying of "stone face" seems odd to me......so I dug around. Turns out a few different things I found made me <br />think the TMZ chose that very carefully. There is the region on Mars of the stone face:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_(region_of_Mars)<br /><br />there are the granite cliffs in New Hampshire:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain<br /><br />there is "The Great Stone Face" actor, Buster Keaton:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buster_Keaton<br /><br />*I find him interesting because of Michael's love of film (he was also in an episode of The Twilight Zone)<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Time_(The_Twilight_Zone)<br />he was also in the final episode of the television version of The Greatest Show on Earth:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Show_on_Earth_(TV_series)<br /><br />there is also Nathaniel Hawthorne's work about The Great Stone Face itself:<br />http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/nhawthorne/bl-nhaw-greatst.htm<br /><br />All in all, I think we were given that phrase for a reason.....Michael's face is not all that stone like to me.<br />A stone face shows no emotion....to me there is plenty of emotion, I am just trying to figure which emotion<br />I am to see.........any thoughts? Or am I barking up the wrong tree, lol...........<br /><br />Blessings!<br />
<br />So this whole saying of "stone face" seems odd to me......so I dug around. Turns out a few different things I found made me <br />think the TMZ chose that very carefully. There is the region on Mars of the stone face:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_(region_of_Mars)<br /><br />there are the granite cliffs in New Hampshire:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain<br /><br />there is "The Great Stone Face" actor, Buster Keaton:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buster_Keaton<br /><br />*I find him interesting because of Michael's love of film (he was also in an episode of The Twilight Zone)<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Time_(The_Twilight_Zone)<br />he was also in the final episode of the television version of The Greatest Show on Earth:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Show_on_Earth_(TV_series)<br /><br />there is also Nathaniel Hawthorne's work about The Great Stone Face itself:<br />http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/nhawthorne/bl-nhaw-greatst.htm<br /><br />All in all, I think we were given that phrase for a reason.....Michael's face is not all that stone like to me.<br />A stone face shows no emotion....to me there is plenty of emotion, I am just trying to figure which emotion<br />I am to see.........any thoughts? Or am I barking up the wrong tree, lol...........<br /><br />Blessings!<br />
<br /><br />he looks impatient... like he has places to go, people to see and the whole having his picture taken was taking too long, a general annoyance, I see that expression a lot on another look, is there a slight smirk?
<br />So this whole saying of "stone face" seems odd to me......so I dug around. Turns out a few different things I found made me <br />think the TMZ chose that very carefully. There is the region on Mars of the stone face:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_(region_of_Mars)<br /><br />there are the granite cliffs in New Hampshire:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Mountain<br /><br />there is "The Great Stone Face" actor, Buster Keaton:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buster_Keaton<br /><br />*I find him interesting because of Michael's love of film (he was also in an episode of The Twilight Zone)<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Time_(The_Twilight_Zone)<br />he was also in the final episode of the television version of The Greatest Show on Earth:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Show_on_Earth_(TV_series)<br /><br />there is also Nathaniel Hawthorne's work about The Great Stone Face itself:<br />http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/nhawthorne/bl-nhaw-greatst.htm<br /><br />All in all, I think we were given that phrase for a reason.....Michael's face is not all that stone like to me.<br />A stone face shows no emotion....to me there is plenty of emotion, I am just trying to figure which emotion<br />I am to see.........any thoughts? Or am I barking up the wrong tree, lol...........<br /><br />Blessings!<br />
<br /><br />he looks impatient... like he has places to go, people to see and the whole having his picture taken was taking too long, a general annoyance, I see that expression a lot on another look, is there a slight smirk?<br />
<br /><br />Yes....a slight smirk behind those eyes, on those lips for sure......he's up to something......at least that's what I see, lol. <br />This was a supposed driver's license.......not a mug shot. I don't know know too many people who take great DL photos......<br />good-golly I had to take my last one when I was pregnant....so not fair to a hormone-raging sack of emotions! Not my finest <br />moment for sure........barring the fact that I am sure Michael wasn't pregnant at the time of the picture, and he's totally capable<br />of making any photo gorgeous...I am sure this "look" is on purpose.......stone face, not so much for me. A face of a thousand <br />looks, emotions and thoughts........Michael can use his bodacious good looks in many ways...this is one of many photos that<br />proves it for me. <br /><br />Great post and thoughts leilani....THANK YOU : ) <br />Blessings Always<br />LOVE<br />
[...]<br />All in all, I think we were given that phrase for a reason.....Michael's face is not all that stone like to me.<br />A stone face shows no emotion....to me there is plenty of emotion, I am just trying to figure which emotion<br />I am to see.........any thoughts? Or am I barking up the wrong tree, lol...........<br /><br />Blessings!
he looks impatient... like he has places to go, people to see and the whole having his picture taken was taking too long, a general annoyance, I see that expression a lot on another look, is there a slight smirk?
WoW Wishy! amazing links!! thanks for that research!! i also thought there was something about the title that we needed to catch up on! I think you just did!<br /><br />Regarding the photo, as I said from the beginning, I think it's a recent photo of Michael! [I mean more recent than 2009 :icon_geek: :icon_e_wink: ] and I think it was done intentionally NOT to fit the required standards for such an ID document, and all to make it obvious it's a fake driver's license, signature missing, format doesn't not correspond with the normal one! plus we have numerology clues, so it just simply CAN't be a legal DL! possibly some photoshop work on it, too, I'm not sure though...<br />- there's not enough light, which can totally deform a person's face, by throwing shadows here and there, which covers the distinct facial features;<br />- there's too much hair on his face for a "legaL" photo lol<br />- his face is downwards , while it should be upwards (chin up) , that's how they make you pose for such photos, so that your face is visible!<br />- and his expression is that of a naughty prankster lol like like he's thinking: "OK, let's see if they [us] can figure this out! will my dear hoaxers recognize me? hee hee Will my enemies laugh and gossip me? heehee How many people will actually eat my doughnut and believe that this is a legal document? hee hee OMG! I'll have so much fun watching people's reactions! ) " :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_geek:
"eat my doughnut" <br /> :thjajaja121:<br />I have never heard that...but love it!!! Going to be used a lot by me, lol.......<br /><br />Thanks for the post, Sim......just some thoughts.....<br /><br />HUGS!!!!<br /><br />PS> love love love your new sig, Sim......never feel blue when I see them together<br />like that! Beautiful....<br />
lmao Wishy :icon_lol: :icon_lol: That's actually a Romanian expression :icon_lol:<br />Here when someone is trying to play pranks/fool people, we say that person is "selling doughnuts" and the person who falls for it/believes it, is the one who "eats it/swallows it" loll :icon_lol:<br /><br />yep! I have 2 blue angels in my sig, can't help smiling at them :-*
even with skin bleeching, Michael still has a few patches of dark pigmentation.<br /><br /><br /> :Pulling_hair: screw you vitiligo!!!! Sorry talking about my own here not, MJs. It Sux! Struggling at the moment in summer, keeping it out of sun is so hard. Esp on hands and face.<br /><br />
<br />At the bottom of the licence is a notice indicating it is a copy, hence the lack of a signature and other details - height, weight and address<br /><br />" I hereby certify that the document to which this is affixed is a true copy of the records of the Department of Motor Vehicles". <br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Here is a section from the DMV website giving the information about obtaining a copy<br /><br />maybe TMZ was able to obtain a copy perhaps via a family member or another one of their sources<br /><br />How to get a copy of someone else's driver license, ID card, vehicle or vessel record<br /><br />Vehicle, vessel, driver license and identification (ID) card records are open to public inspection. Confidential information, such as social security numbers and residence addresses, may only be disclosed to a court, law enforcement agency or other individual when they are authorized by a specific federal or state statute.<br /><br />To request vehicle registration record or driver license/identification card record information, complete a Request for Record Information INF 70 form.<br /><br />Effective March 24, 2010, casual requestors cannot immediately obtain information from his/her spouse, minor child, or registered domestic partner. If you wish to obtain the vehicle registration record or driver license/identification card record information of your spouse, minor child, or registered domestic partner, please complete an INF 70 .<br /><br />Mail your request with the appropriate fees (provided on form) to:<br /><br />Department of Motor Vehicles <br />Public Operations, Unit-G199 <br />P. O. BOX 944247 <br />Sacramento, California 94244-2470.<br /><br />The form must be submitted to DMV headquarters in Sacramento for processing as the law requires DMV send a copy of the request form to the subject of record.<br /><br />NOTE: You will not receive residence address information unless a state or federal statute is cited and approved by code name and section number that authorizes or requires the release.<br /><br />http://www.dmv.ca.gov/faq/genfaq.htm<br /><br /><br />
voiceforthesilent<br />December 25, 2012, 11:08:06 AM »<br />Oh my gosh - is there ever a time where we will see pictures from the same era and all agree that it is or isn't Michael? LOL - I, for one, haven't believe for years that we've seen the real Michael every single time and these two pictures are no diferent. The only other explanation is that Michael deliberately [size=18pt]changes[/size] his appearance.
<br /><br />Touche :th_bravo:!!!!<br />We are watching The Master at work for a long time now ;D . <br />If you have seen something before, your mind does not consider it important to see it again, and does not let you see it; it edits your life.But in Michael's case is the opposite ,he is always transforming everything,changing things and makes you wanting for more.When you see a rose through the mind, you do not see it as it truly is. Your mind does this with everything, unless it perceives it as New, Special, or Dangerous .<br />
<br /><br />Yes, Applehead - brilliant explanation. Michael knows human nature and because of this, along with his desire to give the greatest show on earth, we've been seeing the master at work since he was young (old enough to call his own shots). Speaking solely on his appearances, I cannot get out of my mind reading of when Ramone Baine recalled seeing MJ on TV for his famous mug photo shot and the words of one who had spent the night before at Neverland with him - saying, "that is not the same Michael". :icon_lol:<br /><br />Yes, we can laugh because we've come to the see the truth in it - at least it makes the most sense of all. And, yes, Michael without makeup is extremely handsome.<br /><br />I wonder if that is why they put a picture of one of the impersonators on the stone tribute in Gary, IN. To further fuel the thought of "is it or isn't it". :smiley-vault-misc-150:<br /><br /><br />
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<br />welcome back apple!<br />
<br /><br /><br />Voice and Australian thank you very much for the nice words,you are both so kind...... always :-* :bearhug: !!!!!
<br /><br />The picture below was taken in March 2005 , the same year the picture TMZ published was taken . ( or so it is claimed ) <br /><br /> <br /><br />Does the 2005 picture match the picture that TMZ posted ? Of course not , because it wasn't taken in 2005 ! and I believe that it was taken for hoaxy matters and not for a DL !
This is just one of the things he does to alter appearance, lipstick outside his actual lips. It adds to public's confusion. :michael_jackson-1135:<br /><br /><br />
<br />He has tattooed makeup on his eyes and lips.<br />
<br /><br />Are you sure about that ? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I can find you thousands of pictures in which he posed without having his makeup on ! <br />
Yeah.. sweetsunset. How are you so sure to say MJ has tattooed make-up on his eyes? The only place I've heard that was the autopsy. :icon_e_confused: :icon_e_smile:
<br />He has tattooed makeup on his eyes and lips.<br />
<br /><br />Are you sure about that ? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I can find you thousands of pictures in which he posed without having his makeup on ! <br /><br />
<br /><br />Yes... Michael does have tattooed eye liner and lip liner. Michael wrote about it in his autobiography "Moonwalker." It was written sometime in the '80s.
<br />Do you believe what he said or do you believe what you see?<br />
<br /><br />I so wanna believe him but my eyes can't be lying ! can they ?<br /><br />Suppose he had the eyeliner tattooed , why wouldn't he say it in the inteview in which he aslo said he didn't do anything else to change his body except the nose job, and his skin disorder vitiligo which he couldn't control since it was genetic or either resulted from the shocks or depression of childhood. <br /><br />But again , maybe he wasn't talking about a permanent tattoo !
Tattoo=permanent so no, he was quite clear.<br /><br />Suppose he lied. So what? Why shouldn't he lie? Who's business is it anyway? And what does it matter if he has tattooed eyeliner or not? Do you see what I'm saying?<br /><br />TS may be slippery but MJ is the slipperiest one of them all.
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