<br />I give up, I guess it's too much out of the box for people. I tried 3 years ago and got the same responses. I see two different MJ's, it's not only obvious in pictures and videos, but in many lyrics as well. Just as the signatures on the AEG contract, the LA / NYC mystery and so much more. I don't believe either of them died BTW, so that to me is not a problem. We'll see.<br />
<br /><br />Souza, I'm very much open to the possibility of two Michaels, it is very much possible. For whatever reason, Michael could have had a stand by, even though the purpose is purely for creating illusion. [size=8pt](but illusion for whom?, them? )[/size]<br /><br />nothing is impossible ... <br /><br />
<br />Michael big eyes, Michael curvy eyes. Michael short chin, Michael long chin. Michael short, Michael tall, Michael high voice, Michael low voice. Who is it?<br />
<br /><br />Latest plastic surgeries that Michael underwent such as lifting made his eyes to look slanted whereas his natural eyes were rounded so when he was young had rounded eyes and the older he got more slanted eyes was getting furthermore in his latest plastic surgeries he lengthened his chin and underlined his dimple, so the chin from his 80s/90s is different than his chin from his 2000s. Michael's face when he was young was rounded however now his face is longer, maybe he thought he would look more attractive with a longer chin.<br />I know there are many Michael's impersonators but in all those pics you can find only Michael.<br />
<br /><br />Ok, explain the pics below then. Round eyed/short chin MJ from Thriller to HIStory, curvy eyed/long chin MJ from Thriller to HIStory... Both definitely MJ, but wtf? <br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />I mean come on when somebody smiles the chin become more elongate and the eyes get longer, on the pics above he is serious so his eyes and chin are rounded however on the pics below is just the other way around.<br />
<br />You ignored the pics I posted where he didn't smile, but it's okay. It's a taboo for many.<br />
<br /><br />Oh no the thing was I saw your second post with no smiling MJ's pics after I post the above sentence, I see many Michaels every time but that happens to me too I have pics where my face is different than on the other and I look better or worst depending on the day I think that happens too everyone and of course make up makes the rest but I still don't see two Michaels.
<br />I give up, I guess it's too much out of the box for people. I tried 3 years ago and got the same responses. I see two different MJ's, it's not only obvious in pictures and videos, but in many lyrics as well. Just as the signatures on the AEG contract, the LA / NYC mystery and so much more. I don't believe either of them died BTW, so that to me is not a problem. We'll see.<br />
<br /><br />Souza, I'm very much open to the possibility of two Michaels, it is very much possible. For whatever reason, Michael could have had a stand by, even though the purpose is purely for creating illusion. [size=8pt](but illusion for whom?, them? )[/size]<br /><br />nothing is impossible ... <br /><br /><br />
<br /><br /><br /><br />I find it so hard to tell!! If there have been two MJ's for years then I must just be so used to seeing both that I believe both to be the one and only MJ, lol. No doubt he would've used doubles for certain things, it's a fact that he would sometimes use one to say leave through the front door while he sneaked out the back (front and back haha). But I still believe that the differences we see in certain photographs could've been deliberate and I think Michael had a lot of control over certain pics, how they would look, like this one (below). It's air brushed, perhaps photo-shopped in a few spots and it's true that there is also always the questions of lighting, angles, make up, hair, head tilt, etc. I don't know, it could be my stubbornness to my belief that MJ is irreplaceable.<br /><br /><br />
From the official MJ FB page, just now: <br /><br />Promo Ads: Check out this two-page promo ad for the single “Stranger In Moscow”!<br /><br /><br /><br /> :icon_e_biggrin: :icon_lol: :icon_albino:<br />
I had written it long time ago that i think there are two Michael. I love to hear music when i go to bed, with closed eyes and very loud and i heard the Album " Michael ".<br />Everytime when the song " Best of Joy " came i get so confused after the first seconds.....when he sang " wasn't it i who.....i got nervoes....the voice...so different and when i look at the lyrics...we need each other....<br />It was like a dialog between longtime friends. Was i got silly in this hoax and am i the only one who feels so ????<br />Here are the lyrics:<br />http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/bestofjoy.html<br /><br />Now i love the song...but it had taken some time.<br /><br />With LOVE :bearhug:
<br />I am sure we won't find 2 pictures of MJ that look exactly the same! You know why? Because all celebrities have photographers who know how to use "Photoshop, the Great", or may be a similar program to produce the best photo ever made! Sometimes it's a challenge for them too. Every photographer knows how to use a camera and get some shadows in a photograph. But only those who know how to make your photograph look way better than your picture in the mirror are the best ones of course. With photo editing programs the features can be changed completely. The face can be lifted, the eyes can be rounded, the nose shape can be changed too. This doesn't mean the MJ has had hundreds of plastic surgeries. It only means, at least for me, that his official photos have been edited, that's all. I've seen a couple of photos of Paris. <br /><br /><br /><br />Now this one:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Or even this one ( a recent pic)<br /><br /><br /><br />So can anyone tell me what happened to her chin?? Plastic surgery??? No way, she's only 14!! Then what happened to her chin?? How come it became so thin in the first picture??<br /><br />It's called photo editing!!<br />
<br /><br /><br />I perfectly know of photo-editing . Photo editing will happen in the times of official Photoshoots.<br /><br />check this link : http://rollingout.com/entertainment/10-most-airbrushed-celebrities/<br /><br />In this link all the photos are from photoshoots ...you can't edit a photo at any award appearance.<br />Most of the photos we compare with are of Michael's appearances / candids...We cannot compare any photo with the official photo shoots.<br /><br />And it's not even so impossible for Michael to have impersonators...there are many MJ impersonators, Michael could have chosen one he thinks is best, could have enhanced his Michael-ish-ness.<br /><br />It's not wrong to entertain a thought without actually believing it. We are just checking out the possibilities..<br />
<br /><br />I totally agree with you. The photos of public appearances cannot be edited like the official photo shoots unless they appear in a magazine or on a web site. One of my friends is a graphic designer and he told me that each and every photo that appears in a magazine, a book, a flyer, on the internet etc... has to be edited in a way. Backgroud changes, darkening, lightning, changing color balance and so on........ even changing some facial expressions can be possible too!!! I also believe that MJ had many impersonators working for him. So it's hard to tell whether a certain photo is his or not. If he really had a twin brother, he wouldn't have hired impersonators!! JMHO.
<br />Just like the good-old days! :icon_lol:<br />Countless countless times through these 3 1/2 years I'd find some pic and think, he looks different here. Then I couldn't resist pulling out pics to compare, and then every time--no, it's him but I can't put my finger on it. It's almost like he has a putty face and can stretch and pull and do things to slightly alter things. But they are still him---same voice within reason, since he could talk with several tones of voice, same mannerisms, personality, body walk, etc.<br /><br />The only thing I'm always brought back to is the movie Prestige, where in the end we find he did the disappearing acts because he had a twin, hidden all through the years, than had even chopped off one finger to look the same. We've discussed so many times whether the Jackson's, before they were famous, could have hidden a twin that no one would know about. Then to co-ordinate the 2 all through the years so they are never seen by the wrong people. Then it would be that one of the twins actually died on June 25, no DWD, but KJ's real son. Then this is no hoax. And for all those who love him, we would grieve somewhat, but rejoice that we still have one left, because if they were twins, they are so completely indistinguishable one from the other, that we love them equally!<br /><br />I thought many many times about that scenario, but I simply cannot see how that could have been carried out, when so many thousands of people were involved in his life all the time. And where did that other one go, when the main one had things happening--Neverland, Lisa, PPB, road-shows. The co-ordination would be unimaginable. I know we talked of KJ maybe being pregnant when MJ was born, so MJ's birthdate was wrong, the whole thing with Brandon--Marlon's twin, young MJ with the cheek scar and the other not, on and on. But the conclusion I came to was that MJ has planned for 20+ years to fool us, and wants us to think that there are 2 of him, an illusion by means of surgery, make-up, weight gain/loss, 2 middle names, well-staged pics with lighting, heels or not, wigs, some usage of doubles to mislead but who up close never look much like MJ, on and on. He truly is a MASTER illusionist! It's never been done on this scale. He literally has the whole world fooled, his fans, and perhaps even most hard-core hoaxers. But this is just my opinion. And yes, it has kept me awake at night--thanks MJ! :icon_lol: I love you anyway! :icon_razz:<br />
<br /><br />MJonmind, your theory about a possible twin COULD explain the quote on the This Is It-album: ' Always great to sing with my brother'. I always found it very weird, like: Which brother do you mean Mike?? You have five of them! <br />The twin-theory goes beyond my imagination, but hey this whole hoax does!
This is what I found on youtube regarding your theory, MJonmind, although i find it hard to believer!<br /><br />
<br /><br /> I saw this video. If Michael Jackson had a twin brother, don't you think we would have known it by now? Why would the Jackson's hide a twin brother of Michael Jackson?
<br /><br />why only two then ? why not three or four knowing that Michael had a LOT of impersonators ! <br /><br /><br /><br />@JesusLover05 and most importantly : "how" would they hide him ?
Lol, some people are so mad. For the record: I did not say impersonator. I've seen more than one of those and impersonators are not on album covers or in videos.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
<br />Lol, some people are so mad. For the record: I did not say impersonator. I've seen more than one of those and impersonators are not on album covers or in videos.<br />
<br /><br />Right! I am not talking about impersonators either. I would not necessarily consider or call him a twin but maybe he´s kin :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />
There could be the possibility that Michael called his very official double his twin brother but only figuratively and this double could have been used in more occasions than we thought?.
~Souza~<br />« Reply #3818 on: September 16, 2011, 11:08:02 AM »<br />@Front, I heard [size=24pt]Mike is a terrible driver[/size]. You sure he will take us home safe and sound? <br />
:<br /><br />I really don't think so,lol :LolLolLolLol: and Michael's driving teacher John Diggs will tell you the same :icon_mrgreen: !!!!!<br /><br /><br /> <br />.....btw very nice picture :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:
<br />Lol, some people are so mad. For the record: I did not say impersonator. I've seen more than one of those and impersonators are not on album covers or in videos.<br />
<br /><br />Right! I am not talking about impersonators either. I would not necessarily consider or call him a twin but maybe he´s kin :icon_e_wink:<br />
<br /><br />Interesting thought of you guys! Please tell me more, if you will.
<br />Just like the good-old days! :icon_lol:<br />Countless countless times through these 3 1/2 years I'd find some pic and think, he looks different here. Then I couldn't resist pulling out pics to compare, and then every time--no, it's him but I can't put my finger on it. It's almost like he has a putty face and can stretch and pull and do things to slightly alter things. But they are still him---same voice within reason, since he could talk with several tones of voice, same mannerisms, personality, body walk, etc.<br /><br />The only thing I'm always brought back to is the movie Prestige, where in the end we find he did the disappearing acts because he had a twin, hidden all through the years, than had even chopped off one finger to look the same. We've discussed so many times whether the Jackson's, before they were famous, could have hidden a twin that no one would know about. Then to co-ordinate the 2 all through the years so they are never seen by the wrong people. Then it would be that one of the twins actually died on June 25, no DWD, but KJ's real son. Then this is no hoax. And for all those who love him, we would grieve somewhat, but rejoice that we still have one left, because if they were twins, they are so completely indistinguishable one from the other, that we love them equally!<br /><br />I thought many many times about that scenario, but I simply cannot see how that could have been carried out, when so many thousands of people were involved in his life all the time. And where did that other one go, when the main one had things happening--Neverland, Lisa, PPB, road-shows. The co-ordination would be unimaginable. I know we talked of KJ maybe being pregnant when MJ was born, so MJ's birthdate was wrong, the whole thing with Brandon--Marlon's twin, young MJ with the cheek scar and the other not, on and on. But the conclusion I came to was that MJ has planned for 20+ years to fool us, and wants us to think that there are 2 of him, an illusion by means of surgery, make-up, weight gain/loss, 2 middle names, well-staged pics with lighting, heels or not, wigs, some usage of doubles to mislead but who up close never look much like MJ, on and on. He truly is a MASTER illusionist! It's never been done on this scale. He literally has the whole world fooled, his fans, and perhaps even most hard-core hoaxers. But this is just my opinion. And yes, it has kept me awake at night--thanks MJ! :icon_lol: I love you anyway! :icon_razz:<br />
<br /><br />MJonmind, your theory about a possible twin COULD explain the quote on the This Is It-album: ' Always great to sing with my brother'. I always found it very weird, like: Which brother do you mean Mike?? You have five of them! <br />The twin-theory goes beyond my imagination, but hey this whole hoax does!<br />
<br />For the record, in my previous post, I was concluding that I do NOT think MJ had a twin, or look-alike brother. I think it's all MJ, with myriad changes applied--make-up, photo-shop, age, weight, lighting, surgery, etc.
Whenever I hear talk of Michael having a twin, it makes me think of those rumors back in the day when they thought Michael and LaToya were the same person....<br /><br />Or that Janet and Michael were the same person.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Sorry, I don't buy the identical twin theory. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />"other things being equal, a simpler explanation is better than a more complex one."<br /><br /><br />I think the picture is indeed of Michael, but I think we're missing the point. :Crash:<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />From the official MJ FB page, just now: <br /><br />Promo Ads: Check out this two-page promo ad for the single “Stranger In Moscow”!<br /><br /><br /><br /> :icon_e_biggrin: :icon_lol: :icon_albino:<br />
<br /><br />Awesome, lol.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Promo Ads: Check out this two-page promo ad for the single “Stranger In Moscow”!
<br />Single, showing 2 MJ's that are identical! Too funny!<br />MJ, is that you!! I love this weird way of communicating, as Front called it--"Whispers"! Gets the job done! :LolLolLolLol:
Promo Ads: Check out this two-page promo ad for the single “Stranger In Moscow”!
<br />Single, showing 2 MJ's that are identical! Too funny!<br />MJ, is that you!! I love this weird way of communicating, as Front called it--"Whispers"! Gets the job done! :LolLolLolLol:<br />
<br /><br />.....another thing is the top and bottom don't match up, it was cut to fit. And usually when they refer to something as being "two pages" don't they mean "front/back"?...not top/bottom? :icon_e_confused:
<br />From the official MJ FB page, just now: <br /><br />Promo Ads: Check out this two-page promo ad for the single “Stranger In Moscow”!<br /><br /><br /><br /> :icon_e_biggrin: :icon_lol: :icon_albino:<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />This looks like a puzzle,..... TS and Front :icon_eek: :icon_geek:
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.""For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."