Let me just put a reminder about "how troll appear and leave in Hoaxland"<br /><br />- they log on a forum (for exemple this one) and start spreading poetry, love messages and so on<br /><br />- they get everybody to send them love messages and they never answer to the question "are you pretending to be mj, yes or not"<br /><br />- they end to be banned, or the subject is banned, or whatever about them<br /><br />- they create their own "ass kissing place" where they run some little game of "i show you my ear/hand/foot/whatever that can be shown... but PLEASE, respect my identity. I am just ME. I'm just human and all the same blablabla.<br /><br />- most of the time they go higher and higher with pictures, videos, informations, to the top where they DIE/DISAPPEAR/whatever that would get their "fans" crazy.<br /><br />- everybody is crazy : people say it's because of other people who refused to believe it was MJ, people who think it's a troll say "i told you".. well it's a whole mess....<br /><br />- then they come back ! and they have some explanation saying they were never dead but their account was hacked by some "dangerous people".<br /><br />- they say people are mean with them, and that they will never come back, if noone loves them...<br /><br />- everybody prays for them to stay, accuse other people of making them go.<br /><br />- they close their accounts, never come back...<br /><br />AND THEN ANOTHER STRANGE ACCOUNT APPEARS....<br /><br />My only question about this story is : is it the same "someone" anytime ? Because AT LEAST 4 times we have such scenario in Hoaxland.... ALWAYS THE SAME.<br /><br /><br />SO if it's a troll, i'll kick his ass when i find him. If it's Michael, well... I'll kick his ass too !<br /><br />Just think about how many time you saw the scenario i described... it's just "strange" and any account starting this scenario, obviously end the same.<br /><br />********<br /><br />For the moment i put no judgement on Front or anyone who would do the same. But anytime i said this, people didn't believe. So i write it down, and we will see loool
To get back on topic, how do I feel?<br /><br />I'm missing the puzzles, the discussions, the frustrations, the excitement, the revelations, the laughter ..... and the tears, of earlier hoax times. I'm missing logging on and finding so many new posts that I'd be late for work trying to catch up! :compute: I'm missing you guys! :bearhug:
How about "behind the mask" video ? <br />If it was released in 2011, i think half the forum would have fainted to find such video :icon_mrgreen:<br /><br />There are still things happening on the "official MJ" side. And it's still hoaxy-hoaxy !
Well I know some still are entertained/excited by that stuff, but with me it's more that it's hard to get used to not needingor wanting clues and hoaxy hoaxy stuff any more. Kinda ironic really! Never mind me - personal circumstances have me virtually house-bound at the moment and going somewhat stir-crazy!
I just love the fact that such stuff are "still" happening, after 4 years. Many can't believe it's already 4 years, me first. there's always been something to keep us on the road of hoax. I can't believe this wasn't planned. so anytime i see such "clues" i'm not excited by the clue but by the fact that this thing is still going on.
<br />@sunset, my point exactly. To me he (Front) = the man himself :-)<br /><br />But, @curls is absolutely right. So we have to deal with it. Even though people as @Do now missing the oppertunity to follow everything. <br />But we can't change Souza's rules, we have to respect that and that's fine.<br />
<br /><br />I'm respecting Souza's rules I 'm still here but I was just answering what Bec suggested about satarting a new discussion about Front that's all I'm not a rebel quite the contrary I'm very disciplined and I do accept rules.
So i think "they" managed to get your head busy with all the BS they are able to put on the table when they don't want you to focus on important things. <br /><br />Stay focussed, don't pay attention to BS.<br /><br />Getting fans to defend MJ from all this, is ALSO a way to get them busy and away from other things.
I have my crabby pants on and I've about had it up to here. TS and TIAI turned into nothing, TS_comments and the levels n signs turned into nothing, Front turned into nothing, everything turns into nothing. How can this be nothing? MJ didn't die that way. I swear to god I didn't make this all up in my head.
<br />I have my crabby pants on and I've about had it up to here. TS and TIAI turned into nothing, TS_comments and the levels n signs turned into nothing, Front turned into nothing, everything turns into nothing. How can this be nothing? MJ didn't die that way. I swear to god I didn't make this all up in my head.<br />
<br /><br />[size=8pt]It's just one year more, and then my patience will be completely gone.[/size]<br /><br /><br />I have a strong feeling that the death hoax is not just about vindication but much much more, I think in the near future we will be questioning what our beliefs are. <br /><br />And I feel that a lot of information given to us is 'twisted'.
<br /><br />I have a strong feeling that the death hoax is not just about vindication but much much more, I think in the near future we will be questioning what our beliefs are. <br /><br />And I feel that a [size=14pt]lot of information given to us is 'twisted[/size]'.<br />
<br /><br />You can say that again :th_bravo: , cause we are driving on a dangerous mountain road blindfolded :LolLolLolLol: !!!!<br />BTW,how do I feel 4 years later?? I feel GREAT , because I feel loved.Like Michael said in This is it,LOVE is important ,so "All we need is LOVE", and the rest will reveal itself .<br /><br /><br />All you need is love - Beatles<br /><br />Love, love, love.<br />Love, love, love.<br />Love, love, love.<br /><br />There’s nothing you can do that can’t be done.<br />Nothing you can sing that can’t be sung.<br />Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game.<br />It’s easy.<br /><br />Nothing you can make that can’t be made.<br />No one you can save that can’t be saved.<br />Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be you in time.<br />It’s easy.<br /><br />All you need is love.<br />All you need is love.<br />All you need is love, love.<br />Love is all you need.<br /><br />All you need is love.<br />All you need is love.<br />All you need is love, love.<br />Love is all you need.<br /><br />Nothing you can know that isn’t known.<br />Nothing you can see that isn’t shown.<br />Nowhere you can be that isn’t where you’re meant to be.<br />It’s easy.<br /><br />All you need is love.<br />All you need is love.<br />All you need is love, love.<br />Love is all you need.<br /><br />All you need is love (all together, now!)<br />All you need is love. (everybody!)<br />All you need is love, love.<br />Love is all you need (love is all you need).<br /><br />Yee-haï!<br />Oh yeah!<br />She loves you, yeah yeah yeah.<br />She loves you, yeah yeah yeah. <br /><br /><br />
<br />I have my crabby pants on and I've about had it up to here. TS and TIAI turned into nothing, TS_comments and the levels n signs turned into nothing, Front turned into nothing, everything turns into nothing. How can this be nothing? MJ didn't die that way. I swear to god I didn't make this all up in my head.<br />
<br /><br />No bec, you didn't make all this up, but the 'turning into nothing' stuff is frustrating, to say the the least. Does kinda make one wonder what else will turn into nothing and that then begs the question, what the heck was all this for? If there is not a totally public world wide righting of wrongs and truthing of lies then MJ's legacy NOW is far worse than when he 'died'. It's not even about the music anymore - like you said, it's all drugs and child molestation. Unless he's happy for that to be the outcome, there has to be more to come. I have many unanswered questions which make me uncomfortable about many things these days but I cannot believe this is the end - this isn't 'nothing'. It has to be just one of those quiet, dark periods, you know, the ones where a certain member used to come along with whispers and a light!<br /><br />We really sound like an ungrateful bunch right now - crabby pants indeed!
<br />Hoax? What hoax? All we have is continuing stories of drug addiction and child molestation. What a legacy. Weeeeeeeeeeee.<br />
<br /><br />Yesssss.<br /><br />I do believe (obviously) that MJ knows how to keep an audience in tune or tuned in, but he's losing me here. Maybe because I get distracted easily. But I'm surprised I lasted this long, kudos to me...well I guess not anymore :icon_e_confused: <br /><br />This is not even the worst of it...I will dread the day this hoax is officially over...it will be worse than what we are feeling now.<br />
<br />I have my crabby pants on and I've about had it up to here. TS and TIAI turned into nothing, TS_comments and the levels n signs turned into nothing, Front turned into nothing, everything turns into nothing. How can this be nothing? MJ didn't die that way. I swear to god I didn't make this all up in my head.<br />
<br /><br />No bec, you didn't make all this up, but the 'turning into nothing' stuff is frustrating, to say the the least. Does kinda make one wonder what else will turn into nothing and that then begs the question, what the heck was all this for? If there is not a totally public world wide righting of wrongs and truthing of lies then MJ's legacy NOW is far worse than when he 'died'. It's not even about the music anymore - like you said, it's all drugs and child molestation. Unless he's happy for that to be the outcome, there has to be more to come. I have many unanswered questions which make me uncomfortable about many things these days but I cannot believe this is the end - this isn't 'nothing'. It has to be just one of those quiet, dark periods, you know, the ones where a certain member used to come along with whispers and a light!<br /><br />We really sound like an ungrateful bunch right now - crabby pants indeed!<br />
<br /><br />Agree, this is a static moment , but in these four years we have had other but we always have been here, and I think that is what we must continue to do... It's all for L.O.V.E. :moonwalk_: :bearhug:<br /><br /><br />
<br />Hoax? What hoax? All we have is continuing stories of drug addiction and child molestation. What a legacy. Weeeeeeeeeeee.<br />
<br /><br />Yesssss.<br /><br />I do believe (obviously) that MJ knows how to keep an audience in tune or tuned in, but he's losing me here. Maybe because I get distracted easily. But I'm surprised I lasted this long, kudos to me...well I guess not anymore :icon_e_confused: <br /><br />This is not even the worst of it...I will dread the day this hoax is officially over...it will be worse than what we are feeling now.<br />
<br /><br />Loosing me too.<br /><br />The end of the hoax trail is MJ being fawned over and worshiped by his stalker fans on Twitter? Let down.<br /><br />Gee n here I thought we actually had to use our brains to figure out some puzzle. I guess that's the part I made up in my head.
<br />Hoax? What hoax? All we have is continuing stories of drug addiction and child molestation. What a legacy. Weeeeeeeeeeee.<br />
<br /><br />Yesssss.<br /><br />I do believe (obviously) that MJ knows how to keep an audience in tune or tuned in, but he's losing me here. Maybe because I get distracted easily. But I'm surprised I lasted this long, kudos to me...well I guess not anymore :icon_e_confused: <br /><br />This is not even the worst of it...I will dread the day this hoax is officially over...it will be worse than what we are feeling now.<br />
<br /><br />Loosing me too.<br /><br />The end of the hoax trail is MJ being fawned over and worshiped by his stalker fans on Twitter? Let down.<br /><br />Gee n here I thought we actually had to use our brains to figure out some puzzle. I guess that's the part I made up in my head.<br />
<br /><br /><br />Bec if you mean by stalkers the ones that are sending love to Front/Michael in a daily basis then you can call me stalker I don't care because I know Michael is revealing piece by piece to us as Kenny Ortega said.
Bec, I wonder if it's just that our (as in the forum's) time has passed. We saw the inconsistencies, did the investigating and found out long ago that MJ is alive and that he was posting here. What more is there to do here? We've spoken before about the tendency to inflate this site's importance - I reckon he's had his fun/done his job here and has simply moved on. MJDHI will become an interesting archive of our investigations, not an active site - which is kind of how I get the feeling Souza has wanted it to be for quite some time. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, Souza)<br /><br />BUT, like I said earlier, the hoax isn't done yet - even if we are. And things could change in an instant ....... or not!<br /><br />EDIT: P.S. Aren't you normally asleep at this time? Having trouble sleeping? xxx zzz
<br />Revealing what piece by piece? Once you know it's him, what else is there to know by that format? <br />
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<br />Bec, I wonder if it's just that our (as in the forum's) time has passed. We saw the inconsistencies, did the investigating and found out long ago that MJ is alive and that he was posting here. What more is there to do here? We've spoken before about the tendency to inflate this site's importance - I reckon he's had his fun/done his job here and has simply moved on. MJDHI will become an interesting archive of our investigations, not an active site - which is kind of how I get the feeling Souza has wanted it to be for quite some time. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, Souza)<br /><br />BUT, like I said earlier, the hoax isn't done yet - even if we are. And things could change in an instant ....... or not!<br /><br />
<br /><br /><br /><br />So we do all the "heavy lifting" here in forum and for what? <br /><br /><br />"Gee, thanks for taking precious time away from your families/lives and burning out all your brain cells setting all this up for me. I'm going back to being worshipped by my adoring fans now...hope you all had fun?!" <br /><br /> :WTF:<br /><br /><br />Granted, we all came here willingly....but for it to end this way would seem pretty if that's the case.<br />
<br />I've been in watch and wait mode lately, which is what usually happens to me every few months. <br /><br />I miss TS. I try to apply his "lessons" to what's going on now but I keep feeling like I'm missing something or not understanding certain things properly. <br /><br />I don't think Front abandoned the forum but rather expanded his audience. And when has one forum been able to hang onto Michael indefinitely? I think it's a bit unfair to lump everyone who tweets him into the stalker fan/ass kisser category. Much of the hoax investigation has moved to twitter, I find it harder to keep up there but that's just me. Front made himself more available by going to twitter and those who wish to participate, do. And naturally there is going to be all sorts of personalities there. <br /><br />I still find myself quite intrigued with the little mysteries that seem to go on in the hoax world, things I notice but can't quite put my finger on or just choose not to say anything.<br /><br />The lack of stain-removal, the misconceptions and continuous lies about MJ, etc is what's most frustrating. I don't know how righting the wrongs will be achieved but my not knowing doesn't mean it won't happen. Changing perceptions is not easy but it's certainly not impossible.<br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />Bec, I wonder if it's just that our (as in the forum's) time has passed. We saw the inconsistencies, did the investigating and found out long ago that MJ is alive and that he was posting here. What more is there to do here? We've spoken before about the tendency to inflate this site's importance - I reckon he's had his fun/done his job here and has simply moved on. MJDHI will become an interesting archive of our investigations, not an active site - which is kind of how I get the feeling Souza has wanted it to be for quite some time. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, Souza)<br /><br />BUT, like I said earlier, the hoax isn't done yet - even if we are. And things could change in an instant ....... or not!<br /><br />EDIT: P.S. Aren't you normally asleep at this time? Having trouble sleeping? xxx zzz<br />
<br /><br />Nope, up ungodly early for horse show.<br /><br />I miss TS too. He made me think. It's boring now. Yes I am whining. Yes it is unbecoming. No I don't care very much. I hate when people come into your life with a flourish and then disappear with no explanation. I guess I have abandonment issues.<br /><br />Ps. @curls, cute that you noticed I was off routine! Thanks, I feel special.
LOL, I just know our paths occasionally cross first thing in my morning, but never at lunchtime! But yes, you ARE special bec! And I love how you speak your mind - when I saw the title of this thread my first thought was 'abandoned', but I didn't dare say it out loud cos it sounded too 'needy'! LOL! <br /><br />Re TS - there's unfinished business there, that's what's frustrating. If he'd wrapped up all the 7's and then disappeared, things would be different. Common sense says one's belief, trust and faith in a character one only knows via the internet should be limited. I think we forgot that.
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