Do you think Michael Jackson uses this forum?

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  • ROFLROFL Posts: 530
    You make no sense, I'll lock this thread, again we don't want trolls on this forum.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I will reopen this thread. Let them show their true colors, we know who will have the best laugh in the end.

    For the non-believers stalking this forum, I have a few questions to start with, to give you a chance to show us why we are nutcases. If you can answer all these questions with a good argumented answer, I will have some more for you, but I don't think I will have to.


    Michael:

    M1. After watching MJ videos including Thriller and Ghosts: is there any reason why MJ would not have thought to do a real life Thriller—especially since he was married to LMP, and the Elvis hoax death theory is very well known?

    M2. If MJ did plan a hoax death, is there any time that would fit better with a full moon (Thriller) and 777 than: 6-25-09 death (77 days to 9-9-09), 7-7-09 memorial (full moon & 7 years from will), 9-3-09 burial (7 days to 9-9-09, & almost full moon), and all the other numerology?

    M3. Being a big fan of old movies, and also choosing to remake Gilda in TII: it’s not possible that MJ was unaware of Mundson/Macready faking his death in Gilda (and also sharing MJ’s birthday). So if MJ was not planning on faking his death: would he be so cruel as to include Gilda in TII, and make his fans think he was planning a hoax death when in reality he was not?

    Statistics:

    S1. Even if MJ was unaware of the hoax death in Gilda: what are the chances that he accidentally did a remake of a fake death by an actor sharing his own birthday?

    S2. What are the odds that all the hoax numerology and timing is merely coincidence (and show your calculations, not just your answer)? (see challenge in quotes below).

    S3. Things which occur randomly, and are not planned, will happen more than once. So can you give at least one example of a similar death timing, that happened by chance—where the timing repeatedly fit with specific three-digit and/or four-digit numbers (not single-digit numbers), numbers that were emphasized by that same person before the death (hint: neither Elvis nor 2pac come anywhere close)?

    Family:

    F1. From the death to the burial more than two months later, why did we never see a single tear shed from a single family member (not even Paris, in her touching speech at the memorial)? And why did the children looked bored at the memorial? And why did the adults all wear dark glasses (so that we could not see the tears, or not see the lack of tears)?

    F2. Are we to believe that MJ’s own family is ignorant of his role in the Liberian Girl video? And if not, then why did they allow Liberian Girl pictures to dominate both the memorial and the burial? Would they be so cruel, as to send fans the message that he is hiding behind the camera and running The Show—if in reality MJ was actually dead???

    F3. Why was the burial delayed for a world-record longest time? And why did the family schedule it for 9-3-09: unless it had to do with the 7 days to 9-9-09, and the full moon (on 9-4-09)?

    F4. Why was the funeral recorded on a movie set? (see video).

    [youtube:lz4nzmhb]

    $999 Reward!!!

    On the one year anniversary of 9-9-09, this is a very fitting time to offer this $999 reward. The reward will go to the first person who can show mathematically and statistically, that there is one chance in any number less than a million (1 chance in 999,999 or 1 chance in 500,000, etc), that all the MJ numerology listed in step 3 below happened by chance.

    Anyone can accept this offer, but they must do each of the following 5 steps.

    Step 1: Carefully read each of the following three times: all of this post, and TIAI Updates #4b, #4c, #5a, #5d, #6 (especially #6-8 & #6-9).

    Step 2: Start a post (in the TIAI subforum) titled: “$999 Claim, By John Doe [don’t use this name, use your own username]”. Include in your post steps 3 and 4, below; also, any discussion regarding step 5 should be done in this same thread.

    Step 3: Show your calculations for each separate numerology (a. to l.) happening by chance {for an example, see the 12:21 phone call time, http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9994}.
    Be sure to include:
    a. The 911 call was in the first few seconds of 12:21
    b. 12:21 to 2:26 is 2 hours and 5 minutes on June 25; 2 + 5 = 7
    c. 1,221 + 226 = 1447; 1 + 4 + 4 + 7 = 16; 1 + 6 = 7
    d. Memorial 7th day of 7th month, 7 years after will (and full moon)
    e. 77 days from “death” to 9-9-09
    f. 7 days from “burial” to 9-9-09 (and almost full moon)
    g. THIS IS IT vowels = 999
    h. HIS (HIStory and THIS IS IT) backwards = 1998
    i. 1998 autograph; 1998 - 666 = 1332 / 4 = 333 + 666 = 999
    j. 777 + 999 = 1776
    k. All of these numbers (333, 666, 777, 999, 1221, 1776, 1998) are divisible by 111
    l. 8 + 16 + 1977 = 2001; 6 + 25 + 2009 = 2040 (space intros for Elvis and MJ)

    Step 4: Show your calculations for the combination of all these numerologies happening by chance. Your answer here at step 4 must be 1 chance in 999,999 or less (because one chance in a million or more does not qualify for the reward).

    Step 5: Allow me to question/challenge your calculations.

    If you can defend your calculations and statistics by answering my questions/challenges: then PM your mailing address to me, and I will send you $999 (U.S. dollars) via Western Union!

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • lilwendylilwendy Posts: 788
    @~Souza~ Thank you! LOL I was reading the antics on here yesterday and then saw it was locked. I was kind of... upset... because, while I don't agree with ridicule, I didn't wish them silenced either. I kid you not, I thought to myself if it was still open I would have encouraged two things 1. for them to answer TS's questions (the ones you posted) and 2. for them to state why they believe he is dead (and to back it up).

    I have always maintained that I do not form an opinion then shut my mind to everything else that goes counter to it. I keep an open mind and always want to hear if someone has a different opinion. It is very possible that what I believe is wrong and I can't be so self righteous to think otherwise. It just so happens based on my research, I believe that what I believe is right. <!-- s:-) -->:-)<!-- s:-) --> But I'm open to being proven wrong.

    So thanks for reopening it and to all those who believe MJ is dead, please take the time, and be patient, to show us where you believe we are blinded. Remember, if it's coming from a place of love, we will gladly listen.... well I guess I can only speak for me... I will gladly listen. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • hesouttamylifehesouttamylife Posts: 5,393
    Speaking of Ghosts, in it he died, went to ash and then came back to life with the bad man gone and those "normal" people having a real acceptance of him for who he really was.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    I don't know why do you think they care about those questions.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    I don't know why do you think they care about those questions.

    They probably don't, but that's okay. In this case we gave them the opportunity to actually back up their claims. If they can't or won't answer them and still keep screaming that he's dead, then they are simply ignorant and my point is proven.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    I think in english they say "when the hell will freeze" or something like that.....
    When the hell will freeze they will try to answer because they are set on "Michael is dead - RIP Michael" like robots.

    Good night.
  • I don't know why do you think they care about those questions.

    They probably don't, but that's okay. In this case we gave them the opportunity to actually back up their claims. If they can't or won't answer them and still keep screaming that he's dead, then they are simply ignorant and my point is proven.
    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> And some called us 'mean" for "smelling' their stinky ass trolls from a distance <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    Why are you so interested troll to know "Do you think Michael Jackson uses this forum?" wanna come in and check for yourself? oopss sorry the door is closed for you...click your heels 3 times and go in your world Mj ain't gonna answer the door <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    I don't know why do you think they care about those questions.

    They probably don't, but that's okay. In this case we gave them the opportunity to actually back up their claims. If they can't or won't answer them and still keep screaming that he's dead, then they are simply ignorant and my point is proven.
    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> And some called us 'mean" for "smelling' their stinky ass trolls from a distance <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    I know there's no point talking to these people because if they are who I suspect they are - I just know there's no point.
    And I don't think I'm wrong about who they are. Their mission is just to make some believers life a living hell.

    Whatever......
  • Souza wrote:
    Let them show their true colors, we know who will have the best laugh in the end.
    I absolutely agree. This not only applys to the posters who come on here and try to get a reaction out of the believers/hoax investigators but IMO also can be said about members here on the forum. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->

    Yesterday I was reading the comments on this thread and I already saw it heading in the direction of a lock down. I went offline for a minute and sure enough it was locked when I got back online. I will also say I was disappointed that it got locked.

    My reasons though besides it being a great lesson for the hoaxers here but more so for freedom of speech regardless if it goes against what the majority feel here on the forum about Michael being alive. What I am about to say will most likely give some people a feeling of wtf no she didn't just say that...lol

    This whole thing here in this thread from all the multiple personalities mocking us is a good example of how hoaxers respond. Most responded with just their own
    feelings/opinions. <!-- s:| -->:|<!-- s:| -->

    Regardless of the posters intentions and that they lacked evidence to back up their claim of Michael being dead neither did the members/believers/hoaxers/Soldiers bring evidence that he is alive. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->

    There is going to come a time when Michael is gonna reveal himself completely and come out from behind the curtain; he is going to need the support of his Soldiers for his return to be safe. If his Soldiers get flustered and frustrated now when a little ole troll comes along; how in the world can he really depend on his Soldiers when it really counts?

    I was going to post yesterday but the thread was locked and I am very glad to see it re-opened. Thanks Souza. Now would be a good time to really come together in unity. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->

    I am ending my post with some words of wisdom that have been there for over a year now. I pray we do it better than what we have been doing for the last year. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    One more thing; yes I am convinced Michael uses this forum...

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    <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=125&t=3391<!-- l -->
    by TS » Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:11 pm
    1-7. Why Would the “Return” Depend on Hoaxers?

    Several have asked: why would the timing of the MJ return be dependent (at least partly) upon few thousand hoax believers, and their understanding/accepting the TIAI information? A simple answer is that the reaction of the few before the return, can be a pretty good indicator of the reaction of the many after the return
    <!-- m -->http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpb ... =72&t=1991<!-- m -->.

    But think about it. After returning, MJ can speak publicly about the environment and other issues related to healing the world; but with some aspects, well I think you can figure things out. As soon as MJ returns, there will be a stampede on all the hoax forums; there will be tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands, suddenly interested in what we have been investigating and saying all along. So if we hoax believers now are united on the reasons for the hoax: it will be much more effective when others come asking questions, than if we are all confused and disagreeing on the reasons for the hoax.
    1-11. The Lynyrd Skynyrd Example

    Although the majority of comments about TIAI have been very positive, yet there have been several complaints and objections that need to be addressed. But before getting into any further details, let me tell a short story. Whether it is true or not isn’t important—the point is still the same; nevertheless, it was told to me as a true story.

    The Lynyrd Skynyrd band was eating in a restaurant one day, when someone put money in the jukebox and picked “Sweet Home Alabama”. Then the band chimed in, and started singing along. Soon the man who paid for the song on the jukebox asked them to stop singing, because this was his favourite song—and he wanted to hear the real band singing it, not them! The band kindly stopped singing; but when they were leaving, they asked the waitress (who knew that they were Lynyrd Skynryd) to let the jukebox man know who they really were—once they were gone.

    I think that the point to the story is obvious. Some hoax believers don’t know MJ quite as well as they might think. In fact, if MJ were here personally on these forums, some of the MJ “fans” would reject what he said and even say unkind things to him—and not even realize that it was him!
    ...once the opposition to MJ’s message has gone away, then MJ will be ready to “Return”!
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    OK.....

    I truly hope these guests will prove me wrong .....
    I truly hope there's a chance to change that attitude I had to deal with a long time now.

    Come on girls.....can you do that?
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    One more thing; yes I am convinced Michael uses this forum...[/b][/color]
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    LOL, I agree. And I think I might even have banned his ass a few times. How funny would it be to come into the chat, telling the truth by saying you're MJ, then get your ass kicked and told you're an annoying troll? I bet no one ever dares to say that to him face to face, so that must be funny to him. Just think of it, wouldn't you if you were in his shoes? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • One more thing; yes I am convinced Michael uses this forum...[/b][/color]
    [youtube:24xeyq62]

    LOL, I agree. And I think I might even have banned his ass a few times. How funny would it be to come into the chat, telling the truth by saying you're MJ, then get your ass kicked and told you're an annoying troll? I bet no one ever dares to say that to him face to face, so that must be funny to him. Just think of it, wouldn't you if you were in his shoes? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    Well i think he chooses his words very wise so he never got banned ...IF indeed he is/was here.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    One more thing; yes I am convinced Michael uses this forum...[/b][/color]
    [youtube:4d3dmy71]

    LOL, I agree. And I think I might even have banned his ass a few times. How funny would it be to come into the chat, telling the truth by saying you're MJ, then get your ass kicked and told you're an annoying troll? I bet no one ever dares to say that to him face to face, so that must be funny to him. Just think of it, wouldn't you if you were in his shoes? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    Well i think he chooses his words very wise so he never got banned ...IF indeed he is/was here.

    Some of his charachters maybe, but others might have liked to play around. You heard the man, he likes MORPH. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • One more thing; yes I am convinced Michael uses this forum...[/b][/color]
    [youtube:2h38zsa0]

    LOL, I agree. And I think I might even have banned his ass a few times. How funny would it be to come into the chat, telling the truth by saying you're MJ, then get your ass kicked and told you're an annoying troll? I bet no one ever dares to say that to him face to face, so that must be funny to him. Just think of it, wouldn't you if you were in his shoes? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    Well i think he chooses his words very wise so he never got banned ...IF indeed he is/was here.

    Some of his charachters maybe, but others might have liked to play around. You heard the man, he likes MORPH. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
    <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> I would !
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    by GINAFELICIA » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:23 pm
    I think in english they say "when the hell will freeze" or something like that.....
    When the hell will freeze they will try to answer because they are set on "Michael is dead - RIP Michael" like robots.

    Good night.
    It's "when hell freezes over". I know what you're saying, it's like "over my dead body".These guys obviously feel confident that they are right and are obnoxiously arrogant about it as well. Just the way some personalities are like. Has anyone seen a reality show called, "Bully Beatdown", where someone has been bullied, the bully is invited to take on a fighter, but they don't know the fighter is stronger. The winning money goes to the victim. After they get whupped, their personality usually changes to less arrogant and more understanding of how they had acted in bullying. Psychology I guess. <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv30bcu9G4Q<!-- m --> I guess I'm saying that the only thing that will put non-believers in their places is Michael's return, but strong evidence as Souza presents could also make them think, hopefully.
    TS
    I think that the point to the story is obvious. Some hoax believers don’t know MJ quite as well as they might think. In fact, if MJ were here personally on these forums, some of the MJ “fans” would reject what he said and even say unkind things to him—and not even realize that it was him!
    MJ may have morphed into several members we've chatted with here, I feel strongly. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • by GINAFELICIA » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:23 pm
    I think in english they say "when the hell will freeze" or something like that.....
    When the hell will freeze they will try to answer because they are set on "Michael is dead - RIP Michael" like robots.

    Good night.
    It's "when hell freezes over". I know what you're saying, it's like "over my dead body".These guys obviously feel confident that they are right and are obnoxiously arrogant about it as well. Just the way some personalities are like. Has anyone seen a reality show called, "Bully Beatdown", where someone has been bullied, the bully is invited to take on a fighter, but they don't know the fighter is stronger. The winning money goes to the victim. After they get whupped, their personality usually changes to less arrogant and more understanding of how they had acted in bullying. Psychology I guess. <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv30bcu9G4Q<!-- m --> I guess I'm saying that the only thing that will put non-believers in their places is Michael's return, but strong evidence as Souza presents could also make them think, hopefully.
    TS
    I think that the point to the story is obvious. Some hoax believers don’t know MJ quite as well as they might think. In fact, if MJ were here personally on these forums, some of the MJ “fans” would reject what he said and even say unkind things to him—and not even realize that it was him!
    MJ may have morphed into several members we've chatted with here, I feel strongly. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
    Maybe TS talks about himself <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> 'we'/some of us reject his theories and said unkind things to him...
  • @~Souza~ Thank you! LOL I was reading the antics on here yesterday and then saw it was locked. I was kind of... upset... because, while I don't agree with ridicule, I didn't wish them silenced either. I kid you not, I thought to myself if it was still open I would have encouraged two things 1. for them to answer TS's questions (the ones you posted) and 2. for them to state why they believe he is dead (and to back it up).

    I have always maintained that I do not form an opinion then shut my mind to everything else that goes counter to it. I keep an open mind and always want to hear if someone has a different opinion. It is very possible that what I believe is wrong and I can't be so self righteous to think otherwise. It just so happens based on my research, I believe that what I believe is right. <!-- s:-) -->:-)<!-- s:-) --> But I'm open to being proven wrong.

    So thanks for reopening it and to all those who believe MJ is dead, please take the time, and be patient, to show us where you believe we are blinded. Remember, if it's coming from a place of love, we will gladly listen.... well I guess I can only speak for me... I will gladly listen. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    I agree with you lilwendy! I keep an open mind to every opinion i hear or read. I do not say rude things to people just because i don't like what they say. I'll try to put myself in to their shoes first, research, try to find facts and only after that i can agree or disagree with them. Non believers please do not judge us before you know all the facts. Please back up your opinion. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • AnaMarciaAnaMarcia Posts: 860
    That would be so funny! Imagine any of us fighting with Michael here in forum ... cursing him and asking him to leave!
    I think he can have lots of fun here! <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: -->
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    I am pretty sure that I have, on at least one occasion, accused Michael Jackson of ripping off my theory <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->
  • One more thing; yes I am convinced Michael uses this forum...[/b][/color]
    [youtube:1f76j1dw]

    LOL, I agree. And I think I might even have banned his ass a few times. How funny would it be to come into the chat, telling the truth by saying you're MJ, then get your ass kicked and told you're an annoying troll? I bet no one ever dares to say that to him face to face, so that must be funny to him. Just think of it, wouldn't you if you were in his shoes? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->


    Imagine that Souza, that would be priceless. He will have a press conference when he will come back and state, that he got his ass banned from Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigatiors. He will say they open a forum in my honor and they kicked my ass out. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • lilwendylilwendy Posts: 788
    One more thing; yes I am convinced Michael uses this forum...[/b][/color]
    [youtube:h3kvtyfa]

    LOL, I agree. And I think I might even have banned his ass a few times. How funny would it be to come into the chat, telling the truth by saying you're MJ, then get your ass kicked and told you're an annoying troll? I bet no one ever dares to say that to him face to face, so that must be funny to him. Just think of it, wouldn't you if you were in his shoes? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->


    Imagine that Souza, that would be priceless. He will have a press conference when he will come back and state, that he got his ass banned from Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigatiors. He will say they open a forum in my honor and they kicked my ass out. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    Oh my gosh you guys have me laughing so hard!!! If I was MJ I definitely would have several profiles and i would even talk to myself to make sure people don't know I'm one in the same! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    Re: the clip above, totally off topic, I could look at his mouth form a smile all day... it's something about how it moves and kinda curves in the corners.... oh I'm not explaining myself well... anyway, I find it most fascinating! <!-- s:-) -->:-)<!-- s:-) -->
  • I am pretty sure that I have, on at least one occasion, accused Michael Jackson of ripping off my theory <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: -->

    that's funny <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    One more thing; yes I am convinced Michael uses this forum...[/b][/color]
    [youtube:3p66eb3w]

    LOL, I agree. And I think I might even have banned his ass a few times. How funny would it be to come into the chat, telling the truth by saying you're MJ, then get your ass kicked and told you're an annoying troll? I bet no one ever dares to say that to him face to face, so that must be funny to him. Just think of it, wouldn't you if you were in his shoes? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->


    very funny

    this reminds me of a story about Elvis, I don't know if it's true.

    The story is that Elvis himself participated in a contest for the best Elvis impersonator and he lost <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    MJonmind Thank you for correcting my bad English.
    TS
    I think that the point to the story is obvious. Some hoax believers don’t know MJ quite as well as they might think. In fact, if MJ were here personally on these forums, some of the MJ “fans” would reject what he said and even say unkind things to him—and not even realize that it was him!
    MJ may have morphed into several members we've chatted with here, I feel strongly. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->


    I remember when TS said that - I really paid attention to it.
    But I totally believe TS is right about this - that people would reject what he said.

    About our feeling that MJ was here, morphed into several members...........I don't know, I was thinking the same but when someone thought I was MJ <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> I realised how easy we can deceive ourselves. Let's face it, we are here because we have something in common with MJ, something deep inside that vibrates on the same wave length. In a way we are all Michael Jackson, in a way.......we studied him for so long, we assimilated his ideas that maybe we morphed ourselves a bit in MJs....
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