i actually feel very tired of ur comeback dates. ur info can be genuine but plz if u r not sure abt a comeback date then don't say anything abt it 'cause it frustrates a lot of people. <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x -->
merci TS pour l introduction du fuseau horraire je suis francaise l aurais tu oublie , ahahah wikipedia tu es sympa je t adore mais quel labirynthe tu vas me faire mourir avant l heure , si j explique ca a ma copine elle va rien y comprendre, tu pouvais expliquer qu il fallait s enregistrer avant , j aurais perdu moins de temps , regarde j ai un cheveu gris qui pousse par ta faute lol que dieu te benisse j espere que la suite va pas me renverser la tete a l envers les maneges de micky j adore sauf la tete en bas moi bisous de normandie france
One thing about the Autopsy report is that, I think it is said that they identified the body as "Michael Jackson" because they refereed to his Driver's license.... so where exactly would MJ have stashed his Driver's License....because wasn't it also mentioned that he was not wearing any clothes at the time? I don't think he would sleep with a wallet in the pocket? Wouldn't they have a family member come in and I.D the body? Or did they have to I.D the body a second time for the autopsy and they just used the license...which mean it could have been anyone...because you can always pretend to be someone else with a different driver's license if you look kinda like the person....and isn't his license picture really old? [I know in NY you don't have to have a new photo taken...there is a guy that is 65 and he still uses his photo from when he was 25. ]
Hello World:
<!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
May I remind you of MJ's words and how they definetly apply here in this section and every where else on this board. I feel I am going to use these lyrics many times as a learning tool. Please read and absorb them. Please apply them when you are reading anything on this board or watching T.V. or reading the tabloids, do not be a junkie to them.
Luv you MJ, God Bless You!
Tabloid Junkie
Speculate to break the one you hate
Circulate the lie you confiscate
Assassinate and mutilate
As the hounding media in hysteria
Who's the next for you to resurrect
JFK exposed the CIA
Truth be told the grassy knoll
As the blackmail story in all your glory
It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
They say he's homosexual
In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory
It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
She's blonde and she's bisexual
Scandal
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Slander
You say it's not a sin
But with your pen you torture men
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
You're so damn disrespectable
<!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: --> Put your truth glasses on people!
I got mine on! <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
One thing about the Autopsy report is that, I think it is said that they identified the body as "Michael Jackson" because they refereed to his Driver's license.... so where exactly would MJ have stashed his Driver's License....because wasn't it also mentioned that he was not wearing any clothes at the time? I don't think he would sleep with a wallet in the pocket? Wouldn't they have a family member come in and I.D the body? Or did they have to I.D the body a second time for the autopsy and they just used the license...which mean it could have been anyone...because you can always pretend to be someone else with a different driver's license if you look kinda like the person....and isn't his license picture really old? [I know in NY you don't have to have a new photo taken...there is a guy that is 65 and he still uses his photo from when he was 25. ]
And remember- the FBI files showed his driver's license, and it said Joe is his middle name, not Joseph!
Hello World:
<!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
May I remind you of MJ's words and how they definetly apply here in this section and every where else on this board. I feel I am going to use these lyrics many times as a learning tool. Please read and absorb them. Please apply them when you are reading anything on this board or watching T.V. or reading the tabloids, do not be a junkie to them.
Luv you MJ, God Bless You!
Tabloid Junkie
Speculate to break the one you hate
Circulate the lie you confiscate
Assassinate and mutilate
As the hounding media in hysteria
Who's the next for you to resurrect
JFK exposed the CIA
Truth be told the grassy knoll
As the blackmail story in all your glory
It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
They say he's homosexual
In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory
It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
She's blonde and she's bisexual
Scandal
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Slander
You say it's not a sin
But with your pen you torture men
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
You're so damn disrespectable
<!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: --> Put your truth glasses on people!
I got mine on! <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
I agree...I heard his music a whole different way when I thought he "died", and now am hearing it a totally different way (but also different from before he "died" also) now that I know he's alive...no matter what the situation it always "speaks" to me...GENIUS... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Now I have had a little idea about part 3-9 of TS Update:
3-9. The Best Is Yet to Come! I am assuming the 3-9 as the date 3/9/2010 (using USA date format)
The date at the end of the Autopsy report (we were redirected there yesterday) is finalised 09/09/09: this is 6 months before TS Update 3-9 (again assuming this as 3/9/2010) "The Best is Yet to Come"
3/9/2010 is 6 months and 6 days after the "funeral" of MJ.
So three 6's 666. Invert them like the MJ autograph code mentioned earlier in this thread = 999 = 3 Nines = 3/9/2010
So does 3/9/2010 = "The Best IS Yet to Come".....reveal? return?
Also - as we know one of the dates when MJ was possibly to "return" was 1/18/2010 and this date is 45 days (inclusive reckoning) before 3/9/2010...4+5=9
Just my rambling thoughts late at night.
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OK, I'm going to risk looking stupid here, but how does 2009-04415 = 7 ????? 2+9+4+4+1+5=25! OK, LOL, as I type this I figured it out! 25 is 2+5=7. Maybe someone else is slow like me and will appreciate this!! CHEERS!
LOL!! you made me laugh so hard!!
I'm so bad decoding numbers <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> lucky for me, there's a lot of people so good at it in this forum.
Lots of L.O.V.E!!!
OK, I'm going to risk looking stupid here, but how does 2009-04415 = 7 ????? 2+9+4+4+1+5=25! OK, LOL, as I type this I figured it out! 25 is 2+5=7. Maybe someone else is slow like me and will appreciate this!! CHEERS!
LOL!! you made me laugh so hard!!
I'm so bad decoding numbers <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> lucky for me, there's a lot of people so good at it in this forum.
Lots of L.O.V.E!!!
WHY IS THE CORONER INVOLVED?
State law requires the Coroner to inquire into and
determine the circumstances, manner, and cause of all
sudden, violent, or unusual deaths and those deaths
where the decedent has not been seen by a physician
20 days prior to death. The deceased will be taken to
the Coroner’s Office and examined by a physician to
discover the cause of death. A death certificate is issued
after the examination is completed. Occasionally, more
extensive testing is required, in which case an interim or
deferred death certificate is issued which will allow the
family to make funeral arrangements. A final death
certificate will be issued following completion of special
testing.
the information contained in this pamphlet will assist you by
providing answers to commonly asked questions.
I don´t understand anything..... I really wish I lived in LA.... so Coroner shouldn´t be involved? if he had his doctor with him?
WHY IS THE CORONER INVOLVED?
State law requires the Coroner to inquire into and
determine the circumstances, manner, and cause of all
sudden, violent, or unusual deaths and those deaths
where the decedent has not been seen by a physician
20 days prior to death. The deceased will be taken to
the Coroner’s Office and examined by a physician to
discover the cause of death. A death certificate is issued
after the examination is completed. Occasionally, more
extensive testing is required, in which case an interim or
deferred death certificate is issued which will allow the
family to make funeral arrangements. A final death
certificate will be issued following completion of special
testing.
the information contained in this pamphlet will assist you by
providing answers to commonly asked questions.
I don´t understand anything..... I really wish I lived in LA.... so Coroner shouldn´t be involved? if he had his doctor with him?
Maybe is my bad english but I understand that the coroner is involved because the physician thing is just another option, like:
the coroner will be involved if:
*there was a sudden death
*violent death
*unusual death
*a death where the decedent has not been seen by a physician 20 days prior to death.
the report was finalised on 9/09/09 but mj was buried on 03/09/09 (3rd of september). do u think this could be significant too?
also, does anybody think that this report may be fake? this report sounds a lot to me, like the "first leaked" autopsy report where it said mj's body was riddled with needle marks. does anybody think this too?
the report was finalised on 9/09/09 but mj was buried on 03/09/09 (3rd of september). do u think this could be significant too?
also, does anybody think that this report may be fake? this report sounds a lot to me, like the "first leaked" autopsy report where it said mj's body was riddled with needle marks. does anybody think this too?
My opinion is that the Autopsy Report is totally fake because of lots of reasons I won't go into in this post..
That is just another thing wrong with it that fact that MJ was "buried" on 09/03/09 (US date format)...yet the last page of the report says it was finalised on 09/09/09...surely they would have had to complete it before his burial.....they had long enough from when he died.
Another thing TIAI is redirecting to the info sheet on the LA Coroner. Should Craig Harvey's name be there somewhere or not?? because it isn't and all along he has been the main person being talked about in the media etc. I wonder if he still actually works there??
WHY IS THE CORONER INVOLVED?
State law requires the Coroner to inquire into and
determine the circumstances, manner, and cause of all
sudden, violent, or unusual deaths and those deaths
where the decedent has not been seen by a physician
20 days prior to death. The deceased will be taken to
the Coroner’s Office and examined by a physician to
discover the cause of death. A death certificate is issued
after the examination is completed. Occasionally, more
extensive testing is required, in which case an interim or
deferred death certificate is issued which will allow the
family to make funeral arrangements. A final death
certificate will be issued following completion of special
testing.
the information contained in this pamphlet will assist you by
providing answers to commonly asked questions.
I don´t understand anything..... I really wish I lived in LA.... so Coroner shouldn´t be involved? if he had his doctor with him?
Maybe is my bad english but I understand that the coroner is involved because the physician thing is just another option, like:
the coroner will be involved if:
*there was a sudden death
*violent death
*unusual death
*a death where the decedent has not been seen by a physician 20 days prior to death.
<!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fOuQQpO5M<!-- m --> ; bravo meme si ce n est pas vraiment les paroles merci les enfants c est superbe j adore et je chiale superbe que dieu vous benissent vraiment Michael sera surement d entendre ca , en tout cas moi j adore kisses
Hello World:
<!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
May I remind you of MJ's words and how they definetly apply here in this section and every where else on this board. I feel I am going to use these lyrics many times as a learning tool. Please read and absorb them. Please apply them when you are reading anything on this board or watching T.V. or reading the tabloids, do not be a junkie to them.
Luv you MJ, God Bless You!
Tabloid Junkie
Speculate to break the one you hate
Circulate the lie you confiscate
Assassinate and mutilate
As the hounding media in hysteria
Who's the next for you to resurrect
JFK exposed the CIA
Truth be told the grassy knoll
As the blackmail story in all your glory
It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
They say he's homosexual
In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory
It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
She's blonde and she's bisexual
Scandal
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Slander
You say it's not a sin
But with your pen you torture men
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
You're so damn disrespectable
<!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: --> Put your truth glasses on people!
I got mine on! <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
My thoughts exactly on this! I am having a hard time understanding how many can beLIEve Michael is alive but yet still want justice for Michael and want Conrad Murray punished, The man didn't do anything wrong, except do what his part is in Michael's plan!!
People also keep beLIEving everything that they see, read, and hear as being real. When Michael himself said it many, many times to not beLIEve everything that is written. I look at the autopsy report and laugh because it is obviously fake. Michael is alive and therefore would not have an autopsy done!! The same with everything that is on TMZ it is so not true and either they are working with MJ and his plan or Michael is making them out to be exactly what he said the tabloids were which is all garbage!!
I do beLIEve Michael is alive and therefore will not beLIEve anything unless it comes from Michael's own mouth! I will read, watch, and observe but take it all with a grain of salt until the day that our precious Michael comes back to us to help carry out his message of LOVE & PEACE in this world!
Please understand I am not trying to hurt anyone or step on any toes here. I am just stating my feelings and opinions. I would never intentionally hurt anyone! I just feel that some are still missing Michael's messages.
I LOVE YOU Michael Forever & Always
Whenever you need me, I'll be there!
Just look over your shoulder Hunny!! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Dear Ts
thanks so much for your update and all Your informative asistance!!! Much L.O.V.E and hugs to You!! and I love and thank everyone here, all contributing together to better understand what is said and things we might have missed- that others have seen or discovered , it helps that we can feel free to ask others for assistance, as it helps better process the information , when You don't have to worry if You aren't getting every word or clue, <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> redirect or hint!! So thanks so much to everyone for Your patience and love !!
<!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> Today in New Zealand time it's Prince's 13th b'day, Saturday 13th and he is 13yrs( MJFC fanclub info) So I send my love out to him and hope he gets an amazing celebration full of much love and happiness and that if MJ and him are apart that the day is blessed in knowledge of each others bond of L.OV.E that can never be broken, but if they are together I am so truly happy as Michael is such a beautiful and loving father that it must would be so hard to miss a momentous moment like this, as this is a big day in a boys (childs life reaching teenagehood) I know MJ would be doing what is absolute best but I pray that they are together but if not I pray that the pain of separation is overwhelmed by the shared union of L.O.V.E they have!!
To You Michael and Your beautiful children, today especially Prince on His special Birthday I wish You all so much love, peace happiness and pure joy!! I hope and pray YOU get to share this special day!! and whether You do or not I pray that Your pain is eased in knowledge that 'You are Always There (here)for them and they know that You 'Love them More' and are 'always in Your Heart , for You'll never let them part'!! (just like You so unconditionally always give of yourself, Your love, so unselfishly to one and for one and all !! and I say to You 'I Love You More' Michael!! and I mean that from the bottom of my heart !! take care and I send You much L.OV.E. PEACE, HAPPINESS AND LIGHT!!
I can't say enough as for me likek others have said You connect us so deeply emotionally that I cry when I watch, see, hear You and to know You are still here with us, brings me tears of pure joy and happiness!! 'I Love You More' I truly do!! take care and in Your own time!! as is said 'Love is patient, Love is kind' and who better and more articulately demonstrates this than You!! So I have learned so much from You and still continue to do, like others have said Your songs continually speak to me and now on so many different levels to what I already experienced. So You are the example to me of how to wait for You, With patience, kindness and L.O.V.E in my heart, always and forever!! You are always with me Spiritually!! Love You love You love you!!
To everyone here sorry to go on I send much love and light to You!!! and I just wanted to finish by sharing with You as we here are on the Eve of Valentines Day and belive it's for everyone to share L.O.V.E even us all whom are single, it is so beautiful to have a day to celebrate L.O.V.E in all it;s forms, to love as MJ does, family friends, children adults , animals,planet Earth the Universe, and I had an idea that I wanted to share how about we all as believers in MJ and his beautiful message, how about we all do or give something in L.O.V.E tomorrow February the 14th Valentines Day to someone or something, an animal or our environment, to show love in some way that is significant to MJ and his belief's and even to whom You do it for, whether they believe or not what we do , but we could tell them leave a note that MJ inspired this in us and we hope to inspire them, in the way MJ ahs us to L.O.V.E all and everyone and every being!! It could be as simple as making MUm Dad Hubby sister brother breakfast in bed or putting out the trash showing some perosn on the street a kindness or making a donation or jsut a note of LOVE to someone, but if we start thsi we can creat A CIRCLE OF LOVE MJ's CIRCLE OF LOVE, i say circle for that is all embracing, no gaps eventually it will be a cirlcle of love around the world, I thought this could help MJ spread the message united as one, all linked to embrace the world with a circle of LOVE and eventually LOVE will conquer all for love is the true power!! and on Twitter there is 'MJ'S CIRCLE OF LOVE' ' to do just that like 'paying it forward' but MJ style, so that eventually we have a continuous circle linking us all- that his message becomes our message and the world's message and when there are no gaps all linked in a circle , as in a circle it's all embracing - the world will be embraced by L.O.V.E!!! So I thought Valentines Day is an Amazingly significant day to start as it too is all about L.O.V.E!!
much L.O.V.E and hugs to You all!! always and forever!! and
'HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!!' To You all!! and if You are alone (like us single ones) please know I am thinking of You and sending You love. and All us here believe in MJ and like others have said we are all connected through Him and so too we are not alone 'we are family' and forever will be ... connected as this is an amazing experience and I too have made so many friends and love each and everyone and all of You. many I have yet to know , beyond here as well !! Through this we have all been already united as one, so we could be the start of something big here, a greater movement! greater than all the 'powers that be' for love will turn the world on it's head and for L.O.V.E is the most powerful tool there is and the most powerful thing in the universe!!
So I will close sorry to go on, I just want to help MJ spread the L.O.V.E and all his messages!!
from the bottom of my heart I love You all!!!
thanks again for all the love and knowlege sharing !! You all Rock!!
So let's 'Rock This World' with L.O.V.E !!
take care and lots of love
Michelle Wilkie
New Zealand!!
Happy Valentines!!! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
For those who lost hope seeing Murray charged, this is another kind of prediction regarding what could happen next (credit to sephia71 from michaeljacksonhoax.lefora):
"it will never go to trial anyway. i'm 90% positive he's going to take a plea deal [bargain]. the max he can get is 4 years. if it goes to trial they will need a change of venue [good luck with that!]. for a 4 year sentence they will whittle it down to 2 years house arrest, 2 years probation/community service, with a hefty fine and limit his practice priviledges. the jacksons will then take him to civil court for wrongful death suit and be awarded a lump sum paid out by his malpractice insurance. the insurance probably won't cover the total amount paid out, so they'll sue him for the difference personally [which he'll file bankruptcy on of course because he has no assets]. now we know why nothing was in his name.[clever!]
if he goes to jail, the inmates will kill him.[i'm not even exaggerating on that!]. that's why the lawyers were so eager for him to surrender and had bond ready. they don't want him in there with the other inmates. since the judge agreed to bond [thinking he's not a flight risk], they must already be talking plea deal. it's an involuntary manslaughter case. they aren't going to spend millions of dollars on a trial with only a 4 year sentence. what they will do is make a "poster child" out of murray. if you thought naomi campbell picking up trash was as punishment for her brush with the law was amusing, hold on to your seat belts for what they will make murray do!
i think this is very real. but i also think they have to go through the steps to keep mj hidden. this also signals to me that he's not coming out of hiding either. all i can say is, murray must have been paid a king's ransom to suffer like this. 75,000 bond? yeah wonder who fronted that? [smile]"
totally agreed. murray has money problems left and right, behind in child support and whatnot. all of a sudden he is able to pay $75,000 bail? that was my first thought: where did this money come from?
naturally, he won't survive jail. he would have to be in isolation and still be in danger everytime he only passes another inmate. anyone in there be a potential killer. vendetta for real...i'm actually surprised he can walk the streets unharmed.
and i also think that he got a very good deal out of this. like: how would you like to get rid of all your financial troubles and stay filthy rich for the rest of your life in exchange for some rough months or even 4 years in jail? if murray is in half as much trouble as reported, he'd say: sure, at your service. what's 4 years? nothing compared to the lush life afterwards...
I respect everyone's opinions. You can not trust TIAI BUT "who would waste months doing this for nothing" should be the question that you guys need to ask to yourselves. Pls do NOT underestimate the work they have been doing! Would you do the same or could you? Read very carefully from day 1 what TIAI has been writing and then decide.
Ok, about the come back day I don't know if it can be true but it seems to me that 3 3 3 is the answer! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> 3rd of March can be the day! It's just my opinion though! I know that TIAI wrote something about 3 9 too but maybe that's when TIAI reveals who he is or they are <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
This is a long, but very touching story which I whish to offer you as a birthday present, Prince-Michael. It is not mine and, unfortunately I don’t know who wrote it in the first place, so I can’t give any credit for it. I’ve just received it the same way that I am sending it to you now. Please excuse the modest translation from Romanian. I know it is not the best wording, but I also know you will understand the message.
In a college classroom a philosophy teacher is training his class…
He wants to explain which is the conflict between philosophy and religion…The teacher, an atheist, points toward one of his new students and asks him:
- You are a Christian, aren’t you?
- Yes sir, I am
- So you do believe that God exists
- Absolutely sir!
- Is it true that God is good?
- Of course, God is good.
- Is God almighty? Can He do anything?
- Yes.
- Are you bad or good?
- The Bible says I’m bad.
- Oh, right, the Bible... look this is a problem for you to solve: let’s suppose that there is an ill person here and that you have the power to heal that person. Would you do this, would you try to heal that person?
- Yes sir, I would.
- So this means you are good.
- I wouldn’t say that…
- But why? You would like to help a sick person if you could…most of us would like to. But God doesn’t.
The student is not answering, so the teacher continues:
- He doesn’t help, does He? My brother was a Christian and he died of cancer, despite the fact that he asked Jesus to heal him. How come Jesus is good? Can you answer this?
The student keeps silence
- You can’t answer, can you?
The teacher sweeps a drip of water in order to give the student the chance to relax
- Let’s start it over: Is God good?
- Well, yes. Answers the student.
- Is Satan good?
- No
- Where is Satan coming from?
The student hesitates a little and then he answers:
- From God
- Correct! God created Satan, didn’t He? Tell me son, is there Evil in this world?
- Yes sir.
- The Evil is everywhere, isn’t it? And God created everything on this world, it’s that correct?
- Yes.
- So who created the Evil? If God created everything, then He also created the Evil. Having in mind that the Evil exists and that the things that we do are the ones that represent us, than God is Evil.
One more time the student doesn’t answer. The teacher asks:
- Is there illness on this world? Immorality? Hate? Uglyness? Do all these awful things exist?
- Yes, answers the student discomforted
- So who created them? Who?
Silence. Sudenly the teacher begins to walk along the classroom. The students are speechless. The teacher addresses to another student:
- Tell me, do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?
- Yes sir, I do, answers the student aloud.
The old teacher stops from his walk and says:
- The science says that we have 5 senses in order to identify and observe the surroundings. Have you ever seen Jesus?
- No sir, I haven’t.
- Then tell us if you’ve ever heard your Jesus? Have you ever tasted Him? Have you ever smelled Him? Have you ever had a sensorial experience of your Jesus or of God?
- No sir, I’m afraid I haven’t.
- And you still believe in him?
- YES
- According to its empiric, verifiable, provable rules, the science says
- Nothing. I just have my faith.
- Yea right, the faith, repeats the teacher. This is the problem that the science has with God. There is no proof, but only the faith.
The student remains silent for a moment, before asking a question on his turn:
- sir, is there such thing as heat?
- Yes.
- And is there such thing as frost?
- Yes son, there is also frost.
- No sir, there is not.
Obviously concerned, the teacher turns toward the student. The classroom suddenly becomes quiet and the student begins his pleading:
- We can talk about “a lot of heat”, “more heat”, “super heat”, “mega heat”, “unlimited heat”, “warmth”, or “no heat at all”, but there is not such thing as “frost”. We can reach 458 degrees under zero, which means “no heat at all”, but we can’t go further. The “frost” doesn’t exist. If it would, we would have reached temperatures even lower than the absolute minimum of -458F degrees. Any body or object worth to be studied if it has or if it generates energy, and the heat is the one that allows to a body or object or material to generate energy. The absolute zero (-458F) means the total absence of heat. So can you see, sir, the “frost” is just a word that we use in order to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure the frost. The heat can be measured in thermal units, because the heat is energy. The frost is not the converse of the heat, but only its absence.
The classroom is wrapped in silence. Somewhere a pen is dropped on the floor like a hammer strike.
- What about darkness, sire? Does the darkness exist?
- Yes, answers the teacher.
- Wrong again, sir. The darkness is not “something”; it is the lack of something. There is “weak light”, “normal light”, “shining light”, “intermittent light”, but if there is no light at all, there is nothing, and this “nothing” is called “darkness”, isn’t it? This is the meaning that we assign to this word. In fact, the “darkness does not exist. If it would have existed, we could have made the darkness even darker, couldn’t we?.
The teacher smiles…this is going to be a grate semester.
- What is your point, young man?
- Sir, I want to say that the philosophical premises you relay your theory on are wrong, which means that the conclusions MUST be wrong too.
This time the teacher cannot hide his wonder:
- Wrong? Can you explain? How come?
- You relay your theory on the duality premises. You claim that there is LIFE and that afterwards there is DEATH; a GOOD God and an EVIL God. You consider the concept of GOD as being finite, something we can measure. Sir, the science cannot even explain what a “thought” is. It uses the electricity and the magnetism, but nobody totally understood or saw them. Considering that the “death” is the converse of “life” means ignoring the fact that the “death” does not exist as a substantial thing. The “death” is not the converse of “life”, but its absence. Now tell me, sir, do you teach your students the theory according to which we evolved from monkeys?
- If you refer to the natural evolution process, yes, of course.
- Have you ever seen the “evolution” with your own eyes, sir?
The teacher continues to smile figuring where the student is trying to turn the argument…a grate semester, indeed
- Considering that nobody really observed the evolution process and nobody can prove that it is happening, I could draw the conclusion that you contradict your own believes when you teach your students about the natural evolution process. So, what are you now: a science man, or a preacher? Please allow me to give you an example in order to continue the demonstration you’ve just begun earlier. Is there any of you (he is addressing to his colleagues) who actually saw the teacher’s brain? The classroom bursts into laughter. Is there any of you who smelled the teacher’s brain? Who heard it? Who felt it? So, according to the empiric rules based on the provable protocol, the science says, with all the respect, sir, that you have no brain. If the science says this, how can we trust your class, sir?
The classroom is silenced now. The teacher is staring to his student with a impenetrable expression on his face. After a lull that seamed lasting for ages, the old teacher answers:
- I suppose you will simply have to believe it.
- So you admit that there is such thing as faith and in fact the faith exists together with the life. Now sir, does the EVIL exist?
- Of course it does, we can see it every day. The Evil is seen daily due to the man’s lack of humanity. It is seen in all the crimes and the violence which happen all-around the world. These facts are nothing else but the EVIL itself.
- The EVIL does not exist, sir. The EVIL is simply the absence of GOD. It is – just like the darkness and the frost – a word created by man in order to describe the absence of GOD. It is not GOD who created the EVIL. The EVIL is what happens when the love of God is absent from one human’s heart. It is just like the frost that appears when there is no heat at all or like the darkness that appears when there is no light.
The teacher seated down, speechless.
Your lovely father understood longtime ago the moral of this story. I know there are many others that also understood it. BUT the particularity that made your daddy special for this world is that he dedicated all his life to the try of making everybody seeing this truth. He always found the best way to make this world remembering this precious thing, feeling it and whishing to carry it forward. The fact that he knew that the Evil is just the absence of God, helped him going on even in his worst days, because only by spreading God’s word and wisdom the Evil can be weakened.
Dear Prince, be strong and proud and pure, keep the faith and whatever happens follow your own way, listen to your call. I know some people could have high expectation from you, due to the overwhelming standards of your father, but please do not let yourself discouraged by this comparison. Each of us is unique in his own way and God let every one of us with a special purpose on this Earth … when you will figure out which one is yours, you will know it and you will follow it and you will shine just as beautiful as your daddy, or maybe even better. God bless you and your wonderful family! Happy Birthday!
Ralu !! my dear friend!! You are truly beautiful <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> and what You put!! makes me so emotional!! I truly believe that Prinnce Paris and Blanket will all be unique and beautiful in their own way !! and I totally agree with the public eye on them everyday!! With a Dad like You Michael they will never go wrong, for You have guided them well, You can see that a mile away!! With great dignity and pride You have raised them and much much love You can see that!! and if everyone was a parent like You the world would be a much better place!!
lots of love MY and to Your Children and Family
Michelle
Ralu You are truly beautiful and much love to YOu and Your family too and Your translation was beautiful!!
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May I remind you of MJ's words and how they definetly apply here in this section and every where else on this board. I feel I am going to use these lyrics many times as a learning tool. Please read and absorb them. Please apply them when you are reading anything on this board or watching T.V. or reading the tabloids, do not be a junkie to them.
Luv you MJ, God Bless You!
Tabloid Junkie
Speculate to break the one you hate
Circulate the lie you confiscate
Assassinate and mutilate
As the hounding media in hysteria
Who's the next for you to resurrect
JFK exposed the CIA
Truth be told the grassy knoll
As the blackmail story in all your glory
It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
They say he's homosexual
In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory
It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
She's blonde and she's bisexual
Scandal
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Slander
You say it's not a sin
But with your pen you torture men
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
You're so damn disrespectable
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I agree...I heard his music a whole different way when I thought he "died", and now am hearing it a totally different way (but also different from before he "died" also) now that I know he's alive...no matter what the situation it always "speaks" to me...GENIUS... <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
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Now I have had a little idea about part 3-9 of TS Update:
3-9. The Best Is Yet to Come! I am assuming the 3-9 as the date 3/9/2010 (using USA date format)
The date at the end of the Autopsy report (we were redirected there yesterday) is finalised 09/09/09: this is 6 months before TS Update 3-9 (again assuming this as 3/9/2010) "The Best is Yet to Come"
3/9/2010 is 6 months and 6 days after the "funeral" of MJ.
So three 6's 666. Invert them like the MJ autograph code mentioned earlier in this thread = 999 = 3 Nines = 3/9/2010
So does 3/9/2010 = "The Best IS Yet to Come".....reveal? return?
Also - as we know one of the dates when MJ was possibly to "return" was 1/18/2010 and this date is 45 days (inclusive reckoning) before 3/9/2010...4+5=9
Just my rambling thoughts late at night.
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Lots of L.O.V.E!!!
he he....
No Craig Harvey..... and what about this?
WHY IS THE CORONER INVOLVED?
State law requires the Coroner to inquire into and
determine the circumstances, manner, and cause of all
sudden, violent, or unusual deaths and those deaths
where the decedent has not been seen by a physician
20 days prior to death. The deceased will be taken to
the Coroner’s Office and examined by a physician to
discover the cause of death. A death certificate is issued
after the examination is completed. Occasionally, more
extensive testing is required, in which case an interim or
deferred death certificate is issued which will allow the
family to make funeral arrangements. A final death
certificate will be issued following completion of special
testing.
the information contained in this pamphlet will assist you by
providing answers to commonly asked questions.
I don´t understand anything..... I really wish I lived in LA.... so Coroner shouldn´t be involved? if he had his doctor with him?
Maybe is my bad english but I understand that the coroner is involved because the physician thing is just another option, like:
the coroner will be involved if:
*there was a sudden death
*violent death
*unusual death
*a death where the decedent has not been seen by a physician 20 days prior to death.
O.o maybe I'm wrong
Lots of L.O.V.E!
also, does anybody think that this report may be fake? this report sounds a lot to me, like the "first leaked" autopsy report where it said mj's body was riddled with needle marks. does anybody think this too?
My opinion is that the Autopsy Report is totally fake because of lots of reasons I won't go into in this post..
That is just another thing wrong with it that fact that MJ was "buried" on 09/03/09 (US date format)...yet the last page of the report says it was finalised on 09/09/09...surely they would have had to complete it before his burial.....they had long enough from when he died.
Another thing TIAI is redirecting to the info sheet on the LA Coroner. Should Craig Harvey's name be there somewhere or not?? because it isn't and all along he has been the main person being talked about in the media etc. I wonder if he still actually works there??
I see..... thank you!!
My thoughts exactly on this! I am having a hard time understanding how many can beLIEve Michael is alive but yet still want justice for Michael and want Conrad Murray punished, The man didn't do anything wrong, except do what his part is in Michael's plan!!
People also keep beLIEving everything that they see, read, and hear as being real. When Michael himself said it many, many times to not beLIEve everything that is written. I look at the autopsy report and laugh because it is obviously fake. Michael is alive and therefore would not have an autopsy done!! The same with everything that is on TMZ it is so not true and either they are working with MJ and his plan or Michael is making them out to be exactly what he said the tabloids were which is all garbage!!
I do beLIEve Michael is alive and therefore will not beLIEve anything unless it comes from Michael's own mouth! I will read, watch, and observe but take it all with a grain of salt until the day that our precious Michael comes back to us to help carry out his message of LOVE & PEACE in this world!
Please understand I am not trying to hurt anyone or step on any toes here. I am just stating my feelings and opinions. I would never intentionally hurt anyone! I just feel that some are still missing Michael's messages.
I LOVE YOU Michael Forever & Always
Whenever you need me, I'll be there!
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thanks so much for your update and all Your informative asistance!!! Much L.O.V.E and hugs to You!! and I love and thank everyone here, all contributing together to better understand what is said and things we might have missed- that others have seen or discovered , it helps that we can feel free to ask others for assistance, as it helps better process the information , when You don't have to worry if You aren't getting every word or clue, <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> redirect or hint!! So thanks so much to everyone for Your patience and love !!
<!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> Today in New Zealand time it's Prince's 13th b'day, Saturday 13th and he is 13yrs( MJFC fanclub info) So I send my love out to him and hope he gets an amazing celebration full of much love and happiness and that if MJ and him are apart that the day is blessed in knowledge of each others bond of L.OV.E that can never be broken, but if they are together I am so truly happy as Michael is such a beautiful and loving father that it must would be so hard to miss a momentous moment like this, as this is a big day in a boys (childs life reaching teenagehood) I know MJ would be doing what is absolute best but I pray that they are together but if not I pray that the pain of separation is overwhelmed by the shared union of L.O.V.E they have!!
To You Michael and Your beautiful children, today especially Prince on His special Birthday I wish You all so much love, peace happiness and pure joy!! I hope and pray YOU get to share this special day!! and whether You do or not I pray that Your pain is eased in knowledge that 'You are Always There (here)for them and they know that You 'Love them More' and are 'always in Your Heart , for You'll never let them part'!! (just like You so unconditionally always give of yourself, Your love, so unselfishly to one and for one and all !! and I say to You 'I Love You More' Michael!! and I mean that from the bottom of my heart !! take care and I send You much L.OV.E. PEACE, HAPPINESS AND LIGHT!!
I can't say enough as for me likek others have said You connect us so deeply emotionally that I cry when I watch, see, hear You and to know You are still here with us, brings me tears of pure joy and happiness!! 'I Love You More' I truly do!! take care and in Your own time!! as is said 'Love is patient, Love is kind' and who better and more articulately demonstrates this than You!! So I have learned so much from You and still continue to do, like others have said Your songs continually speak to me and now on so many different levels to what I already experienced. So You are the example to me of how to wait for You, With patience, kindness and L.O.V.E in my heart, always and forever!! You are always with me Spiritually!! Love You love You love you!!
To everyone here sorry to go on I send much love and light to You!!! and I just wanted to finish by sharing with You as we here are on the Eve of Valentines Day and belive it's for everyone to share L.O.V.E even us all whom are single, it is so beautiful to have a day to celebrate L.O.V.E in all it;s forms, to love as MJ does, family friends, children adults , animals,planet Earth the Universe, and I had an idea that I wanted to share how about we all as believers in MJ and his beautiful message, how about we all do or give something in L.O.V.E tomorrow February the 14th Valentines Day to someone or something, an animal or our environment, to show love in some way that is significant to MJ and his belief's and even to whom You do it for, whether they believe or not what we do , but we could tell them leave a note that MJ inspired this in us and we hope to inspire them, in the way MJ ahs us to L.O.V.E all and everyone and every being!! It could be as simple as making MUm Dad Hubby sister brother breakfast in bed or putting out the trash showing some perosn on the street a kindness or making a donation or jsut a note of LOVE to someone, but if we start thsi we can creat A CIRCLE OF LOVE MJ's CIRCLE OF LOVE, i say circle for that is all embracing, no gaps eventually it will be a cirlcle of love around the world, I thought this could help MJ spread the message united as one, all linked to embrace the world with a circle of LOVE and eventually LOVE will conquer all for love is the true power!! and on Twitter there is 'MJ'S CIRCLE OF LOVE' ' to do just that like 'paying it forward' but MJ style, so that eventually we have a continuous circle linking us all- that his message becomes our message and the world's message and when there are no gaps all linked in a circle , as in a circle it's all embracing - the world will be embraced by L.O.V.E!!! So I thought Valentines Day is an Amazingly significant day to start as it too is all about L.O.V.E!!
much L.O.V.E and hugs to You all!! always and forever!! and
'HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!!' To You all!! and if You are alone (like us single ones) please know I am thinking of You and sending You love. and All us here believe in MJ and like others have said we are all connected through Him and so too we are not alone 'we are family' and forever will be ... connected as this is an amazing experience and I too have made so many friends and love each and everyone and all of You. many I have yet to know , beyond here as well !! Through this we have all been already united as one, so we could be the start of something big here, a greater movement! greater than all the 'powers that be' for love will turn the world on it's head and for L.O.V.E is the most powerful tool there is and the most powerful thing in the universe!!
So I will close sorry to go on, I just want to help MJ spread the L.O.V.E and all his messages!!
from the bottom of my heart I love You all!!!
thanks again for all the love and knowlege sharing !! You all Rock!!
So let's 'Rock This World' with L.O.V.E !!
take care and lots of love
Michelle Wilkie
New Zealand!!
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Adi
xxx
totally agreed. murray has money problems left and right, behind in child support and whatnot. all of a sudden he is able to pay $75,000 bail? that was my first thought: where did this money come from?
naturally, he won't survive jail. he would have to be in isolation and still be in danger everytime he only passes another inmate. anyone in there be a potential killer. vendetta for real...i'm actually surprised he can walk the streets unharmed.
and i also think that he got a very good deal out of this. like: how would you like to get rid of all your financial troubles and stay filthy rich for the rest of your life in exchange for some rough months or even 4 years in jail? if murray is in half as much trouble as reported, he'd say: sure, at your service. what's 4 years? nothing compared to the lush life afterwards...
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Ohhhhhhhh...we LOVE you too Michael (and TIAI and STUDY and TS!!!)
Happy Valentines Day
Much LOVE
xxx
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In a college classroom a philosophy teacher is training his class…
He wants to explain which is the conflict between philosophy and religion…The teacher, an atheist, points toward one of his new students and asks him:
- You are a Christian, aren’t you?
- Yes sir, I am
- So you do believe that God exists
- Absolutely sir!
- Is it true that God is good?
- Of course, God is good.
- Is God almighty? Can He do anything?
- Yes.
- Are you bad or good?
- The Bible says I’m bad.
- Oh, right, the Bible... look this is a problem for you to solve: let’s suppose that there is an ill person here and that you have the power to heal that person. Would you do this, would you try to heal that person?
- Yes sir, I would.
- So this means you are good.
- I wouldn’t say that…
- But why? You would like to help a sick person if you could…most of us would like to. But God doesn’t.
The student is not answering, so the teacher continues:
- He doesn’t help, does He? My brother was a Christian and he died of cancer, despite the fact that he asked Jesus to heal him. How come Jesus is good? Can you answer this?
The student keeps silence
- You can’t answer, can you?
The teacher sweeps a drip of water in order to give the student the chance to relax
- Let’s start it over: Is God good?
- Well, yes. Answers the student.
- Is Satan good?
- No
- Where is Satan coming from?
The student hesitates a little and then he answers:
- From God
- Correct! God created Satan, didn’t He? Tell me son, is there Evil in this world?
- Yes sir.
- The Evil is everywhere, isn’t it? And God created everything on this world, it’s that correct?
- Yes.
- So who created the Evil? If God created everything, then He also created the Evil. Having in mind that the Evil exists and that the things that we do are the ones that represent us, than God is Evil.
One more time the student doesn’t answer. The teacher asks:
- Is there illness on this world? Immorality? Hate? Uglyness? Do all these awful things exist?
- Yes, answers the student discomforted
- So who created them? Who?
Silence. Sudenly the teacher begins to walk along the classroom. The students are speechless. The teacher addresses to another student:
- Tell me, do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?
- Yes sir, I do, answers the student aloud.
The old teacher stops from his walk and says:
- The science says that we have 5 senses in order to identify and observe the surroundings. Have you ever seen Jesus?
- No sir, I haven’t.
- Then tell us if you’ve ever heard your Jesus? Have you ever tasted Him? Have you ever smelled Him? Have you ever had a sensorial experience of your Jesus or of God?
- No sir, I’m afraid I haven’t.
- And you still believe in him?
- YES
- According to its empiric, verifiable, provable rules, the science says
- Nothing. I just have my faith.
- Yea right, the faith, repeats the teacher. This is the problem that the science has with God. There is no proof, but only the faith.
The student remains silent for a moment, before asking a question on his turn:
- sir, is there such thing as heat?
- Yes.
- And is there such thing as frost?
- Yes son, there is also frost.
- No sir, there is not.
Obviously concerned, the teacher turns toward the student. The classroom suddenly becomes quiet and the student begins his pleading:
- We can talk about “a lot of heat”, “more heat”, “super heat”, “mega heat”, “unlimited heat”, “warmth”, or “no heat at all”, but there is not such thing as “frost”. We can reach 458 degrees under zero, which means “no heat at all”, but we can’t go further. The “frost” doesn’t exist. If it would, we would have reached temperatures even lower than the absolute minimum of -458F degrees. Any body or object worth to be studied if it has or if it generates energy, and the heat is the one that allows to a body or object or material to generate energy. The absolute zero (-458F) means the total absence of heat. So can you see, sir, the “frost” is just a word that we use in order to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure the frost. The heat can be measured in thermal units, because the heat is energy. The frost is not the converse of the heat, but only its absence.
The classroom is wrapped in silence. Somewhere a pen is dropped on the floor like a hammer strike.
- What about darkness, sire? Does the darkness exist?
- Yes, answers the teacher.
- Wrong again, sir. The darkness is not “something”; it is the lack of something. There is “weak light”, “normal light”, “shining light”, “intermittent light”, but if there is no light at all, there is nothing, and this “nothing” is called “darkness”, isn’t it? This is the meaning that we assign to this word. In fact, the “darkness does not exist. If it would have existed, we could have made the darkness even darker, couldn’t we?.
The teacher smiles…this is going to be a grate semester.
- What is your point, young man?
- Sir, I want to say that the philosophical premises you relay your theory on are wrong, which means that the conclusions MUST be wrong too.
This time the teacher cannot hide his wonder:
- Wrong? Can you explain? How come?
- You relay your theory on the duality premises. You claim that there is LIFE and that afterwards there is DEATH; a GOOD God and an EVIL God. You consider the concept of GOD as being finite, something we can measure. Sir, the science cannot even explain what a “thought” is. It uses the electricity and the magnetism, but nobody totally understood or saw them. Considering that the “death” is the converse of “life” means ignoring the fact that the “death” does not exist as a substantial thing. The “death” is not the converse of “life”, but its absence. Now tell me, sir, do you teach your students the theory according to which we evolved from monkeys?
- If you refer to the natural evolution process, yes, of course.
- Have you ever seen the “evolution” with your own eyes, sir?
The teacher continues to smile figuring where the student is trying to turn the argument…a grate semester, indeed
- Considering that nobody really observed the evolution process and nobody can prove that it is happening, I could draw the conclusion that you contradict your own believes when you teach your students about the natural evolution process. So, what are you now: a science man, or a preacher? Please allow me to give you an example in order to continue the demonstration you’ve just begun earlier. Is there any of you (he is addressing to his colleagues) who actually saw the teacher’s brain? The classroom bursts into laughter. Is there any of you who smelled the teacher’s brain? Who heard it? Who felt it? So, according to the empiric rules based on the provable protocol, the science says, with all the respect, sir, that you have no brain. If the science says this, how can we trust your class, sir?
The classroom is silenced now. The teacher is staring to his student with a impenetrable expression on his face. After a lull that seamed lasting for ages, the old teacher answers:
- I suppose you will simply have to believe it.
- So you admit that there is such thing as faith and in fact the faith exists together with the life. Now sir, does the EVIL exist?
- Of course it does, we can see it every day. The Evil is seen daily due to the man’s lack of humanity. It is seen in all the crimes and the violence which happen all-around the world. These facts are nothing else but the EVIL itself.
- The EVIL does not exist, sir. The EVIL is simply the absence of GOD. It is – just like the darkness and the frost – a word created by man in order to describe the absence of GOD. It is not GOD who created the EVIL. The EVIL is what happens when the love of God is absent from one human’s heart. It is just like the frost that appears when there is no heat at all or like the darkness that appears when there is no light.
The teacher seated down, speechless.
Your lovely father understood longtime ago the moral of this story. I know there are many others that also understood it. BUT the particularity that made your daddy special for this world is that he dedicated all his life to the try of making everybody seeing this truth. He always found the best way to make this world remembering this precious thing, feeling it and whishing to carry it forward. The fact that he knew that the Evil is just the absence of God, helped him going on even in his worst days, because only by spreading God’s word and wisdom the Evil can be weakened.
Dear Prince, be strong and proud and pure, keep the faith and whatever happens follow your own way, listen to your call. I know some people could have high expectation from you, due to the overwhelming standards of your father, but please do not let yourself discouraged by this comparison. Each of us is unique in his own way and God let every one of us with a special purpose on this Earth … when you will figure out which one is yours, you will know it and you will follow it and you will shine just as beautiful as your daddy, or maybe even better. God bless you and your wonderful family! Happy Birthday!
lots of love MY and to Your Children and Family
Michelle
Ralu You are truly beautiful and much love to YOu and Your family too and Your translation was beautiful!!
all my love and HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO YOU ALL!! SPREAD THE LOVE!! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->