TIAI Update #3: Murray, TMZ, & Feb 5 Predicted in Update #2

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  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    @TS

    As I see on all hoax forums, people are confused about Karen Faye, Randy Jackson and Brian Oxman. As we all know Karen Faye has been telling everyone that she saw Michael's dead body and he left his children fatherless etc. Then she made thousands of fans to call DA and LAPD about Murray case and she pointed her finger to Kenny Ortega and blamed him for killing Michael.

    And on Murray's trial Randy Jackson made a tweet and blamed AEG and Kenny Ortega too. Thousands of fans hate Kenny.

    And then Brian Oxman came to the show and asked fans to call LAPD to ask for justice for Michael.

    Believers ask why they need to behave like this and do this all if this is a hoax and if Michael is going to come back? How are they going to explain it after Michael comes back? This confuses people a lot.

    So, we all would be so much appreciated if you tell us about this issue. Thank you in advance. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • raluralu Posts: 97
    @Purelove, IDK if TS will answer this, coz I feel that this is part of the script, you know?
    But, please, let me give you an example about what the answer could be about: When we think about believing (in a higher force), many of us feel like our faith is tested from time to time. And what better way to find for bracing our faith than passing those tests with bright colors? These nonsense facts that seam to contradict our believings, have the role of training and binding our faith. We cannot find an explanation about why they happen, but meantime, struggling to understand them, we can find 1000 other reasons that confirm our believing, so instead of our faith to diminish as a result of all the questionable aspects, it becomes stronger. In the end we will not even pay attention on those things that could shake our faith, because we are going to be already "trained" and very well taught. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Well, I think the same pattern is applied here with all the aspects you mentioned before. Maybe in the end they will be revealed as "teaching" instruments. Minor traps placed there for us to learn something...just maybe. Hugs.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    @Purelove, IDK if TS will answer this, coz I feel that this is part of the script, you know?
    But, please, let me give you an example about what the answer could be about: When we think about believing (in a higher force), many of us feel like our faith is tested from time to time. And what better way to find for bracing our faith than passing those tests with bright colors? These nonsense facts that seam to contradict our believings, have the role of training and binding our faith. We cannot find an explanation about why they happen, but meantime, struggling to understand them, we can find 1000 other reasons that confirm our believing, so instead of our faith to diminish as a result of all the questionable aspects, it becomes stronger. In the end we will not even pay attention on those things that could shake our faith, because we are going to be already "trained" and very well taught. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Well, I think the same pattern is applied here with all the aspects you mentioned before. Maybe in the end they will be revealed as "teaching" instruments. Minor traps placed there for us to learn something...just maybe. Hugs.

    Hi ralu sweets. Actually I know it is. There're two kinds of people in this hoax. 1-The ones who know the hoax, never deny it and try to give us clues (like Kenny) 2-The ones who know the hoax but always deny the hoax, call us freaks (like most of them lol)
    BUT there had to be the second type too otherwise everyone would have learnt about the hoax long time ago.

    I didn't ask TS for myself because I DO know that Michael is alive 100% and why he did this etc. BUT I see people are losing their hopes. I try to explain them but it doesn't work. That's the reason why I asked TS to tell things about them. HUGS back at you <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • the report was finalised on 9/09/09 but mj was buried on 03/09/09 (3rd of september). do u think this could be significant too?

    also, does anybody think that this report may be fake? this report sounds a lot to me, like the "first leaked" autopsy report where it said mj's body was riddled with needle marks. does anybody think this too?

    My opinion is that the Autopsy Report is totally fake because of lots of reasons I won't go into in this post..

    That is just another thing wrong with it that fact that MJ was "buried" on 09/03/09 (US date format)...yet the last page of the report says it was finalised on 09/09/09...surely they would have had to complete it before his burial.....they had long enough from when he died.

    Another thing TIAI is redirecting to the info sheet on the LA Coroner. Should Craig Harvey's name be there somewhere or not?? because it isn't and all along he has been the main person being talked about in the media etc. I wonder if he still actually works there??

    yeah good point. so many questions involved in this case
  • raluralu Posts: 97
    @Purelove, IDK if TS will answer this, coz I feel that this is part of the script, you know?
    But, please, let me give you an example about what the answer could be about: When we think about believing (in a higher force), many of us feel like our faith is tested from time to time. And what better way to find for bracing our faith than passing those tests with bright colors? These nonsense facts that seam to contradict our believings, have the role of training and binding our faith. We cannot find an explanation about why they happen, but meantime, struggling to understand them, we can find 1000 other reasons that confirm our believing, so instead of our faith to diminish as a result of all the questionable aspects, it becomes stronger. In the end we will not even pay attention on those things that could shake our faith, because we are going to be already "trained" and very well taught. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Well, I think the same pattern is applied here with all the aspects you mentioned before. Maybe in the end they will be revealed as "teaching" instruments. Minor traps placed there for us to learn something...just maybe. Hugs.

    Hi ralu sweets. Actually I know it is. There're two kinds of people in this hoax. 1-The ones who know the hoax, never deny it and try to give us clues (like Kenny) 2-The ones who know the hoax but always deny the hoax, call us freaks (like most of them lol)
    BUT there had to be the second type too otherwise everyone would have learnt about the hoax long time ago.

    I didn't ask TS for myself because I DO know that Michael is alive 100% and why he did this etc. BUT I see people are losing their hopes. I try to explain them but it doesn't work. That's the reason why I asked TS to tell things about them. HUGS back at you <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> I know you know, but I felt the need of confirming this, you know? You mentioned the siblings before. As far as I know they didn't deny the hoax either. They have just spliter in 2 teams for the purpose of this "performance art" which we call a hoax. Otherwise, why didn't any of them come and say "Dear MJ fans, please stop fantasising about our brother being alive, coz he's definetely not, and you are just fooled by a bunch of proffitors that whant to take advantage from his death". Well? I find impossible to believe that they have no idea about the hoax theory.

    As for the ones that loose hope, well, I think that what this beautiful hoax-experience tried to point from the beginning was that there is no other way to understand what is happening BUT through your own mind and eyes and heart. You can explain in all possible ways the reason of this hoax and the purpose of the different fishy events that appeares in the spotlight, but if your interlocutor doesn't actually FEEL it, THINK it, SEE it for hiself, he might agree with you, but will change his mind on the first sign of discrepancy. Ofcourse that the final purpose of the hoax is to make us applying this principle in every single aspect of our life, in every situation we have to deal with (think for yourself, look deep in your heart and do what it tells you it's right and fair, don't let yourself influenced by the media or other persons' opinions, when a whole world is wrong, you might be the one who's right). We often have the impression that we understood this, but we realize soon that we still need to practice IF we really want to learn and to apply those rules. Take for exemple the present TIAI redirect and this speaks volumes IMO. This is exactely what I try to point: unless you FEEL these "rules", you cannot apply them. Unless you FEEL MJ is alive, you will never actually believe this...maybe not even when you will have the chance to see him withyour own eyes.
    Love & Peace to all of you. HUGS.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    @ralu

    yep but I still believe that people need to hear the answer from TS. Not everyone is reading your posts or mine but most believers read TIAI Updates <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> If the questions are answered, they will be less confused. But thanx for your replies. Hope you helped the ones who started to lose hope <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • raluralu Posts: 97
    @ralu

    yep but I still believe that people need to hear the answer from TS. Not everyone is reading your posts or mine but most believers read TIAI Updates <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> If the questions are answered, they will be less confused. But thanx for your replies. Hope you helped the ones who started to lose hope <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    I agree we have to be there for those who need us. I just try to put out my thoughts and feelings for them, and I will always do this from now on, but I will not be too keen to make them see what I do. They are usually less confused for the moment, but not totally convinced about certain truths, so my conclusion is that they HAVE to find their own truths; they may wait fot TS or someone else to answer, but it will not be enough. This is what I try to advise the ones who lose hope: trust in your own mind and intuition. Have a moment with yourself, ignore all the other opinions for a moment and try to draw your own conclusion, your own truth. Then you wil feel better, nomatter what that conclusion will be about...Of course this is only MY conclusion and it is not necesarry the correst one. Hugs, Love & Peace
  • Thank you for the redirect today! The video was very interesting as the analyst kept repeating that the jury may dismiss the case or they may not be any charges at all because of the drug, and that the Murrays refuse to comment on any source that is un-named-but will happy to answer any of the police's questions

    And how there was supposed to be a THIRD meeting between the LAPD and Murray and it was POSTPONED (DELAYED) until further notice, but there is no debate

    As you said, there have been many "delays" that have been quoted with this hoax

    ARMY OF L.O.V.E.

    The whole point of TuPac and Michael faking their deaths is to have people stop being puppets and believe everything the media says, insteda of listening to their music-watching their performances-and seeing what they're really about, what the truth is, and what they have to say about it.
    Funny how those who speak out against the government, media, etc. are the "weird" ones they have to take down in court--but the truth evils and worse killers are the same ones who wanna keep these people under wraps and take them down. The truth always survives, just as these two great men have displayed "in the greatest demostration of freedom our nation has ever seen."

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  • je n ai plus le moral ; j arrete tout , j en ai marre des verites et contre verites, ça fait huit mois que je travaille toutes les nuits sans relache , j en ai marre des fakes et des personnes qui se font passer pour d autres et en plus je n arrive a convaincre personne , je suis fatiguee, je suis desolee je tenais a vous dire bonne continuation TS , mjalive999, souza ......... que dieu vous benisse tous bisous de normandie france
  • IDK3MJIDK3MJ Posts: 57
    For TS:

    Dear TS,

    i was reading this side thinking (on the begining) that u r just a guy, who spends a lot of time, investigating MJ hoax. Good-i have no time, so it was good to look at youtube channel and your side to compare.
    But when u gave the 3rd upadate, i read once againe most of your previous posts. I was shocked. I undestood much more...i opened most of your links....(the most interesting was eastern eggs)...
    I read a chronology part from your nr 3 update again and realized....u are also a part of a game, because it is a game, isn't it? (chronology solved all my questions) haha, the best one i have ever taken a part in.....good job - marketing....i have also worked a few years in marketing...
    wow...i really belive that it must have taken years to prepare everything, MJ has gotten a lot of time since his last world tour...i belive that in every country there is someone like u working on similar web page, u gave links to many of them...haha, but this one seems to be the biggest....so, i admire your work and friendship with Michael....
    Tell him please, that the game is nice, but...not many of us can play it all the time....we must work, we have families and responsibilities...so there is no much time to spend to STUDY all the time....tell Micheal, that the game was scary on the beginning (when he "died"), fascinating (revealing the hoax) but when it takes too long...players can be exhausted and some could finish the game...

    of course there is much more important things covering the hoax, i mean reasons why Michael "died" and the way he turned people on important (NWO< Illuminati, planet etc.) subjects is extreme...and he succeded....

    but for me the worst thing in life is disappointment....we all here count on Michael.....don't let him disappoint us by not coming back......i believe he will. (this is obvious he is alive)...cause he LOVES us, and he can't comedown us, can he?


    So dear friends, i advise u to re read previous posts wrote by TS, when u read them now, they will have clues u could't see before, because i also was reading it from word to word, but all we have to do is to read between the words and open links....TS is also involved in THIS IS IT!!!

    Good job TS, for me the case is solved....i try to be good investigator, cause my sister's husband is a prosecutor....and i love Thillers....<!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->:):):):)

    Yvonne




    Dear Friends:

    as i wrote before, this update gave me enough clues to know, how it will all end, sooner or later....i realized the final countdown has started. I understand people who are on emotional rollercoaster....25.06.2009 was a long time ago, but we all still live the case, especcially when Murray is in court,

    but this what RALU wrote made me to think...maybe it must take some time more...to finish whole MJ's plan, until the Verdict of the court = V for Vendetta.

    And still the eastern eggs are not found yet.....

    i think that this TS's update gave so many clues, that lot of us understood all the plan and became exhoused of looking proofes MJ is ok and well and exhoused of fighting with NOT BELIEVERS, and that is the reason of their faith lost for a moment. But i think that they already came that crisis - positively, and even if they don't write posts here they still read TIAI.

    Now the most important thing is to spread MJ's massage and understand our role (fans) in a hoax. As TS wrote in one of his posts:

    "TS WROTE:
    R27. “WHEN the Disciples Gathered Around Him …”
    {http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts 14:20&amp;version=NKJV}


    “However, WHEN the disciples gathered around him, he rose up and went into the city. And the next day he departed with Barnabas to Derbe.” (Acts 14:20, NKJV). As usual, not only was the quoted verse important, but also the context (previous verse): “Then Jews from Antioch and Iconium came there; and having persuaded the multitudes, they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the city, supposing him to be dead.”

    Here again we have parallels, like with David: enemies trying to kill him, God saving him from death, yet they think that he is dead (like most think MJ is dead), and then a “resurrection” and return to public life (he rose up, etc).

    Although many saw the parallels here, it seems that nobody noticed the key word “WHEN” (which is why I have emphasized it here). Do you want to see MJ return to public view? Of course, we all do! Then we need to “gather around him” by joining Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E. (see R28 & R39)."


    So, i hope we - Belivers - are still on MJ's side and are ready TO BE THERE FOR HIM.

    Yvonne
  • IDK3MJIDK3MJ Posts: 57
    "ralu&quot wrote:
    ....Your lovely father understood long time ago the moral of this story. I know there are many others that also understood it. BUT the particularity that made your daddy special for this world is that he dedicated all his life to the try of making everybody seeing this truth. He always found the best way to make this world remembering this precious thing, feeling it and whishing to carry it forward. The fact that he knew that the Evil is just the absence of God, helped him going on even in his worst days, because only by spreading God’s word and wisdom the Evil can be weakened.

    Ralu:
    these sentences are important, and the story is exellent !!! I wonder why newspapers don't print such stories to teach us and children what is important in life and how we should understand thing that sciens can't measure, instead of the rubbish i find in most of media's news. That is why i DON'T BUY NEWSPAPERS AT ALL. This is my fight with MEDIA. NO DEMAND = NO SUPPLY, economic states.

    But regarding to Your statemnets: there are many more people who understand he truth and, f.e. me, i would like to join some kind of organization to HELP people and the world, but i don't know which ones i could trust, there are so many of fronts/covers for BAD business....MJ could create the one, where most people could act...from all over the world.....with responsibilities given.....THAT IS MY DREAM.....

    if someone knows where i can join (i live in Poland, Europe) please let me know (<!-- e --><a href="mailto:iwona.kowalska3@poczta.onet.pl">iwona.kowalska3@poczta.onet.pl</a><!-- e -->) on my email,

    thank U Ralu again for great post!!!

    MJ: I am still there for U,


    Yvonne
  • IDK3MJIDK3MJ Posts: 57
    ....Your lovely father understood long time ago the moral of this story. I know there are many others that also understood it. BUT the particularity that made your daddy special for this world is that he dedicated all his life to the try of making everybody seeing this truth. He always found the best way to make this world remembering this precious thing, feeling it and whishing to carry it forward. The fact that he knew that the Evil is just the absence of God, helped him going on even in his worst days, because only by spreading God’s word and wisdom the Evil can be weakened.

    Ralu:
    these sentences are important, and the story is exellent !!! I wonder why newspapers don't print such stories to teach us and children what is important in life and how we should understand things that scientists can't measure, instead of the rubbish i find in most of media's news. That is why i DON'T BUY NEWSPAPERS AT ALL. This is my fight with MEDIA. NO DEMAND = NO SUPPLY, economic says.

    But regarding to Your statemnets: there are many more people who understand the truth, f.e. me, i would like to join some kind of organization to HELP people and the world, but i don't know which one i could trust, there are so many of fronts/covers for BAD business....MJ could create the one, where most people could act...from all over the world.....with responsibilities given.....THAT IS MY DREAM.....

    if someone knows where i can join (i live in Poland, Europe) please let me know (<!-- e --><a href="mailto:iwona.kowalska3@poczta.onet.pl">iwona.kowalska3@poczta.onet.pl</a><!-- e -->) on my email,

    thank U Ralu again for great post!!!

    MJ: I am still there for U,


    Yvonne
  • IDK3MJIDK3MJ Posts: 57
    Friends,

    please vote for Michael,

    <!-- m -->http://www.whopopular.com/Michael-Jackson<!-- m -->

    Thank U, Yvonne
  • raluralu Posts: 97
    @Yvonne, I'm humbled about your appreciation, thank you very much dear! I am really glad when people do understand me.

    Regarding your wish of joyning some organisation, I must say I had the same dilema, until I made my choyce of starting my own action. I have no better idea for the moment, since people will always be suspicious towards organisations, from the very same reasons you've already mentioned. So, I knew that the ones who know me trust in me and I started my own personal donating campain: firs I addressed a letter to all my friends in which I asked them to join me in this try to make a difference. After receving so many enthusiastic responses I started the real thing. I looked for particular cases of ill children published on different sites, organizations' web sites etc, I personally cheked the reality of those cases, then I pleaded for them among my friends who responded to my call. The most important think was my friends doing the same thing, promoting that case forward, trusting that people still have their humanity and when they are sure about the need for which their help is asked, they offer it easily. Now, you could do the same thing if you want, or you could joyn a certain organization. Another think that brought me much light in my soul, even though is a pretty sad environment, was offering myself as voluntair for a cancer-ill children organization. Being there among the children with cancer, playing with them, treating them as normal children, was so good, because you can really feel their happyness that somebody still cares for them and considers them just like the other kids. Seeing those sad and suffering children suddenly becoming smiling and joyful, is so rewarding, I'm telling you.

    All my love.
  • Hi how are You all? i agree with YOu in that the message spreading is good to start now and by all thinhgs recycle buy organic food and vegetables as organic living can sustain the planet as no one can control with GM seeds that only last for the growers one year season for eg, don't suport all the big toxic cosmetic countries etcetc and just by saying Hi to everyone you meet be it in a way of smile hello lending a hand but I am trying to make every interaction taht I have be it animal human wahtever to be it psoitive even on the phone and like some said I don't watch the news or buy trash , the cruel ness is out of this world,and liek MJ said 'willing to sell your soul to get the story told' it's money talks and the more of us that spread the L.O.V.E the message jsut small ways is magic and wil change the world because if everyone did it the world would be a better place. so keep the faith andmuch love and MJ hugs to You all!!
    take care
    L.O.V.E
    Michelle
    oxoxoox
    much peace and light !! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • AdiAdi Posts: 1,834
    I posted this on another thread { <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=1400<!-- l --> }
    but I thought I would copy it in this thread as well.......

    Today’s TIAI redirection

    viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=125#p2255

    to the picture of Michael with 777 on his shirt had me thinking:

    Michael obviously wanted the 777 there for a reason, especially since it wasn’t there during the entirety of This Is It. He wanted us to notice it there.

    I wondered if it is suggesting 7 months, 7 weeks, 7 days from his “death” on 25 June 2009.

    Using inclusive reckoning (as explained by STUDY /TS in previous posts/updates) this takes us to the date of 21st March 2010.

    21st March 2010 is the 45th anniversary of the date when the successful Selma to Montgomery Civil Rights march began in Alabama, USA in 1965. It went for 5 days and 4 nights and ended at the State Capitol Building in Montgomery, Alabama. The march covered 54 miles.

    On the steps of the State Capitol Building is where Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his “How Long, Not Long” speech on 25th March 1965.

    The Martin Luther King Jr. significance here is pretty obvious with relation to the message MJ has been trying to get us to understand all along with they “Don’t Really Care About Us” and being the constant significant theme since his “death”, the first clip which was released from TII after his “death”, the TIAI redirects, the Army of L.O.V.E. (peaceful, non-violent resistance), the dancing inmates to TDRCAU etc……

    “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.”

    The 21st March 2010 is also the day after the Northern Hemisphere Spring Equinox (this year the spring equinox occurs on 20th March – however in some years it does occur on 21st March)…i.e. the start of spring (growth, renewal, new life)

    Also:

    21/3/2010 adds up to 9

    21/3/1965 ALSO adds up to 9

    45th anniversary 4 + 5 = 9

    5 days + 4 nights = 9

    54 miles : 5 + 4 = 9

    LOTS of 9’s there!!!!!

    999 the number which STUDY/TS has talked about all along.

    Just sayin’

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  • @TS

    Ok, first of all I want to say that this is NOT a hate mail. I'm going to criticize TS a little bit. I’ve been reading all of the posts on this board for a long time and I decided to write. I read all of TIAI’s posts too. TIAI was the only reliable source for me until Murray’s case but later on things started to change. Let me explain this for you pls.

    Ok, -TS says that he had “predictions” about the resurrection scene in TII. And I’m asking: ‘Was it so hard to predict this?’ I had already known myself that there was going to be a resurrection scene in the film.

    -TS told us about the important days and how they can be related to Michael. And I’m saying: ‘Someone who knows Michael and his favorite 7s could tell us about the important days such as the funeral or the release date of the film, film’s poster etc.

    -TS told us Michael’s relation with illuminati and NWO. And I’m saying, I had already known about them all and how they had been threatening Michael etc.

    I’m NOT trying to underestimate the work of TS, yes the redirects and all of the writings are very clever BUT all of the “predictions” TS made, could be made by someone who has been following Michael’s life! If TS is really related to Michael and he exactly knows what’s going to happen when, why didn’t he warn us about the coming up trial on their last update?

    TS first told us that Michael was going to come back after the public watched the film and learnt about the hoax. I’m asking all of you. What kind of proof was there in TII for all of the public to understand that Michael is alive? Only us, the believers investigated about Gilda and the meaning of spider and understood about it. Most of Michael’s fans didn’t even understand that those scenes were about resurrection. How could Michael pretend all public to understand the message of those scenes?

    TS told us the first comeback day was the Halloween but it was postponed to January 25th. And it never happened. On TS’ last update, he wrote that the LAST delay is not going to take that long this time. It’s been 1,5 mounths already. And nothing happened. Besides we know that Jermaine is preparing a tribute for Michael in June 8th! I know that many tributes were cancelled but ‘what if’ this one is true? We need to think everything. If it is true, Michael is NOT coming back until summer!

    TS told us the relation of TMZ and the hoax. Yes, it’s very easy to understand it from the news TMZ makes. BUT how do we know that TS is NOT an employee of TMZ? And if TMZ works for Michael, how come they call Michael as ‘Jacko’ and Blanket as ‘electric blanket’? What if some employee’s of TMZ were hired by SONY or AEG to keep the interest and attention high for better sales! We all know how the marketing works.

    After very long 8 mounts, this has been such a very very exhausting journey for us all. And we’re the ones who investigate and try to understand everything about this. We had and still have many people who say that they’re related to Michael and the hoax. And there’re several theories. Some say Michael is in a coma and that explains family’s reaction and Murray is still a free man. Some say he was murdered by SONY-AEG or illuminati. Some say he died in 2005. Some say he’s alive but not coming back and some say he is alive and he will come back. There’s one thing that I’m sure of. WE’RE ALL SO TIRED and we need SPECIFIC things to make us sure that Michael is alive and healthy and about the time he’s coming back! We don’t want no more trials, tributes or delays for a comeback.

    And to people who ask why the comeback is so important, I say there’s NOTHING more important than that for the most of us! BECAUSE we can never ever be sure Michael is alive and healthy until we see him in flesh and bone with our own eyes! I got his message about illuminati, media and all evil things BUT I don’t believe his message can be spread UNTIL HE COMES BACK! Noone believes us and they think that we’re all freaks. ONLY MICHAEL CAN PROVE THE OPPOSITE and after he comes back people will start to listen what we’re saying!

    And I have a couple of questions in my mind. If Michael was going to come back soon, why did he decide to have Murray’s trial? Why Karen has been blaming Kenny and AEG? And why WHY did Randy Jackson joined Karen, and started to blame Kenny? People are sending hate tweets to Kenny. Would Michael want his fans to hate his 20 year long friend? Why does Kenny make a tweet like:”MJ left this world to us” and Gotham Chopra tells us to “Let him go!” ?

    If you’re really someone close to Michael, you should give us the specific DETAILS TS, no more predictions please. We need to be sure that you’re not only a smart believer or a TMZ/SONY employee! And it would be appreciated if you and some others stop telling us to focus on the message and spread it instead of thinking about the come back day. YES, MICHAEL’S COME BACK DAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, not only for us to be sure that he’s alive and fine but also for the sake of spreading the message to the entire world.

    Thank You!
  • @TS

    Ok, first of all I want to say that this is NOT a hate mail. I'm going to criticize TS a little bit. I’ve been reading all of the posts on this board for a long time and I decided to write. I read all of TIAI’s posts too. TIAI was the only reliable source for me until Murray’s case but later on things started to change. Let me explain this for you pls.

    Ok, -TS says that he had “predictions” about the resurrection scene in TII. And I’m asking: ‘Was it so hard to predict this?’ I had already known myself that there was going to be a resurrection scene in the film.

    -TS told us about the important days and how they can be related to Michael. And I’m saying: ‘Someone who knows Michael and his favorite 7s could tell us about the important days such as the funeral or the release date of the film, film’s poster etc.

    -TS told us Michael’s relation with illuminati and NWO. And I’m saying, I had already known about them all and how they had been threatening Michael etc.

    I’m NOT trying to underestimate the work of TS, yes the redirects and all of the writings are very clever BUT all of the “predictions” TS made, could be made by someone who has been following Michael’s life! If TS is really related to Michael and he exactly knows what’s going to happen when, why didn’t he warn us about the coming up trial on their last update?

    TS first told us that Michael was going to come back after the public watched the film and learnt about the hoax. I’m asking all of you. What kind of proof was there in TII for all of the public to understand that Michael is alive? Only us, the believers investigated about Gilda and the meaning of spider and understood about it. Most of Michael’s fans didn’t even understand that those scenes were about resurrection. How could Michael pretend all public to understand the message of those scenes?

    TS told us the first comeback day was the Halloween but it was postponed to January 25th. And it never happened. On TS’ last update, he wrote that the LAST delay is not going to take that long this time. It’s been 1,5 mounths already. And nothing happened. Besides we know that Jermaine is preparing a tribute for Michael in June 8th! I know that many tributes were cancelled but ‘what if’ this one is true? We need to think everything. If it is true, Michael is NOT coming back until summer!

    TS told us the relation of TMZ and the hoax. Yes, it’s very easy to understand it from the news TMZ makes. BUT how do we know that TS is NOT an employee of TMZ? And if TMZ works for Michael, how come they call Michael as ‘Jacko’ and Blanket as ‘electric blanket’? What if some employee’s of TMZ were hired by SONY or AEG to keep the interest and attention high for better sales! We all know how the marketing works.

    After very long 8 mounts, this has been such a very very exhausting journey for us all. And we’re the ones who investigate and try to understand everything about this. We had and still have many people who say that they’re related to Michael and the hoax. And there’re several theories. Some say Michael is in a coma and that explains family’s reaction and Murray is still a free man. Some say he was murdered by SONY-AEG or illuminati. Some say he died in 2005. Some say he’s alive but not coming back and some say he is alive and he will come back. There’s one thing that I’m sure of. WE’RE ALL SO TIRED and we need SPECIFIC things to make us sure that Michael is alive and healthy and about the time he’s coming back! We don’t want no more trials, tributes or delays for a comeback.

    And to people who ask why the comeback is so important, I say there’s NOTHING more important than that for the most of us! BECAUSE we can never ever be sure Michael is alive and healthy until we see him in flesh and bone with our own eyes! I got his message about illuminati, media and all evil things BUT I don’t believe his message can be spread UNTIL HE COMES BACK! Noone believes us and they think that we’re all freaks. ONLY MICHAEL CAN PROVE THE OPPOSITE and after he comes back people will start to listen what we’re saying!

    And I have a couple of questions in my mind. If Michael was going to come back soon, why did he decide to have Murray’s trial? Why Karen has been blaming Kenny and AEG? And why WHY did Randy Jackson joined Karen, and started to blame Kenny? People are sending hate tweets to Kenny. Would Michael want his fans to hate his 20 year long friend? Why does Kenny make a tweet like:”MJ left this world to us” and Gotham Chopra tells us to “Let him go!” ?

    If you’re really someone close to Michael, you should give us the specific DETAILS TS, no more predictions please. We need to be sure that you’re not only a smart believer or a TMZ/SONY employee! And it would be appreciated if you and some others stop telling us to focus on the message and spread it instead of thinking about the come back day. YES, MICHAEL’S COME BACK DAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, not only for us to be sure that he’s alive and fine but also for the sake of spreading the message to the entire world.

    Thank You!


    I appreciate your passionate writing! I have put a deadline for myself ; july 2010.
    I put trust in TS, TS is an offer to me. There are fans who have not followed MJs life in detail, so for them it is like a summary, sure we would have come to similar results without TS.But like this it is a little help, and an inspiration to believe.
    After 8 Months I landed on a particular track in this whole case. I see reasons to believe.
    I see what this has done to my own person and to my life. It is an enriching experience, a great adventure, nothing to be nervous about!. I focuss on issues that I did not see so clear before June 25. This confrontation with MJ and the themes surrounding his life and his person have lead me to wanting to reformulate the spell in my own life.
    I also have had my doubts about the many details in clues and how someone who is not so deeply involved in this case could discover them. BUT, there are things that obviously are strange at first sight. Like only one picture of MJ, and that only one is now called fake by Brian Oxman. Like no obvious grave that can be visited by fans. In TII, after the credits, is at least one very obvious sign that make you think. I`ll be back in my own time... And so on, in general, things surrounding 25th June are mysterious and that is something that is being captured by many people.
    The reason for the CM trial is complex and exhausting. As long as I am believing, I stick to my trust in a good reason for this and for MJ. It will reveal during the coming up months.We already put a lot of fantasy and logical thinking in the why`s of it, we have reasons to believe. Only the final evidence is missing. If it comes out that people from AEG, Sony, TMZ (Phillips, Branca, Dileo, Ortega and IDK how many others come into question), have maliciously fooled us, I still will look back on an enriching experience and will even have more reason to fight for truth and justice for MJ and in the world.
    My gut ( on an argumentive base)tells me it is not going to take ages anymore and these last months maybe the hardest, but after 8 months we will do these last miles, I am very sure, no matter the outcome, we are not alone,we are here together. Hug you all!! <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->


  • I appreciate your passionate writing! I have put a deadline for myself ; july 2010.
    I put trust in TS, TS is an offer to me. There are fans who have not followed MJs life in detail, so for them it is like a summary, sure we would have come to similar results without TS.But like this it is a little help, and an inspiration to believe.
    After 8 Months I landed on a particular track in this whole case. I see reasons to believe.
    I see what this has done to my own person and to my life. It is an enriching experience, a great adventure, nothing to be nervous about!. I focuss on issues that I did not see so clear before June 25. This confrontation with MJ and the themes surrounding his life and his person have lead me to wanting to reformulate the spell in my own life.
    I also have had my doubts about the many details in clues and how someone who is not so deeply involved in this case could discover them. BUT, there are things that obviously are strange at first sight. Like only one picture of MJ, and that only one is now called fake by Brian Oxman. Like no obvious grave that can be visited by fans. In TII, after the credits, is at least one very obvious sign that make you think. I`ll be back in my own time... And so on, in general, things surrounding 25th June are mysterious and that is something that is being captured by many people.
    The reason for the CM trial is complex and exhausting. As long as I am believing, I stick to my trust in a good reason for this and for MJ. It will reveal during the coming up months.We already put a lot of fantasy and logical thinking in the why`s of it, we have reasons to believe. Only the final evidence is missing. If it comes out that people from AEG, Sony, TMZ (Phillips, Branca, Dileo, Ortega and IDK how many others come into question), have maliciously fooled us, I still will look back on an enriching experience and will even have more reason to fight for truth and justice for MJ and in the world.
    My gut ( on an argumentive base)tells me it is not going to take ages anymore and these last months maybe the hardest, but after 8 months we will do these last miles, I am very sure, no matter the outcome, we are not alone,we are here together. Hug you all!! <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->

    Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with me. I appreciate it. There're very obvious things that I realized which proves this is a hoax BUT when I think about them; for example about after the credits part was that Michael who was saying "I'll come back in my own time"? There were doubles in TII and that part was shot from a distance. It wasn't a close up shot. One of the dancers says that Michael was with them for ONLY A DAY! That's what scares me. What if they used doubles to give us those "special clues" in TII to sell the movie? Anything can happen when it comes to earning money, you know. I'm so scared if this is a big conspiracy that the USA Government is in it too. I hope Michael is alive and fine really. But after all these long 8 mounths I must confess that I started to lose my hope.
  • Anxiety is a state that some people want to get you in for their purpose.The people who would like to be mighty over you so that you stay there where you are,stunned.And stop thinking.
    Don`t let it happen to you,open up and live love,live Mikes message.Have courage to do good,don`t be scary. If we are being fooled, now see through!Even If Michael really died, his message is there. Take it as a gift, a chance and continue the legacy.
    We are all connected, we are all one and we will stay together!
  • There were doubles in TII and that part was shot from a distance. It wasn't a close up shot. One of the dancers says that Michael was with them for ONLY A DAY! That's what scares me. What if they used doubles to give us those "special clues" in TII to sell the movie? Anything can happen when it comes to earning money, you know.

    It doesn't sound logical to use doubles in This just to generate more $$$. Just a small percentage of the world population are believers. The majority of believers are fans anyway, so they would, next to the thousands and thousands of fans who have no idea about the hoax, go see the movie and buy the DVD anyway.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    RestlessSoul, this is my opinion. Michael spoke of a conspiracy, some family members have talked of a conspiracy.

    Perhaps the scenes of the movie were not understood or people just ignored them, as they paid no attention to the fact that the end does not appear Rip 1958-2009.

    I do not think Sony have contract-AEG TMZ, Because then you do not think it's a single employee, it also recalls that most fans think that Michael died.

    RestlessSoul, this is my opinion. Michael spoke of a conspiracy, some family members have talked of a conspiracy.

    Perhaps the scenes of the movie were not understood or people just ignored them, as they paid no attention to the fact that the end does not appear Rip 1958-2009.

    I do not think Sony have contract-AEG TMZ, Because then you do not think it's a single employee, it also recalls that most fans think that Michael died.

    When you say this has been a tough journey, you are right, I think we all felt exhausted at some point.

    I do not think Michael is in a coma, I think it is a crime if a person dies Because of an irresponsible doctor, just as it is a crime a person from being in a coma Because of that physician. I do not think SONY-AEG have held around the Memorial and burial, why an unmarked grave?, Why no photos definitely different from that tomb?.

    Yes, I agree we need specific things to make sure that Michael is alive.

    On the subject of the Illuminati, many people do not pay attention to these things.

    ... and Karen, I definitely do not understand it, by telling her make-up the corpse ", as I dare say, the family knew that there would be no open casket.

    As for the trial of Murray, Michael said he had wanted to kill people who, perhaps as one person in another thread, this trial is only so that all attention is focused on Murray, and insights to or people wanting to kill Michael. <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
  • cawobethcawobeth Posts: 135
    "Patiance, patiance my friends..."
    yes,yes Ralu !!!
    and "things are not always what they seam to be", nor do they always go as planned.

    I can't get w/all this # stuff...too many tangents for me.

    Of course C "Murray" had an agreement with MJ.
    Preliminary hearing scheduled for 4-5-10.

    My gut feeling has been (since TIAI re-direct of 2010 calender) a peak return begin of April.
    A few months w/his children; a simmer (hoping & praying it will play out as a simmer)
    then "bam" maybe July.

    God's speed, Michael...

    remember the scene in TII when he was adjusting his earphone ?
    I beLIEve that this was meant too be quite significant...
  • This is a long, but very touching story which I whish to offer you as a birthday present, Prince-Michael. It is not mine and, unfortunately I don’t know who wrote it in the first place, so I can’t give any credit for it. I’ve just received it the same way that I am sending it to you now. Please excuse the modest translation from Romanian. I know it is not the best wording, but I also know you will understand the message.....

    .....
    Dear Prince, be strong and proud and pure, keep the faith and whatever happens follow your own way, listen to your call. I know some people could have high expectation from you, due to the overwhelming standards of your father, but please do not let yourself discouraged by this comparison. Each of us is unique in his own way and God let every one of us with a special purpose on this Earth … when you will figure out which one is yours, you will know it and you will follow it and you will shine just as beautiful as your daddy, or maybe even better. God bless you and your wonderful family! Happy Birthday!

    Bravo! That was absolutely beautiful.
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