This may be out there - but since we are looking at a family member acting as a decoy - my first thought would be Taryll.
I remember alwaysbelieveMj's video about Taryll being Michael at the Grammys.
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At that time I left a comment for her video that it is possible.
This ties in with the clue. I always wondered why the pic of DCM's uncle was released and what the connection was - but the LKL clue giver brought? our attention to how a nephew could look like the uncle. Why couldn't that be reversed too
But what if the clue giver was right and the nephew was actually made to look like the uncle. Do you think Taryll played Micheal during TII. Remember Michael had also wanted 3T to help him in his future projects which is all about movies - It was featured in the dynasty series. I also wondered why Taryll left abruptly in that episode when they mentioned his uncle's passing.
This is scary cos I wonder who is stringing us along. Say it was Taryll and MJ really died. Then wouldn't it be so inhuman if they made us believe Michael was alive just to get the bucks in.
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In Taryll's favor - He is 5' 11" and has the side smile that shows more teeth on the left hand side
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Also did you know this about his will
However, a separate clause insists that if any of Michael's beneficiaries had passed away, then his assets would be divided between six additional relatives. These six people include his brother Tito's three sons. Looks like Michael liked to play favourites with his family, eh?!!
As I said on the other thread. I am also wondering about the shoes.
I always thought that Michael wore the same black loafers all the time. But recently, after seeing the Tim Hill book, I have found all the pics of him in concert with a white piece on the top - so that makes it black and white shoes.
These shoes are in the TMZ picture with the RIP or alive poll? Did the different MJs use different shoes? Zaldy said he had only one kind of shoe and even in the exhibition there are plain black shoes. So where did the new ones come from?
During the later years, he also seemed to wear heeled boots a lot.
As I said on the other thread. I am also wondering about the shoes.
I always thought that Michael wore the same black loafers all the time. But recently, after seeing the Tim Hill book, I have found all the pics of him in concert with a white piece on the top - so that makes it black and white shoes.
These shoes are in the TMZ picture with the RIP or alive poll? Did the different MJs use different shoes? Zaldy said he had only one kind of shoe and even in the exhibition there are plain black shoes. So where did the new ones come from?
During the later years, he also seemed to wear heeled boots a lot.
Yeah he wears the white piece shoes even in the Zaldy concert that I talked about.
So why did Zaldy say Michael had only one type of shoe (even if the was for concerts) and he had so many pairs of them.
Taryll looked very good, I guess I was to distracted to even think of the possibility, but after seeing this it might as well be. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I am very reluctant to believe any twitter account.
There is this one and his last tweet on June 24.
I found this a little odd.
MJJackson1958
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HI to my lovely 3 nephews 3T !!! 7:21 PM Jun 24th, 2009 via web
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I don't have time! very busy!!! 7:18 PM Jun 24th, 2009 via web
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The dates are fast approaching 3:17 PM Jun 19th, 2009 via web
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Doing the MoonWalk 2:06 AM Jun 13th, 2009 via web
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These will be my final shows performances in London. be performing the songs my fans want to hear! 7:51 PM Jun 10th, 2009 via web
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wants to find six marching snare drummers to take part in the shows , don't want any to have beards or stubble 7:45 PM Jun 10th, 2009 via web
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wants to assemble a children's choir for the shows, made up of "exactly equal" numbers of black, white, Asian and mixed-raced kids. 7:43 PM Jun 10th, 2009 via web
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I love you dearly elizabeth , you're a true friend! you have been my constant with your support, your caring and love! love you always 8:16 PM Jun 9th, 2009 via web
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To all of my fans , be prepared for a big suprise that i'm working on! don't forget i love you all! 7:03 PM Jun 9th, 2009 via web
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set to turn the Kent house in london to a replica of Neverland Ranch. 11:23 AM Jun 9th, 2009 via web
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Working at the studio! I would like to say to all my fans that i love you all, thank you so much for your support and love! 7:31 PM Jun 8th, 2009 via web
Wow , I never clicked on any double thread cos I was sure it was always MJ , but the pics badkolo posted are very different , ok i was wrong , I think there are doubles .. I'm convinced now..lmao
I posted this in the other thread on the doppleganger but I am going to post it here as well because I feel it is an important concept and another twist on the idea of "Double".
I realize that a lot of time and effort has been put in to the idea of doubles or a doppleganger but I honestly and firmly believe that it is all Michael. I did an experiment and took pictures of myself and in each picture I look very different. These pictures where taken indoors, outdoors, in the sun, in the shade etc. I did nothing unusual at all. Depending on the light, how I held myself, the angle at which the camera was held etc. I do look different. In some pictures I almost look like a different person yet these pictures where only taken seconds and minutes apart. I had a friend look at them, without telling them why, and their comment was "WOW! You sure look different in each pic ...lol". So yes, it is possible for Michael to appear "different" in each and every picture ever taken of him.
As far as doubles go, I don't think Michael used them beyond stunt work, illusions/distractions and decoys.
I do think there is something going on with the concept of DUALITY and it has become confused with the idea of doubles having a greater role than intended.
I am currently researching this:
Dualism is the doctrine that the world (or reality) consists of two basic, opposed, and irreducible principles that account for all that exists. It has played an important role in the history of thought and of religion. http://www.cyberspacei.com/jesusi/inlight/religion/belief/dualism.htm
Dualism Dualism denotes a state of two parts. The word's origin is the Latin duo, "two" . The term 'dualism' was originally coined to denote co-eternal binary opposition, a meaning that is preserved in metaphysical and philosophical duality discourse but has been diluted in general or common usages. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism
Anyways, that is my position on this and I will continue researching this philosophy but I thought I would share as it seems relevant to me with all the "Two's" of everything and maybe we are looking in the wrong place concerning this.
Wow , Ive never clicked on any double thread cos I was sure it was always MJ , but the pics badkolo posted are very different , ok i was wrong , I think there are doubles .. I'm convinced now..lmao
Welcome to the confusion. <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
I did run all those pictures through the face recognition software from google, and it always matches as the same person. They do not match ecas or any other doubles pics. I wish I could understand how they come to that conclusion. Even O2 guy gets matched.
I did run all those pictures through the face recognition software from google, and it always matches as the same person. They do not match ecas or any other doubles pics. I wish I could understand how they come to that conclusion. Even O2 guy gets matched.
because it's MJ... it doesn't matter though because everyone will have an excuse why that software didn't work...
I did run all those pictures through the face recognition software from google, and it always matches as the same person. They do not match ecas or any other doubles pics. I wish I could understand how they come to that conclusion. Even O2 guy gets matched.
Since we are all supposed to back our claims regarding a person with some or the other evidence, so I'll believe in the O2 "double" only when I hear it from his mouth.....not because of mere speculations.....
And the point here is not taht people are unready to accept that MJ used doubles...all celebrities do..all of 'em.....I say this because I had this classmate once....And recently on a flight back home, I saw an Airhostess who looked a lot like her (95%) .....For a moment I thought that it was really her...But I soon realised that she was a lookalike, because her name was different.....
If you happen to be an eye candy or Icon of some sort...the kind whom people love to feast their eyes upon, you have to have doubles....for the sake of your own sanity..... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
And we all know that. Nobody's denying the existence of doubles....we're not delusional and mad......
Its just that ONE particular SCENE ( ie the O2) is causing all the trouble and confusion.
And as far as the eyes go, theres ths operation by which you can remove the fatty layer from beneath your eyes....That same fatty layer taht causes EYEBAGS when you are old....MJ had them done..Its evident from the pics and how his eyes shaped over the years...They didnt change drastically....He jsut had the fatty layer reoved and so they looked a little bigger during the dangerous era and onwards. I have seen a lady with such a procedure...So I just wanted to share my experience.
The point is wether there was a double there or not at the O2....we're not saying taht doubles never existed........ <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
well, there is also the fact that ears grow during your whole life. what was done there was a comparison between mike as a kid and mike as a young adult with recent pics. plus he allegedly had some cartilage from the ears removed to reconstruct his nose. that could be two different reasons for different ears...just sayin'...
Like I said...I'll accept it whole heartedly that O2 was MJ double when HE says it from his own mouth.....Not meaning to complain..I like that the Admins have often stressed on a "tape" or a "video" or any other "hardcore" evidence instead of hearsay....Thats a good trend and it should apply to all issues including this one. Lets be fair.
And I'll say it again: The issue is not wether doubles existed....the issue is wether there was a double at the O2 .....ONLY THAT is the issue.
well, there is also the fact that ears grow during your whole life. what was done there was a comparison between mike as a kid and mike as a young adult with recent pics. plus he allegedly had some cartilage from the ears removed to reconstruct his nose. that could be two different reasons for different ears...just sayin'...
The ears of the two MJ are the same all the time, without missing the cartilage. The paintings are each made nearly the same time. And that is also at TII.
Hello every1. I have litteraly just found out about this website, and i found it from a link about barry shaw. i am somewhat new the mj hoax theories, and not sure if i believe it or not... but i am also new to barry shaw... and i have some interesting things to tell you all that may shock some of u.
anyways, first i want to say this..... you are all making a big huge deal about how stupid and crazy it is that barry shaw could be michaels personal body double. you ridicule this man for that. do you not all see that YOU ARE SPENDING LOTS OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE BIGGEST TRICK EVER PLAYED IN HISTORY? (Mj hoax) if you think barry shaw is stupid and funny and all that, then shouldnt u be the ones sayin that this hoax is not really a hoax? i mean do u get my point?
but anyways, like i said i wasnt reaaly into the hoax, or into barry , BUTTT , i was one of the people that barry picked to do the live webcam showing with. in fact i was the one who took the photo in which you are displaying here of him..
sure you can laugh about my photo.. but it was real. and as posted in the photo, he went on with glasses, and without glasses. he look just like michael jackson.
i quick snapped a snap shot with my phone cam as he said he was about to get off. so luckily i got a picture...
i mean this was concrete proof. I SAW HIM ON CAM. and more than that i took a picture (depite him telling us not to) and showed it to all of you.. yet you still ridicule him.. why?
im telling u.. i dont think mj is alive, and i thought barry was a joke.. but he proved me wrong...
maybe mj is dead, maybe alive.. i tell u this tho.. him going on cam scared the sh*t out of me, because i thought / think i talked to michael..
so there is now two questions.. 1. Do I believe Barry Shaw that he was Michael's body double? or 2. Is barry shaw in fact michael jackson, and I spoke to michael jackson? ... to me #1 seems much more realistic.
Thats just my opinions.
im sure i will be ridiculed by many of you here, as ive learned many of mj fans are really rude and love to spread hatred to people who disagree with them... but i tell you this much... who is more weird, a guy who looks like someone else, and proved it, or a guy who believes Michael Jackson fooled every news caster, every cop, every pathologist, in the world? think about that..
by the way, i am the one who posted that pic on facebook... u can find me on there if u wish to confirm that this is me... name is John Harrison.
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I remember alwaysbelieveMj's video about Taryll being Michael at the Grammys.
[youtube:1z2o6e3p]
At that time I left a comment for her video that it is possible.
I was referring to the comment on the LKL blog about this article from <!-- m -->http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... -doctor.do<!-- m --> The picture here is obviously a photo-shopped Murray.
But what if the clue giver was right and the nephew was actually made to look like the uncle. Do you think Taryll played Micheal during TII. Remember Michael had also wanted 3T to help him in his future projects which is all about movies - It was featured in the dynasty series. I also wondered why Taryll left abruptly in that episode when they mentioned his uncle's passing.
This is scary cos I wonder who is stringing us along. Say it was Taryll and MJ really died. Then wouldn't it be so inhuman if they made us believe Michael was alive just to get the bucks in.
Edit
In Taryll's favor - He is 5' 11" and has the side smile that shows more teeth on the left hand side
Edit
Also did you know this about his will <!-- m -->http://www.johnnyikon.com/articles/5174 ... amily.html<!-- m -->
During the later years, he also seemed to wear heeled boots a lot.
Yeah he wears the white piece shoes even in the Zaldy concert that I talked about.
So why did Zaldy say Michael had only one type of shoe (even if the was for concerts) and he had so many pairs of them.
Taryll looked very good, I guess I was to distracted to even think of the possibility, but after seeing this it might as well be. <!-- s
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."There is this one and his last tweet on June 24.
I found this a little odd.
MJJackson1958
1.
HI to my lovely 3 nephews 3T !!! 7:21 PM Jun 24th, 2009 via web
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2.
I don't have time! very busy!!! 7:18 PM Jun 24th, 2009 via web
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3.
The dates are fast approaching 3:17 PM Jun 19th, 2009 via web
* Reply
* Retweet
4.
Doing the MoonWalk 2:06 AM Jun 13th, 2009 via web
* Reply
* Retweet
5.
These will be my final shows performances in London. be performing the songs my fans want to hear! 7:51 PM Jun 10th, 2009 via web
* Reply
* Retweet
6.
wants to find six marching snare drummers to take part in the shows , don't want any to have beards or stubble 7:45 PM Jun 10th, 2009 via web
* Reply
* Retweet
7.
wants to assemble a children's choir for the shows, made up of "exactly equal" numbers of black, white, Asian and mixed-raced kids. 7:43 PM Jun 10th, 2009 via web
* Reply
* Retweet
8.
I love you dearly elizabeth , you're a true friend! you have been my constant with your support, your caring and love! love you always 8:16 PM Jun 9th, 2009 via web
* Reply
* Retweet
9.
To all of my fans , be prepared for a big suprise that i'm working on! don't forget i love you all! 7:03 PM Jun 9th, 2009 via web
* Reply
* Retweet
10.
set to turn the Kent house in london to a replica of Neverland Ranch. 11:23 AM Jun 9th, 2009 via web
* Reply
* Retweet
11.
Working at the studio! I would like to say to all my fans that i love you all, thank you so much for your support and love! 7:31 PM Jun 8th, 2009 via web
I realize that a lot of time and effort has been put in to the idea of doubles or a doppleganger but I honestly and firmly believe that it is all Michael. I did an experiment and took pictures of myself and in each picture I look very different. These pictures where taken indoors, outdoors, in the sun, in the shade etc. I did nothing unusual at all. Depending on the light, how I held myself, the angle at which the camera was held etc. I do look different. In some pictures I almost look like a different person yet these pictures where only taken seconds and minutes apart. I had a friend look at them, without telling them why, and their comment was "WOW! You sure look different in each pic ...lol". So yes, it is possible for Michael to appear "different" in each and every picture ever taken of him.
As far as doubles go, I don't think Michael used them beyond stunt work, illusions/distractions and decoys.
I do think there is something going on with the concept of DUALITY and it has become confused with the idea of doubles having a greater role than intended.
I am currently researching this:
Dualism is the doctrine that the world (or reality) consists of two basic, opposed, and irreducible principles that account for all that exists. It has played an important role in the history of thought and of religion.
http://www.cyberspacei.com/jesusi/inlight/religion/belief/dualism.htm
Dualism
Dualism denotes a state of two parts. The word's origin is the Latin duo, "two" . The term 'dualism' was originally coined to denote co-eternal binary opposition, a meaning that is preserved in metaphysical and philosophical duality discourse but has been diluted in general or common usages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism
Anyways, that is my position on this and I will continue researching this philosophy but I thought I would share as it seems relevant to me with all the "Two's" of everything and maybe we are looking in the wrong place concerning this.
Welcome to the confusion. <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->
Do you have a link to that software?
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and who is who? left Michael or right Michael?
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And the point here is not taht people are unready to accept that MJ used doubles...all celebrities do..all of 'em.....I say this because I had this classmate once....And recently on a flight back home, I saw an Airhostess who looked a lot like her (95%) .....For a moment I thought that it was really her...But I soon realised that she was a lookalike, because her name was different.....
If you happen to be an eye candy or Icon of some sort...the kind whom people love to feast their eyes upon, you have to have doubles....for the sake of your own sanity..... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
And we all know that. Nobody's denying the existence of doubles....we're not delusional and mad......
Its just that ONE particular SCENE ( ie the O2) is causing all the trouble and confusion.
And as far as the eyes go, theres ths operation by which you can remove the fatty layer from beneath your eyes....That same fatty layer taht causes EYEBAGS when you are old....MJ had them done..Its evident from the pics and how his eyes shaped over the years...They didnt change drastically....He jsut had the fatty layer reoved and so they looked a little bigger during the dangerous era and onwards. I have seen a lady with such a procedure...So I just wanted to share my experience.
The point is wether there was a double there or not at the O2....we're not saying taht doubles never existed........ <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
One picture is the right ear, and one pichture are the left ear, but two Michaels.
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well, there is also the fact that ears grow during your whole life. what was done there was a comparison between mike as a kid and mike as a young adult with recent pics. plus he allegedly had some cartilage from the ears removed to reconstruct his nose. that could be two different reasons for different ears...just sayin'...
<!-- s
And I'll say it again: The issue is not wether doubles existed....the issue is wether there was a double at the O2 .....ONLY THAT is the issue.
The ears of the two MJ are the same all the time, without missing the cartilage. The paintings are each made nearly the same time. And that is also at TII.
The picture are from child, teeny and as a man.
anyways, first i want to say this..... you are all making a big huge deal about how stupid and crazy it is that barry shaw could be michaels personal body double. you ridicule this man for that. do you not all see that YOU ARE SPENDING LOTS OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE BIGGEST TRICK EVER PLAYED IN HISTORY? (Mj hoax) if you think barry shaw is stupid and funny and all that, then shouldnt u be the ones sayin that this hoax is not really a hoax? i mean do u get my point?
but anyways, like i said i wasnt reaaly into the hoax, or into barry , BUTTT , i was one of the people that barry picked to do the live webcam showing with. in fact i was the one who took the photo in which you are displaying here of him..
sure you can laugh about my photo.. but it was real. and as posted in the photo, he went on with glasses, and without glasses. he look just like michael jackson.
i quick snapped a snap shot with my phone cam as he said he was about to get off. so luckily i got a picture...
i mean this was concrete proof. I SAW HIM ON CAM. and more than that i took a picture (depite him telling us not to) and showed it to all of you.. yet you still ridicule him.. why?
im telling u.. i dont think mj is alive, and i thought barry was a joke.. but he proved me wrong...
maybe mj is dead, maybe alive.. i tell u this tho.. him going on cam scared the sh*t out of me, because i thought / think i talked to michael..
so there is now two questions.. 1. Do I believe Barry Shaw that he was Michael's body double? or 2. Is barry shaw in fact michael jackson, and I spoke to michael jackson? ... to me #1 seems much more realistic.
Thats just my opinions.
im sure i will be ridiculed by many of you here, as ive learned many of mj fans are really rude and love to spread hatred to people who disagree with them... but i tell you this much... who is more weird, a guy who looks like someone else, and proved it, or a guy who believes Michael Jackson fooled every news caster, every cop, every pathologist, in the world? think about that..
by the way, i am the one who posted that pic on facebook... u can find me on there if u wish to confirm that this is me... name is John Harrison.