Michael Jackson Doc in Mid-Air Emergency

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  • DancingTheDreamDancingTheDream Posts: 4,923
    @ Dancing, interesting to know if you get sick on a plane. You have to have a needle to insert an IV drip into a vein. They carry sterile bags of saline solution on board?


    I dont know.. i will have to look into it.

    I know they carry extensive first aid kits. Once when i was on a plane, a chap had a heart attack in one of the toilets whilst we were in the air and i saw them using a defibrilator on him with oxygen masks, etc..

    They have to carry that sort of stuff, for sure as when you are in a plane and fall ill.. then you need the stuff on board to administer first aid.. its a long way back to the ground to get help!!
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    Thanks for the info, Dancing! Good to know.
  • DatrootDatroot Posts: 1,314
    If Murray was the only Doc on board, I think I'd rather take my chances.
  • DancingTheDreamDancingTheDream Posts: 4,923
    Mo, I agree! Maybe TMZ photographers travel with him now everywhere he goes. How convenient!

    How do you know it wasnt a member of the public who recognised Murray and took a snap.. and then sold the picture to TMZ??
  • GlindaGlinda Posts: 658
    i dont know about stewards with needles.. i dont think they have needles in their first aid box..
    You are not even allowed to have a little scissor in your hand-lugage.
    But hey Murray is a doc, maybe there are other rules for doctors.
    Btw never heard about saline solution drips in first aid kits.
    They do have AED on board. (Automated External Defibrillator)
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    TMZ, by chance will not have the photo of Murray doing CPR? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • DancingTheDreamDancingTheDream Posts: 4,923
    Found info.. the DO carry first aid kits with needles.

    There are two kits. One that the attendants can use and one that only medical professionals can use.

    That must be why they put a call out for a doctor:

    Each first-aid kit must be accessible to the flight attendants and include:

    * bandages
    * compresses for applying pressure, moisture, heat, or cold
    * antiseptic swabs
    * arm and leg splints
    * tape
    * scissors.

    An airplane's medical kit must be accessible to the flight crew, but is for use only by medical professionals. It must include:

    * blood pressure cuff
    * stethoscope
    * plastic airways to deliver oxygen to help with breathing
    * nitroglycerin tablets for chest pain
    * dextrose solution for hypoglycemia
    * epinephrine for asthma or allergic reactions
    * injectable diphenhydramine HCl for serious allergic reactions
    * hypodermic needles
    * protective latex gloves.


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  • DatrootDatroot Posts: 1,314
    No travel sized Propofol?
  • tabloidburntabloidburn Posts: 1,621
    i think it is possible for airplane emergency equipment to contain iv and saline solution. especially on long flights, people might suffer from dehydration, so that woud be the quickest way to help that (that might have even been the whole problem...you dehydrate, you faint -> weak pulse). it's just funny that they always call for a doctor and don't have plane staff to be able to do that. what if there is no doctor on the flight? they shrug and don't do anything and let someone die cuz nobody could insert an iv? i seriously doubt that. so that 'calling for a doctor' might even be staged in the first place, especially given the fact that murray is not an unknown person and they could have just walked up to him and ask for help instead of waking the whole plane up. they cannot tell me nobody recognized him, i'm not gonna buy that. this guy is 6"6' tall, and his face has been all over the news for a solid year. it's not like one can say 'i didn't see him'. so i guess, a drama had to be created somehow...

    but the whole image is really funny, supposedly noone recognizing murray and when his call comes, he jumps off to SAVE A LIFE BY INSERTING AN IV...quite the opposite of what he's accused of, but: same action - opposite effect! naturally, this is for one purpose only, to reinstate murray's qualities as a doctor (yes, he CAN save a life, too) and to prove that he's fo' real and not an actor. this is one more mark on his 'good doctor' scale, which is gonna have to weigh in heavier than the bad part for him to get off scott free. and it happened close to the trial, possibly when he was on his way to l.a. for that reason. a recent good deed, in fact, a heroic one...how convenient... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

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  • tabloidburntabloidburn Posts: 1,621
    No travel sized Propofol?

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  • DatrootDatroot Posts: 1,314
    i think it is possible for airplane emergency equipment to contain iv ans saline solution. especially on long flights, people might suffer from dehydration, so that woud be the quickest way to help that (that might have even been the whole problem...you dehydrate, you faint -> weak pulse). it's just funny that they always call for a doctor and don't have plane staff to be able to do that. what if there is no doctor on the flight? they shrug and don't do anything and let someone die cuz nobody could insert an iv? i seriously doubt that. so that 'calling for a doctor' might even be staged in the first place, especially given the fact that murray is not an unknown person and they could have just walked up to him and ask for help instead of waking the whole plane up. they cannot tell me nobody recognized him, i'm not gonna buy that. this guy is 6"6' tall, and his face has been all over the news for a solid year. it's not like one can say 'i didn't see him'. so i guess, a drama had to be created somehow...

    but the whole image is really funny, supposedly noone recognizing murray and when his call comes, he jumps off to SAVE A LIFE BY INSERTING AN IV...quite the opposite of what he's accused of, but: same action - opposite effect! naturally, this is for one purpose only, to reinstate murray's qualities as a doctor (yes, he CAN save a life, too) and to prove that he's fo' real and not an actor. this is one more mark on his 'good doctor' scale, which is gonna have to weigh in heavier than the bad part for him to get off scott free. and it happened close to the trial, possibly when he was on his way to l.a. for that reason. a recent good deed, in fact, a heroic one...how convenient... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

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    That poor woman will be wheeled into court to testify.
  • Maybe what TMZ is saying is this:

    Murray was with Michael when he noticed that Michael was faint. One of Michael's children was there. He (Dr Murray) jumped up out of his chair, reacting very quickly. He checked him (Michael) and found him to have a weak pulse. He inserted an IV as he (Michael) had been complaining of being dehydrated the day before. Medical help arrived and transported him to a hospital. His (Michael) condition is unknown at this time?

    I also find odd that someone could take a picture of him IN the plane and then so quickly get it to TMZ? If I were a passenger, the last thing I would think about is getting that photo to the press. Hmm...will have to think about this some more. I don't know if the story is to be taken literally.
  • tabloidburntabloidburn Posts: 1,621
    excerpt from the linked tmz-article on p.1:

    TMZ spoke with the woman, who tells us she got lightheaded on the flight and "fainted for like 30 minutes." She says she came to with an IV in her arm and Murray standing over her. She says he told her, "You probably know me ... I was Michael Jackson's doctor."

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    ...and then she went: "WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!" and fainted again...

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  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    but the whole image is really funny, supposedly noone recognizing murray and when his call comes, he jumps off to SAVE A LIFE BY INSERTING AN IV...quite the opposite of what he's accused of, but: same action - opposite effect! naturally, this is for one purpose only, to reinstate murray's qualities as a doctor (yes, he CAN save a life, too) and to prove that he's fo' real and not an actor. this is one more mark on his 'good doctor' scale, which is gonna have to weigh in heavier than the bad part for him to get off scott free. and it happened close to the trial, possibly when he was on his way to l.a. for that reason. a recent good deed, in fact, a heroic one...how convenient... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

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    yes, how convenient...
    i think that we were talking about murray not being charged... this is good for the hoax... <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
    he need to be not guilty, because he really don´t do anything if MJ is alive...
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  • tabloidburntabloidburn Posts: 1,621

    That poor woman will be wheeled into court to testify.


    most certainly, she will. probably with a bonus to make it impossible for her not to... <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->

    "REASONABLE DOUBT" !!!
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Datroot wrote:

    No travel sized Propofol?
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  • DancingTheDreamDancingTheDream Posts: 4,923
    excerpt from the linked tmz-article on p.1:

    TMZ spoke with the woman, who tells us she got lightheaded on the flight and "fainted for like 30 minutes." She says she came to with an IV in her arm and Murray standing over her. She says he told her, "You probably know me ... I was Michael Jackson's doctor."

    Read more: <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0o1ZsT0Mf<!-- m -->

    ...and then she went: "WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!" and fainted again...

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    What the hell? That hilarious.
  • AvaMarieAvaMarie Posts: 714
    She had a ''very weak pulse'' where have we heard that before. Somebody is putting in some overtime to tried and make Murray look like a hero. Lucking for her the wonderful Doc was aboard.
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    voiceforthesilent, However, the interpretation may be that, that's what a lot of good minds analyzing Forum .. my brain is already fuming after almost a year in this, and many people here are seeing Michael's face in the coffee mousse Murray <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • Maybe what TMZ is saying is this:

    Murray was with Michael when he noticed that Michael was faint. One of Michael's children was there. He (Dr Murray) jumped up out of his chair, reacting very quickly. He checked him (Michael) and found him to have a weak pulse. He inserted an IV as he (Michael) had been complaining of being dehydrated the day before. Medical help arrived and transported him to a hospital. His (Michael) condition is unknown at this time?

    I also find odd that someone could take a picture of him IN the plane and then so quickly get it to TMZ? If I were a passenger, the last thing I would think about is getting that photo to the press. Hmm...will have to think about this some more. I don't know if the story is to be taken literally.


    The other thing bothering me about this story...Dr Murray is going from Houston to Phoenix on US Airlines? It might have been quicker to go straight into Phoenix. It's only a 2 hour flight tops and if you have a connecting flight you go through Colorado, not New Mexico. Flying through Colorado would put you in Denver in about 1 1/2 hours. That's just my observation but since I don't fly much that direction I may be missing something.
  • voiceforthesilent, However, the interpretation may be that, that's what a lot of good minds analyzing Forum .. my brain is already fuming after almost a year in this, and many people here are seeing Michael's face in the coffee mousse Murray <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->


    Yep - I've officially lost my mind <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • loyalfanloyalfan Posts: 1,641
    i was just trying to imagine what i would say if it had have been me who fainted,and came round, to see an i.v.in me ... and murrays face <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> staring at me................sorry i am still laughing hysterically about it.............. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Fainting = unconsciousness = apparent death.

    A woman with a baby = symbol of ongoing life & regeneration of life.
  • AnnieIsNotOKAnnieIsNotOK Posts: 979
    well well... he was a bad man, now he is a hero to save a woman life...great point for a courtroom...

    No CPR this time?

    It couldn't!!!There was no bed aboard..... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • loyalfanloyalfan Posts: 1,641
    hands up all those who think this has all been staged.......... <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
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