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  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    @SoL: Off the top of my head, what it hinders directly is Murray's ability to move on with his life and earn a living and pay for the expense of living and defending himself. Defense asked for 2 weeks, it was said, and they got 4 months because the prosecution wants family time? Meanwhile, Murray has to retain his lawyers for 14 weeks longer then he requested after evoking his right to speedy trial. Now the trial was delayed on his request, but it does seem they used the request to impose a lengthy delay with a lame excuse (family time, seriously? Yes it's wholesome and touching but, show of hands, who else gets to take 6 weeks off their job with pay to hang out with their family?) How's Murray supposed to come up with this money to pay his lawyer(S) for 14 extra weeks? He's going to end up owing over a million $$. His medical license was suspended without any proof that he committed wrong doing, which, if he wanted to, prevents him from making a living in California, compounded by lengthy delay, Murray is really going to suffer for this in my opinion (well, the fictional character Murray is playing in this production is going to suffer, that is).


    Dear Bec, lawyers have more clients so you don't have to pay when they are not working for you at that moment, you only have to pay if they are working for excample at the trail in court, or the things they have to gather for the trail.
    So i think Murray doesn't have to pay for this delay.

    Thanks for the info bleu eyes.
  • bleu eyesbleu eyes Posts: 93
    It's really my pleasure to gain a little Bec
  • MsTrinity333MsTrinity333 Posts: 355
    Like Michael's rhythms, vocals & lyrics... layers, upon Layers, Upon LAYERS; like an onion.
    This is bigger than we know. Snedden retired a few years back so I'm sure he's just one of many fish that's to be caught in a very wide net; and rightfully so. But who or what is at the core of all this madness? <!-- ssuspicious// -->suspicious//<!-- ssuspicious// -->
    Probably the NWO... they seem to have their fingers in everything.
  • AnaMarciaAnaMarcia Posts: 860
    TS, where are you?
    There are 11 pages of discussion, we have no more arguments. You want to punish us? <!-- s:twisted: -->:twisted:<!-- s:twisted: -->
    If you have a way for this discussion, show us, please! <!-- sbow/ -->bow/<!-- sbow/ -->
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  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    TS puts forward the choice of Hoax v Sting court, but I wonder if it's that cut and dried. Can it be both or neither? I used to think MJ was in control of everything and had been from day one, but now I feel certain the hoax has evolved over the months as events outside his control have taken place.

    There may never have been a court case if everyone had caught on to the hoax early on. MJ must have thought of this as a possibility (and that's why I think TS talked about his possible return, plan A maybe, that first Halloween in 2009).

    But the world didn't catch on - everyone, media, police etc didn't scream it's a hoax, another of MJ's attention seeking ventures. We, in general, believed it.

    So plan B was put into operation - watch and wait as the wheels of the justice system start turning. See how far they will take it. See if/when they start to suspect. See if anyone will voice their suspicions or will they all carry on as if it's a legitimate case? I've said before, someone MUST suspect something's up. And if not, why not? They are supposed to be professional investigators. They can legitimately spend their days studying MJ's death, unlike us who have other jobs to do! Will they take it to trial, conviction and sentencing? Will their malpractice go as far as to send a man to prison for manslaughter when it doesn't take much to find no-one actually died?

    This scenario doesn't have to be a sting or a hoax court - just the judicial system running it's (highly dubious) course.

    This is why I think Murray's case HAS to play itself out to it's conclusion, whatever that is, before MJ will return. That could even mean Murray gets sent to prison, but I also think the case could be thrown out of court at any time on any of the technicalities that have been discussed here.

    I haven't mentioned FBI or people 'in on it', because I don't believe, for the purpose of this post,they are needed.

    Just a few thoughts.
  • MsTrinity333MsTrinity333 Posts: 355
    Speaking of LAYERS...

    <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj8wNnB_ ... playnext=1<!-- m -->

    I can not get the videos to embed so you will have to click on the link. Sorry.

    AND MORE LAYERS... Talk about Govt. Corruption.
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  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    MsTrinity333 wrote:

    Like Michael's rhythms, vocals & lyrics... layers, upon Layers, Upon LAYERS; like an onion.
    This is bigger than we know. Snedden retired a few years back so I'm sure he's just one of many fish that's to be caught in a very wide net; and rightfully so. But who or what is at the core of all this madness?
    Probably the NWO... they seem to have their fingers in everything


    In 2005 Michael was acquitted of the 14 charges against him, and became justice and at the same time justice by which the real culprits had no punishment was not.
  • MsTrinity333MsTrinity333 Posts: 355
    MsTrinity333 wrote:

    Like Michael's rhythms, vocals & lyrics... layers, upon Layers, Upon LAYERS; like an onion.
    This is bigger than we know. Snedden retired a few years back so I'm sure he's just one of many fish that's to be caught in a very wide net; and rightfully so. But who or what is at the core of all this madness?
    Probably the NWO... they seem to have their fingers in everything


    In 2005 Michael was acquitted of the 14 charges against him, and became justice and at the same time justice by which the real culprits had no punishment was not.

    I never said otherwise. But everyone knows Sneddon is DIRTY.
  • Its herIts her Posts: 1,137
    Hoax court and Sting court, simultaneously.

    The Hoax court (trial, hearings, whatever) is standing by, loitering around the courthouse, under pretense of legal red tape, to keep the fiction going and explaining, maybe, Murray's or other agent/posers' presence on court property intermittently, and in case it must be really played out as a diversion, ( <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> MICHAEL JACKSON <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> ) in order to overshadow, as MJ always does <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> , to affect a sting in another unsuspecting court proceeding.

    This, I think, is why the rescheduling, to line up the "misdirection court", the decoy, with the target. No one will suspect the extra security or Federal agents, because of this highly volatile/emotional aspect (high profile victim) of the case. The evildoers will believe themselves to be invisible/untouchable, and maybe, be more daring, as they carry on THEIR dirty business, the same day(s).

    I said before, I think Murray is a cop. Federal Agent, planted in MJ's life a couple ? years before D-Day, June 25. 2009.

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    The pix of the toys in court are for US, I think, to keep us in the loop of what is really going on. I don't think, if any targeted person peeked in, DURING staged Murray hearings, there would be any toys to be found! But, IDK, just answering the OP question.

    As for the subject(s) of the sting, they would be those who misunderstood the meaning of "Justice is blind".

    Instead of blind to everything BUTthe facts in evidence, they profit from her being $$$$$$$ituationally blind to the TRUTH.

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    Name your poison:

    health professionals drugging free adult Americans, against their wills, to prolong fraudulant medicare and Soc.Sec. "maintenance" payments;

    doctors acting as drug pushers both in and outside their office "practices", and arbitrarily facilitating deaths of weaker, "less fit" or "less cooperative" members of society;

    or, how about just dirty judges sending innocent men to prison every single day, because they don't like the way they look or where they come from, or their respectful attempts to stand up for themselves, and the Truth. Any small semblance of human free-agent-dignity (daring, by RIGHT, to point out The Truth in THEIR court <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> ), is evidence to them, that "this defendant" won't be broken by TPTB, WITHOUT doing a little time in a cage.

    Some judges, and way more than you think, actually act as though they believe they are GOD on that bench, because they are pretty much UNTOUCHABLE, and KNOW it.

    So...I will be ecstatic, if ANY of these go down hard with a <!-- smj_bad/ -->mj_bad/<!-- smj_bad/ --> sting!

    Even better, if they are all somehow interconnected, as someone said---a Domino Effect! A clean sweep! <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: --> Please, domino THROUGH MY state!!!!! <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ -->

  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Its her wrote:

    Hoax court and Sting court, simultaneously.

    The Hoax court (trial, hearings, whatever) is standing by, loitering around the courthouse, under pretense of legal red tape, to keep the fiction going and explaining, maybe, Murray's or other agent/posers' presence on court property intermittently, and in case it must be really played out as a diversion, ( MICHAEL JACKSON ) in order to overshadow, as MJ always does , to affect a sting in another unsuspecting court proceeding.

    This, I think, is why the rescheduling, to line up the "misdirection court", the decoy, with the target. No one will suspect the extra security or Federal agents, because of this highly volatile/emotional aspect (high profile victim) of the case. The evildoers will believe themselves to be invisible/untouchable, and maybe, be more daring, as they carry on THEIR dirty business, the same day(s).

    I said before, I think Murray is a cop. Federal Agent, planted in MJ's life a couple ? years before D-Day, June 25. 2009.

    viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18190&start=25#p317380

    The pix of the toys in court are for US, I think, to keep us in the loop of what is really going on. I don't think, if any targeted person peeked in, DURING staged Murray hearings, there would be any toys to be found! But, IDK, just answering the OP question.

    As for the subject(s) of the sting, they would be those who misunderstood the meaning of "Justice is blind".

    Instead of blind to everything BUTthe facts in evidence, they profit from her being $$$$$$$ituationally blind to the TRUTH.

    viewtopic.php?f=145&t=18964&start=175#p328470

    Name your poison:

    health professionals drugging free adult Americans, against their wills, to prolong fraudulant medicare and Soc.Sec. "maintenance" payments;

    doctors acting as drug pushers both in and outside their office "practices", and arbitrarily facilitating deaths of weaker, "less fit" or "less cooperative" members of society;

    or, how about just dirty judges sending innocent men to prison every single day, because they don't like the way they look or where they come from, or their respectful attempts to stand up for themselves, and the Truth. Any small semblance of human free-agent-dignity (daring, by RIGHT, to point out The Truth in THEIR court ), is evidence to them, that "this defendant" won't be broken by TPTB, WITHOUT doing a little time in a cage.

    Some judges, and way more than you think, actually act as though they believe they are GOD on that bench, because they are pretty much UNTOUCHABLE, and KNOW it.

    So...I will be ecstatic, if ANY of these go down hard with a sting!

    Even better, if they are all somehow interconnected, as someone said---a Domino Effect! A clean sweep! Please, domino THROUGH MY state!!!!!

    Tupac Shakur, JDL and 'Hollywood Star Whackers'
    by WAYNE MADSEN




    The extortion, according to the FBI document, was to further the "social and/or political goals of the Jewish Defense League."

    Shakur's killers were never caught and the FBI document appears to indicate that the Los Angeles Field Office of the FBI may have been under political pressure from Washington to not pursue the JDL lead in the assassination of Shakur.

    The Los Angeles office requested several extensions to investigate the leads pointing to the JDL extortion scheme. Eazy-E was admitted to Cedars Sinai Medical Center on February 24, 1995 with symptoms believed to be asthma. On March 16, the rapper announced that he had AIDS and ten days later, Eazy-E was dead.

    An FBI Los Angeles message to FBI headquarters, dated April 15, 1997, indicates that the JDL extortionists had targeted, in addition to Shakur and Eazy-E, other "victims yet unidentified."

    The use of the term "victim" would indicate that other entertainers had also been murdered by the JDL criminal syndicate. The FBI document states that the JDL used physical and psychological intimidation against their targets and in one case a JDL operative stated to a target, "Don't you know who I am. I'm with the JDL."

    The FBI Los Angeles office also requested permission to interview Connie Bruck, the author of a July 7, 1997, article in the New Yorker Magazine titled "The Takedown of Tupac."

    Movie actor Randy Quaid was hounded and ridiculed over his assertions that there was a group of "Hollywood Whackers" who were trying to extort money from various celebrities and threatening their lives. Ultimately, Quaid and his wife fled to British Columbia, Canada.

    The recent FBI documents lend merit to Quaid's description of the group targeting celebrities.

    However, given the fact that the criminal operation was that of a Jewish terrorist group and that Hollywood is controlled by a number of wealthy Jewish producers and businessmen, Quaid may have shied away from using the "J" word in his description of the "star whackers."

    However, the FBI, according to the recently-released document on Shakur and Eazy-E, apparently had no interest in masking the religious affiliation of the extortion-hit team.

    On November 5, 2010, WMR reported: "The Quaids say that Michael Jackson, Heath Ledger, and Chris Penn were all murdered. Randy Quaid also believes his brother, actor Dennis Quaid, with whom he is estranged, is under threat.

    "All died of drug cocktails of prescription drugs leading to cardiac arrest. The cardiologist who is related to these cases in Conrad Murray, a police cardiologist who was also Michael Jackson's personal physician at the time of his death. Jackson allegedly died from an overdose of prescription drugs and the Los Angeles Police Department originally treated the singer's death as a homicide . . ."Quaid also believes that actor Robert Blake was set up in the murder of his wife, Bonnie Lee Bakley. In 2005, Blake was found not guilty of murdering his wife or of soliciting assistance in her murder. However, Blake was later found civilly liable for his wife's death."

    WMR's report also stated: "There are also also suspicions about the 1999 death of director Stanley Kubrick, who died from a reported heart attack in England just four says after he attended a screening of his last movie, "Eyes Wide Shut," with his family and Warner Brothers executives." The movie is about a semi-religious sexual cult that features ritualistic secret orgies attended by members of the New York City wealthy elite who engage in human sacrifices.


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    I don't know why this man said that... <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • Its herIts her Posts: 1,137
    @ Paula-C:

    Well, we know he's not a cardiologist <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> , as he knew nothing about CPR. Maybe the person(who is it?) stating he was a police cardiologist misunderstood or misspoke. I don't know who was speaking, there. I'm pretty sure Murray's a cop, though.

    Sometimes there are police medics on staff, for "tazer" and chemical/ hazmat training and dive team exercises. But, even a medic would know about CPR. I think he's just a plain old detective, with the FBI. He plays a wonderfully inept quack doctor. Let's wait and see what kind of cop he is. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    Probably not required to have continuous education in first aid...just keep up with his area of law enforcement investigation, such as tactical logistics or something. "Staging a Sting". Human or drug trafficking. Medicare fraud. Serial killers. Organized crime. Missing children. Various other areas of Corporate or Criminal Justice corruption...etc.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Paula something about your last quote in your last post is scary. JDL. Michael was accused of being against jewish .......
  • TheMoonIsDancingTheMoonIsDancing Posts: 1,003
    Remember, Mike was arrested and tried. Things didn't look good for him, and was only covered by the media, news in a negative light. But he had his day in court and was found Not Guilty. Why? Because the jury were a bunch of screaming MJ fans? HA No! Quite the contrary, actually. Michael was found Not Guilty because he wasn't guilty. There was no evidence, no story that held water. Simple as that. Lets have a little more faith in the US Justice system. CM will have his day in court (if it ever happens <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> ) and despite how bad it looks on his part, he will be found Not Guilty. I do believe that! If the 'evidence' we have in this hoax is indeed Factual, then Conrad Murray is no more guilty of Manslaughter than my grandmother is.

    The troot will prevail <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
    And thank you to all of CM's fans err...'supporters'
  • peacock7peacock7 Posts: 147
    You may be right It's Her. I'm not sure who Doc Murray is but we know we heard MJ sing about him in his Smooth Criminal video (Moonwalker), so I don't know.

    Let's not forget, who was that couple that busted out the Hollywood Elite that they said was responsible for Brittany Murphy's death (her husband's next) and some others. Remember, the ones that tried to hide in Canada? Remember Mylie Cyrus's father Billy Ray pointed the finger also. Many celebrities know the truth and want to expose it.

    They want to expose the drugs (some forced on folks), the mind control and the KILLINGs by some powerbrokers in and around LA. These are sickos. They need to be put out of their misery.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    TS there had been 11 pages of suffering....if 11 means something to you pleeeeeeease come here now <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> !!

    Please <!-- sbow/ -->bow/<!-- sbow/ -->
  • t now... I just read all the clues that he has given us and I just believe this is dumb as hell. To be perfectly honest. There are some things that you might think have bits of truth in them but the rest confusing. It's like one thing doens't connect to the other and I'm trying to figure it out but I'm not going to rack my brain on because that's ridiculous...

    I'm gonna go and buy some new headphones, go to sleep and try this again later when I think I am up for bullshit riddles... <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    I'm reading all of the things you guys have been writing. Amazing info on this thread. I want to thank all of you for the great investigation you guys are doing. <!-- sbow/ -->bow/<!-- sbow/ -->

    And I think TS will be writing in his own time. So I think there is no need to ask him to come up and write.
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  • scorpionchikscorpionchik Posts: 2,669
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    I LOOOVE YOUR AVATAR. MMMMMM MICHAEL IS SOOO HOOOT. I WANT TO KISS HIS DUCK MOUTH.
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  • And I think TS will be writing in his own time. So I think there is no need to ask him to come up and write.
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    I agree
  • "Our objective is complete freedom, justice and equality by any means necessary." Malcolm X
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    Sting Court!
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  • gatorgirl277 GiGi

    @halimarashid Hi Halima. Can you confirm/deny Brian's statement that you are Tohme Tohme's cousin/introduced Tohme to your husband? Thanks.

    halimarashid Halima Rashid

    @gatorgirl277 I am by no means related to Tohme at all, he is no ken to me. He is Lebanese, I am Afghan @jermjackson5 and I met him together

    magicpoetryx Veronica Jackson

    @halimarashid @gatorgirl277 @jermjackson5 Who is Tohme? I have heard many ugly things about him...
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    halimarashid Halima Rashid

    @magicpoetryx @gatorgirl277 you are right, Tohme is not a nice guy...

    KarlaJorge JUSTICE SEEKER

    @halimarashid @gatorgirl277 Can u tell us why he is not being further investigated and why Jerm refuses to answer our questions re Tohme?

    Jermaine Jackson

    @KarlaJorge I'm not refusing to answer Qs about Tohme Tohme. I'm just not doing it via a 140-character medium

    @jermjackson5 We'd love for you to speak out at some point about Tohme. Many are concerned he may be a key player in MJ's murder.


    So does anyone think Tohme Tohme has anything to do with the sting.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    It's hard to speculate about a character you know nothing about. And we know nothing about Tohme beyond rumor and speculation.
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400

    Where is Tohme anyway? He was scheduled to appear on Larry King Live in 2009 and if my memory isn't failing, the date he was set to show up was November 5th. I don't think we ever heard anything from him after that, he just disappeared.

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."


  • Where is Tohme anyway? He was scheduled to appear on Larry King Live in 2009 and if my memory isn't failing, the date he was set to show up was November 5th. I don't think we ever heard anything from him after that, he just disappeared.

    The last I heard about Tohme was that he was supposed to testify in the trial because he was a key witness.

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    According to an article on CNN.com, Dr. Murray's lawyers have argued that Tohme is a critical witness for their strategy to prove Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of anesthesia that led to his death on June 25, 2009. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor has agreed to let the subpoena of Tohme stand because he was Jackson's business manager at the time of his death, though Pastor indicated that he may later consider limiting the subjects on which Tohme would be questioned in the trial.
    Dr. Murray's attorneys indicated that Tohme may shed light on the pressure that was placed on Jackson in the months leading to his death. He was preparing for the 50 shows he was to perform for AED Live in London, starting that July. The defense indicated that Tohme had been responsible for negotiating the deal with AEG.
    One of Dr. Murray's lawyers, Nareg Gourjian, stated that Tohme had, “intimate knowledge of his (Jackson's) finances, drug use, his habits,” and would therefore be relevant to the case.
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