TIAI May 1

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  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    I agree TS...got some advise on this one?? I expected this so I'm not surprised, but there are some who will be giving up now..
    At this rate of over two years to get into court...it will be 4.. FOUR years just to get this settled.
    So much for we have 4 years....
  • _Anna__Anna_ Posts: 1,739
    I hope we'll get a comment on this, I can't understand this and I will keep to myself everything I feel right now.

    It doesn't have to be a mystery. If TS knows for real what he says, a genuine comment on this is not much to ask. It's been so long, too long, too many delays. If it's calculated, if Michael had everything under control, all this now makes no sense. In a short time no one will be here anymore. What is too much is too much. People will come and say "it's all going as planned", but it doesn't work anymore. I would really like to see a genuine real answer from TS. After all he's been struggling for 2 years to make people understand he has genuine informations and is a genuine informer.

    I don't think we ask too much.
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    Don't worry y'all, truth will prevail on all accounts.
    We've come a long way. A much longer way than that one. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    PureLove said:" A question to debunk my theory:

    If everyone doesn't know about the hoax, didn't they realize something weird is going on with all the toys in the courtroom?"

    Is it possible that these toys we are seeing were photoshopped into the pictures? Why? I have no clue. I just don't really believe anything is what it is. The toys in the courtroom just do not fit a real court.

    I can't remember if the term, "kangaroo court" has been used. It's basically a term used for court/trials that have their integrity questioned. Here is a link to the Wiki for it, it's easier to understand:

    <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court<!-- m -->

    With the 2005 trial, it was so one-sided. In the end, Michael was released, but justice was hardly done. I believe certain people were out to de-fame him, not necessarily jail him. Whoever was truly behind the allegations, needed to make sure the courts were used as a puppet. They obviously knew that the egos of people like Sneddon would take on a life of their own. All they had to do was provide the questionable behavior. I think they opened the door of doubt in the '90s allegations. When that didn't work, they waited for another time. They knew the public had seen it once, they were primed for, "......here we go again, he must be guilty this time.....". A kangaroo court had been established in 2005....things were a joke. I think Sneddon just saw it has a notch in the bedpost of his career....but who really was behind it? Maybe the LAPD, the courts....but really, what would they have to gain? To bring about such allegations, to bring him down publicly....who would have wanted to see that? Who would want the spotlight on Michael's reputation? Some say the Catholic Church (because of their own sex scandals), some say Sony (maybe for money/control), some say Illuminati (because Michael is nobody's puppet)......I have no idea. I do think we are going to find it out.....soon. I have said from the beginning; I hope this is about the allegations and trials. Justice in the eyes of fans was served...Michael was free. However, the real reason for the allegations was to serve as a scarlet letter upon Michael for life.....a false scarlet letter, of course. The public was primed to believe his guilt, though proven innocent......like Murray.
    So, perhaps again, a few key people are in on this sting/hoax of a court. Perhaps this whole thing is about to show the world how a court of law can be used as a puppet, manipulated and ultimately tamed to jump on command. (nice animal reference). It might very well be that the FBI uncovered a trail of some sort. A pattern of corruption, of due process being thrown aside for money, etc. I am not sure how the numbers play into all of it...I am sure they do. For all I know case numbers are being referenced, when we think it's a date. I have no idea. I can totally see Michael wanting to use his creativity with a sting. To be the ringmaster of the greatest sting in history....it's a Michael thing, gotta love him! To catch the world's attention, Michael's death was needed. It was believable and by all accounts, doable. The 2005 trial has its own set of problems and questions. I think looking at those will help this trial. Nothing seemed right back then either. I have questioned it all at one time or another. I suppose history will provide the answer. Hindsight is 20/20....so they say!
    Anyways, the toys have always bugged me...they just don't fit.

    Many Blessings!
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    Yulia wrote:



    Yambo3003 wrote:The trial date has been delayed again to September. Care to take a moment and comment about it, TS?


    aaaaayyyyyyyyy nooooooooooooooooo <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ -->
  • AnaMarciaAnaMarcia Posts: 860
    I hope we'll get a comment on this, I can't understand this and I will keep to myself everything I feel right now.

    It doesn't have to be a mystery. If TS knows for real what he says, a genuine comment on this is not much to ask. It's been so long, too long, too many delays. If it's calculated, if Michael had everything under control, all this now makes no sense. In a short time no one will be here anymore. What is too much is too much. People will come and say "it's all going as planned", but it doesn't work anymore. I would really like to see a genuine real answer from TS. After all he's been struggling for 2 years to make people understand he has genuine informations and is a genuine informer.

    I don't think we ask too much.

    TS just says "we are coming to an end" ... since the postponement of March, he never gave us explanations!
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    All things are coming to an end as soon as they begin.
  • heartphantomheartphantom Posts: 722
    1. TS, i hope i am not asking too much but did you know about this long delay?
    2. A sting operation means FBI is in on it. I am not convinced FBI is involved, because i have no facts to take this information for granted, so the sting operation is not 100% possible in my mind.But if i get over the fbi thing, i see no relevant action from how Michael could play a role for catching the target. What role and what target? How can he help being dead or did a fake death actually contribute to it? It's been 2 years so i'm not sure this was his role he would have returned by now. When we talk about it from a general perspective it all makes such a great sense but when we dig and ask in a concrete way: who is the target? what is his role? how could he help exaclty? we get stucked and abandon saying well, we don't know everything, time will tell. BUt time is being pushed and pushed and pushed. I wish you could just tell us what you know and that's it. At least you could have told us today expect for a very loong delay don't get dissapointed and you would have blown our minds with this FACT.
    This is not a multilevel game, it's our life. If it were for a game i wouldn't have lost important things in my real life in these 2 years. Not for a game. And i don't need to be re-educated either, neither taught and learnt how to think. I just want to know if Michael is okay and if he will ever return. That's all. I can take care of myself and my own education in my real life. Here i am for Michael, not for me.
  • Le Papillon BleuLe Papillon Bleu Posts: 1,209
    1. TS, i hope i am not asking too much but did you know about this long delay?
    2. A sting operation means FBI is in on it. I am not convinced FBI is involved, because i have no facts to take this information for granted, so the sting operation is not 100% possible in my mind.But if i get over the fbi thing, i see no relevant action from how Michael could play a role for catching the target. What role and what target? How can he help being dead or did a fake death actually contribute to it? It's been 2 years so i'm not sure this was his role he would have returned by now. When we talk about it from a general perspective it all makes such a great sense but when we dig and ask in a concrete way: who is the target? what is his role? how could he help exaclty? we get stucked and abandon saying well, we don't know everything, time will tell. BUt time is being pushed and pushed and pushed. I wish you could just tell us what you know and that's it. At least you could have told us today expect for a very loong delay don't get dissapointed and you would have blown our minds with this FACT.
    This is not a multilevel game, it's our life. If it were for a game i wouldn't have lost important things in my real life in these 2 years. Not for a game. And i don't need to be re-educated either, neither taught and learnt how to think. I just want to know if Michael is okay and if he will ever return. That's all. I can take care of myself and my own education in my real life. Here i am for Michael, not for me.
    <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: --> my thought also..plus i kind of lost my interest in all of this...my eyes hurt seeing so much written but nothing has been made....
  • DanielaDaniela Posts: 37
    This is total BS. We have absolutely no proof that TS has any inside information, yet we are faithfully following his directions, which send us in circles chasing our tails. I, for one, am not convinced that TS knows any more than we do. He is just having fun at our expense.
  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    1. TS, i hope i am not asking too much but did you know about this long delay?
    2. A sting operation means FBI is in on it. I am not convinced FBI is involved, because i have no facts to take this information for granted, so the sting operation is not 100% possible in my mind.But if i get over the fbi thing, i see no relevant action from how Michael could play a role for catching the target. What role and what target? How can he help being dead or did a fake death actually contribute to it? It's been 2 years so i'm not sure this was his role he would have returned by now. When we talk about it from a general perspective it all makes such a great sense but when we dig and ask in a concrete way: who is the target? what is his role? how could he help exaclty? we get stucked and abandon saying well, we don't know everything, time will tell. BUt time is being pushed and pushed and pushed. I wish you could just tell us what you know and that's it. At least you could have told us today expect for a very loong delay don't get dissapointed and you would have blown our minds with this FACT.
    This is not a multilevel game, it's our life. If it were for a game i wouldn't have lost important things in my real life in these 2 years. Not for a game. And i don't need to be re-educated either, neither taught and learnt how to think. I just want to know if Michael is okay and if he will ever return. That's all. I can take care of myself and my own education in my real life. Here i am for Michael, not for me.


    GREAT post. I agree..but I DO realize, that IF genuine, how could TS tell us or make us believe him? I think we need to just go with the flow. Take what we can from him, analyze his info and the info we get from him and see if it works. So far, some solutions are solid. Right? I don't think we'll get what we want from him nor can we.
    I also agree, that this has turned into a game. Until TS it wasn't. It was research. That's cool by me, I love that. I don't like games nor do I have interest in wasting time on one. I could be wasting it researching Elvis lol!! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
    I didn't want to learn how to learn either or I'd be back in college. I don't want to be a sheep or goat either. I want to simply know the truth. I want to know if someone seems to be in the know...PROVE you are right. So far..TS has given us clues, but, nothing to say to us...geez, he's RIGHT..he does KNOW.
    Perhaps, during this sting, if you believe it is one, there was the opportunity for Michael to regain what was lost because of what was done in trying to destroy him. Evidence was there that showed he was being "hunted" for his catalog and the corruption drizzled down to the local level, where it would have to begin...and the hopes where Michael would lose ALL and have to sell that catalog. He did lose. He lost the opportunity for freedom, a chance to sell his music as before, his sanity, his pride. There was sneers, even if just self imposed. There were accusations. Those very accusations are now BLOWN up!! All the press and DA wanted us to believe is represented once again. Thus, again, seeing who believes it. This all will expose who was behind it...(and not just the little guy Sneddon alone)... and all the slander back then and that they spew now too!!
    This is my opinion...but, I think as far as ts...absorb what you can...related it to what you believe and see if you can use it. He seems to play with us and hopefully, we can find a way to get him to show us he's accurate.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    The postponement of the trial is maybe due to an external event and there's no other solution than to delay it, it's an ARG so not everything can go 100% like planned. It's been a long ride for everyone and I'm sure for Michael even more. We are here for him but do we all know what Michael wants from us? Maybe that he wants a little more than just us knowing he's alive. There is a reason for everything even if the reason does not seem clear at the time. Time will tell all that's why patience is required.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    wow....I'm sure everybody will come around soon <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->

    anyway, I was thinking.....Michael didn't want to make those 50 shows, but OTHERS always wanted him to do all sort of things ....right, they were greedy....this happened to Michael all his life.
    He was the megastar who made millions for those around.

    His own mother pushed him in the past to make shows he never wanted to do.
    These were just some random thoughts.

    If this is a sting operation, like some of you already said, who's the target and how could Michael's faked death help FBI to catch some criminals? But who are they?!
    I was thinking today if they could be the estate attorneys?! In 2003 Michael fired John Branca, just to rehire him around the London shows. The same with Frank Dileo. What do we really know about these 2 people?

    Look at this post:

    <!-- m -->http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/ ... hael-63190<!-- m -->

    "Yesterday, TMZ reported that music attorney John Branca of the Ziffren Brittenham firm was re-hired by Michael Jackson three weeks ago and that he has a copy of the late singer's will. But court papers filed yesterday by Michael Jackson's mother say the family hasn't been able to locate any will.
    So who's right? We spoke to Branca today, and from his first interview on the subject we can confirm that Branca has been appointed as co-executor of the Jackson estate and that an announcement about the will is forthcoming.
    ............Branca says he was re-hired by Michael himself two weeks ago in preparation for the singer's planned comeback tour. ..................
    So what did he and Michael talk about? "We discussed how to exploit his valuable brand and the upcoming concert," says Branca.
    Branca was as shocked as anyone to hear the news last week that Michael had been rushed to the hospital. Now, as co-executor of the estate, Branca will be handling the music publishing agreements that will earn the estate significant revenues over the coming years. This is the lawyer's specialty. Last year, for example, Branca represented the Rodgers & Hammerstein Org in a $250 million sale of the rights to hit broadway musicals.

    When asked about the will, Branca let this tidbit fly:
    "The will hasn't been filed yet," he said.

    Would Branca confirm the existence of the much talked-about Michael Jackson will? THR's Roger Friedman has been reporting for days that Jackson drafted a will in 2002, dividing his estate among his mother, three children, and charities (but not his father), and that the will should be filed in Los Angeles Superior Court as soon as Thursday.

    "It'll all be clear within 48 hours," he responded. "Much more will be revealed soon."

    "In the Michael Jackson probate case, Branca produced Jackson's final will and testament, which designated Branca as executor. The Jackson family filed a preemptive probate action in the Los Angeles Superior Court, based on the allegation that Jackson died "intestate," without a valid will. Branca filed the will in Los Angeles on July 1, 2009 and was appointed co-executor." Joseph said the will is fake? Is it fake or not?

    "In 2003, Michael Jackson launched an investigation into Mr. Branca's suspected embezzlement activities regarding Michael Jackson's money. It was reported that there was a relationship between Sony Executive Tommy Mottola and John Branca whereby Mr. Branca and Mr. Mottola were involved in an offshore account in the Caribbean and Sony was transferring money into that account which implied that it was to benefit Mr. Branca.
    INTERFOR REPORT: The Interfor Report caused Michael Jackson great anger and Michael Jackson demanded Mr. Branca to never have anything to do with him, his business, his family, or his personal life again. Michael Jackson Terminated Mr. Branca because of what he learned. Why would Mr. Jackson rehire this attorney to become an executor of his estate? Mr. Branca claims that Mr. Jackson rehired him just 8 days before Mr. Jackson was murdered. As the truth unfolds, it is obvious why Mr. Jackson feared for his life!
    Additionally, Mr. Branca has just recently made a $200 million guaranteed contract with Sony Music Entertainment for 10 projects over seven years. "

    Maybe it's all about Sony....maybe they are the target, but I don't see in what way
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    Sorry for the long post, I really don't like to make long posts.

    The idea is that I think it is suspicious that Michael rehired Branca 2 weeks before London shows even if in the past he said he wanted Branca out for good, that Branca knew about the will while Ms. Katherine had no idea, that no hoax theories are allowed to be discussed on the official site michaeljackson.com.....and while we know very well how Michael felt about Sony, why would he allow Sony to run the Michael Jackson official site?

    There's something about this whole picture that doesn't sound right to me.
  • MJFAN7MJFAN7 Posts: 3,063
    Thanks TS for the next level. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
    I really wish I could participate in this, but for one, i have no expertise on these subjects, and for two, ive been very busy with other stuff the past few months. However, I am very intrigued by the discussions that occur in these topics, so I like to follow them and read what others are saying. I see that the trial has been delayed again, now it's September. Why is it constantly being delayed? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->

    Anyway, let me just moonwalk out of the way, <!-- smoonwalk_/ -->moonwalk_/<!-- smoonwalk_/ -->

    (ive been dying to use that <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->)
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    I to admit that I do not like this delay.. but I do not go away until all that ends <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: -->
  • AnaMarciaAnaMarcia Posts: 860
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  • AnaMarciaAnaMarcia Posts: 860
    Is this discussion proposed by TS may have something to do with this delay?
    Just think a coincidence one day before the announcement of the postponement of the trial! <!-- sconfused/ -->confused/<!-- sconfused/ --> <!-- sconfused/ -->confused/<!-- sconfused/ --> <!-- sconfused/ -->confused/<!-- sconfused/ -->
  • heartphantomheartphantom Posts: 722
    it was in plan already.
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    I think it is a hoax court. No charges were read out loud and we have no evidence that Murray was ever arrested.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    PureLove said:" A question to debunk my theory:

    If everyone doesn't know about the hoax, didn't they realize something weird is going on with all the toys in the courtroom?"

    Is it possible that these toys we are seeing were photoshopped into the pictures? Why? I have no clue. I just don't really believe anything is what it is. The toys in the courtroom just do not fit a real court.

    The toys were there, in the courtroom. People who were inside the courtroom like MJHoaxLive (Twiggy) reported about the toys. They're not photoshopped.
  • PureLovePureLove Posts: 5,891
    1. TS, i hope i am not asking too much but did you know about this long delay?

    This is not a multilevel game, it's our life. If it were for a game i wouldn't have lost important things in my real life in these 2 years. Not for a game. And i don't need to be re-educated either, neither taught and learnt how to think. I just want to know if Michael is okay and if he will ever return. That's all. I can take care of myself and my own education in my real life. Here i am for Michael, not for me.


    GREAT post. I agree..but I DO realize, that IF genuine, how could TS tell us or make us believe him? I think we need to just go with the flow. Take what we can from him, analyze his info and the info we get from him and see if it works. So far, some solutions are solid. Right? I don't think we'll get what we want from him nor can we.

    I think TS didn't know about the delay of the trial because he just wrote that we were very close to the end which is now seems too far away. About the issue if TS can make us believe that he is an insider, there's only one option. I wrote it a year ago. We decide for a secret code and someone PMs it to TS and TS asks the Jacksons to make a tweet with the code we chose. One of the Jacksons make the tweet and BAM! It's that simple to be sure that he has an inside info. When I first wrote it, people told me that TS didn't need to prove anything. But I think after 2 years and after the delayed trial, when our hopes and patience are getting lost, I think we NEED to learn if we have a genuine source.
  • RKRK Posts: 3,019
    Ain't gonna happen purelove. He doesn't have to and he won't because even if people are questioning and disgruntled, they are still going to keep checking TS posts to see if their current opinion regarding him proves true. So moot point.
  • fordtocarrfordtocarr Posts: 1,547
    TS....me again...griping again...sorry. I do SOOOO appreciate you help, and I DO understand your position, as you state it to be in regards to this hoax/sting.
    But, TS, honestly, today has sent some of our members into depression and despair.
    I'm really hoping that you can ease them...help with some sort of reaffirmation...give them something to hold onto. They feel hopeless and like their world is being yanked from them.
    You say you cannot reveal more than you do, but I really hope you can find a way to help my new FANily here...they, we all love Michael and want to help and understand.
    If you can help them...please find a way...
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    TS wrote: We also know that for years the FBI investigated MJ, and the pedophile claim; but they found nothing against MJ. Could it be that in the process of this investigation, the FBI found evidence of corruption in the LA prosecution and the MJ trial? Could it be that as a result, the FBI in cooperation with MJ decided to make the LA court system the focus of a sting operation? Please remember that the “top priority” of the FBI is “public corruption” in government agencies; and their investigation specifically includes “verdicts handed down in courts”
    {http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/corruption}.

    We must remember the ferocious hunting by the Tom Sneddon district attorney evidence of falsification of evidence by the Prosecutor and the LAPD, which was reflected in the own summary of the case, and the contribution of the media sowing doubt as to his innocence.
    Journalist William Wagener has denounced the case of the manufacture of the evidence and corruption in this and other cases before the superior court of Santa Maria. Also that laws were changed so that certain judges were re-elected without choice, so that could help the accusations to Michael.
    The also speaks of the case of Murray the trial will be done so that no one come out sharp and explains the corruption of judges in the State of California, compared with the case of 2005. There are people who have accused Sneddon of attempting to ruin their careers or their political campaigns manufactured evidence.

    The trial of 2005 is the worst episode in the life of Michael, that damage to the today still persists thanks to the media, which is reason enough to want to expose these corrupt, ..sufficient reason for revenge
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