<br /><br />Death With Dignity. It is a patient who is dying, and instead of dying unexpectedly in a hospital, they can end their lives voluntarily with lethal injections. Some people prefer this, because they will be able to pass away at the time they want to, perhaps surrounded by family and friends in the comfort of their own home. TS_Comments talked a lot about this, and suggested that a DWD patient was the person who died on June 25th in Michael's home.
I honestly thought today could have potentially been a bam day because of the fact that it is december 27th and just the notion of the numerology ideology would have brought me to that assertion. However, I have to take a step back and contemplate this all...because we have been expecting a BAM, But in reality...why do have a timetable set for a return? Isn't the foundation of this hoax built upon spontaneity coupled with an unprecedented amount of uncertainty? On june 25th, 2009...did we initially *expect* michael to initiate the greatest hoax of this generation? SO why then are we expecting michael to return on a certain date? Michael's unpredictable behavior could only indicate that he will bam when an unassuming eye least suspects...on a day in which many of will not believe he will bam on...<br /><br /><br />I apologize if this is wavering off topic...but having to observe all these oddities have caused me to think...if michael wanted to bam...would he really want us to pinpoint the exact day he would choose to bam? OR do you believe he will shock in the world...and even us hoax believers on a day none would expect?<br /><br />Just food for thought. <br /><br /><br />patience...I've been lacking a tremendous amount of that...and I think we are to remind ourselves to hold on to that quality...because without patience we run the risk of severely eradicating our ability to coherently make sense of all this perplexing news about michael and the hoax.<br /><br />
Hi Bigshot.<br /><br />On a personal note, I love that people come back to the hoax. Like you, Mr. Bigshot, you may not be here every day but invariably, you turn back up and you still believe.
Nice to here from you Bec,<br /><br />I've been lingering for a bit, I don't always post but I like to keep an eye on what is going on so I am don't miss any crucial information.<br /><br />but guys,<br /><br />seriously.<br /><br />calm yourselves. he's coming back. very soon, I am that sure of it. don't expect it to be the day you want it to be, but in the near future we will have our bamsday. this wont drag on for years, i guarantee it.
<br />I honestly thought today could have potentially been a bam day because of the fact that it is december 27th and just the notion of the numerology ideology would have brought me to that assertion. However, I have to take a step back and contemplate this all...because we have been expecting a BAM, But in reality...why do have a timetable set for a return? Isn't the foundation of this hoax built upon spontaneity coupled with an unprecedented amount of uncertainty? On june 25th, 2009...did we initially *expect* michael to initiate the greatest hoax of this generation? SO why then are we expecting michael to return on a certain date? Michael's unpredictable behavior could only indicate that he will bam when an unassuming eye least suspects...on a day in which many of will not believe he will bam on...<br /><br /><br />I apologize if this is wavering off topic...but having to observe all these oddities have caused me to think...if michael wanted to bam...would he really want us to pinpoint the exact day he would choose to bam? OR do you believe he will shock in the world...and even us hoax believers on a day none would expect?<br /><br />Just food for thought. <br /><br /><br />patience...I've been lacking a tremendous amount of that...and I think we are to remind ourselves to hold on to that quality...because without patience we run the risk of severely eradicating our ability to coherently make sense of all this perplexing news about michael and the hoax.<br /><br /><br />
<br />You always have a way with words! And I like your positive thinking!
<br />I honestly thought today could have potentially been a bam day because of the fact that it is december 27th and just the notion of the numerology ideology would have brought me to that assertion. However, I have to take a step back and contemplate this all...because we have been expecting a BAM, But in reality...why do have a timetable set for a return? Isn't the foundation of this hoax built upon spontaneity coupled with an unprecedented amount of uncertainty? On june 25th, 2009...did we initially *expect* michael to initiate the greatest hoax of this generation? SO why then are we expecting michael to return on a certain date? Michael's unpredictable behavior could only indicate that he will bam when an unassuming eye least suspects...on a day in which many of will not believe he will bam on...<br /><br /><br />I apologize if this is wavering off topic...but having to observe all these oddities have caused me to think...if michael wanted to bam...would he really want us to pinpoint the exact day he would choose to bam? OR do you believe he will shock in the world...and even us hoax believers on a day none would expect?<br /><br />Just food for thought. <br /><br /><br />patience...I've been lacking a tremendous amount of that...and I think we are to remind ourselves to hold on to that quality...because without patience we run the risk of severely eradicating our ability to coherently make sense of all this perplexing news about michael and the hoax.<br /><br /><br />
<br />You always have a way with words! And I like your positive thinking!<br />
<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />+1,........ the post of the day mrbigshot :th_bravo:
<br />I honestly thought today could have potentially been a bam day because of the fact that it is december 27th and just the notion of the numerology ideology would have brought me to that assertion. However, I have to take a step back and contemplate this all...because we have been expecting a BAM, But in reality...why do have a timetable set for a return? Isn't the foundation of this hoax built upon spontaneity coupled with an unprecedented amount of uncertainty? On june 25th, 2009...did we initially *expect* michael to initiate the greatest hoax of this generation? SO why then are we expecting michael to return on a certain date? Michael's unpredictable behavior could only indicate that he will bam when an unassuming eye least suspects...on a day in which many of will not believe he will bam on...<br /><br /><br />I apologize if this is wavering off topic...but having to observe all these oddities have caused me to think...if michael wanted to bam...would he really want us to pinpoint the exact day he would choose to bam? OR do you believe he will shock in the world...and even us hoax believers on a day none would expect?<br /><br />Just food for thought. <br /><br /><br />patience...I've been lacking a tremendous amount of that...and I think we are to remind ourselves to hold on to that quality...because without patience we run the risk of severely eradicating our ability to coherently make sense of all this perplexing news about michael and the hoax.<br />
<br /><br />I really think that Michael won't BAM in any of days we think or we suppose because the mere fact that we are ready for a BAM (in that day course) is something that Michael doesn't wish, i.e. he wanna shock the world "including us", my guess is that he might have aborted the BAM of these past days so if he is to BAM he will do it any time.
Yeah except all the preponderance on "Time". Time is a common theme throughout the hoax and consider the repeated and final line in Speed Demon remix "I've got to be on Time". If you have to be on time the deadline is not flexible.
<br />Yeah except all the preponderance on "Time". Time is a common theme throughout the hoax and consider the repeated and final line in Speed Demon remix "I've got to be on Time". If you have to be on time the deadline is not flexible.<br />
<br /><br />So why those hundreds of clues/hints about Dec 21st and 25, which has the purpose been? why so many family tweets about Christmas? about the beginning? This is crazy, really.
I agree with you mrbigshot. As I have said before, and will say again, "If we knew when he would BAM, then it wouldn't be a BAM! <br /><br />Stay blessed!<br />OnTheWingsOfLove
<br />Yeah except all the preponderance on "Time". Time is a common theme throughout the hoax and consider the repeated and final line in Speed Demon remix "I've got to be on Time". If you have to be on time the deadline is not flexible.<br />
<br /><br />So why those hundreds of clues/hints about Dec 21st and 25, which has the purpose been? why so many family tweets about Christmas? about the beginning? This is crazy, really.<br />
<br />I agree with you mrbigshot. As I have said before, and will say again, "If we knew when he would BAM, then it wouldn't be a BAM! <br /><br />Stay blessed!<br />OnTheWingsOfLove<br />
<br /><br />Yes I agree but on the other hand if Michael doesn't want us to know the exactly day of BAM, which is the purpose of those clues hinting the BAM (I include TS's posts)?
<br />Yeah except all the preponderance on "Time". Time is a common theme throughout the hoax and consider the repeated and final line in Speed Demon remix "I've got to be on Time". If you have to be on time the deadline is not flexible.<br />
<br /><br />So why those hundreds of clues/hints about Dec 21st and 25, which has the purpose been? why so many family tweets about Christmas? about the beginning? This is crazy, really.<br />
<br /><br />Because it's mind games.<br />
<br /><br />i personally think that our expectation of BAM has nothing to do with comeback. MJ has setup a date and he's gonna come back then...none of our emotions or expectations are going to influence it. There are people who expect a bam everyday, that wouldn't mean he's going to post-pone it infinitely, is it?<br /><br />i feel our reason for surprise would be the way he bams...and not the day...<br /><br />What all need to do is be patient.
<br /><br />Yes I agree but on the other hand if Michael doesn't want us to know the exactly day of BAM, which is the purpose of those clues hinting the BAM (I include TS's posts)?<br />
<br /><br />Perhaps he finds it amusing to see us scratching our heads and clutching at straws. Or maybe he is just giving us something to do while we're sitting around in the waiting room. Or maybe they were possible dates. Or maybe he's testing our faith and resolve. Or maybe I'm suffering from delusional psychosis as my friends would suggest. :over-react-smiley:<br /><br />tIME will tell, I guess, whether we're prescient or ready for the men in white coats (as opposed to black sequin jackets!).
Flashback: if we had known it was going to take 3.5+ years back in the summer of 2009 we never would have stuck around long enough to learn enough to truly believe. That's still the case. If you do this for a couple of months or even a year or two you won't learn enough for your own mind to be confident enough to believe given the duration of time and the ambiguity of the clues.
<br />Well it seems to me that we all fell down the "rabbit hole!" <br /><br />We have had here a "sea of tears" that became crowded with others that had been swept away with the hoax.<br /><br />We have played a game that in many ways descended into chaos with some of the members here.<br /><br />Don't forget the trial and all of the mathematics!<br /><br />Was it the mad hatter that ran around with the clock, consumed with time?<br /><br />This certainly seems like a 21 century "Adventures of Alice in Wonderland" to me! And don't they refer to that book as the "best example of literary [size=10pt]nonsense[/size]"?<br /><br />And just like Alice we will eventually be able to go off and think back on all the things that appeared to be nonsense. And might I add with a smile. Just a thought!<br /><br />Blessings to you all for the coming New Year!<br />OnTheWingsOfLove
<br />so you mean false dates were given for a purpose...for us to stick to this hoax?<br />
<br /><br /><br />I think so. The possibility that a BAM could've happened anytime after June 25th has kept the hoax audience captive these last 3.5 years. Also, the "false flag" BAM dates will make the real BAM all the more thrilling and unexpected.
<br />so you mean false dates were given for a purpose...for us to stick to this hoax?<br />
<br /><br /><br />I think so. The possibility that a BAM could've happened anytime after June 25th has kept the hoax audience captive these last 3.5 years. Also, the "false flag" BAM dates will make the real BAM all the more thrilling and unexpected.<br />
<br /><br />isn't that possibility of Bam purely our assumptions? Michael to BAM in late 2009 or 2010 is quite impossible, given the reason that he is upto some sting (on public and some institutions). He definitely needed time to carry out all the things he had planned to do while he in hiding/playing dead. <br />
<br />so you mean false dates were given for a purpose...for us to stick to this hoax?<br />
<br /><br /><br />I think so. The possibility that a BAM could've happened anytime after June 25th has kept the hoax audience captive these last 3.5 years. Also, the "false flag" BAM dates will make the real BAM all the more thrilling and unexpected.<br />
<br /><br />isn't that possibility of Bam purely our assumptions? Michael to BAM in late 2009 or 2010 is quite impossible, given the reason that he is upto some sting (on public and some institutions). He definitely needed time to carry out all the things he had planned to do while he in hiding/playing dead.<br />
<br /><br /><br />Ya some assumptions but hints from TS as well along the way. I remember thinking it might be certain dates before the year mark had even hit, and then thinking it might've been a year exactly too. The time needed wasn't forefront in my thoughts back then but I've adapted to it, lol. It's much easier to see the bigger picture in hindsight.
<br />Yeah except all the preponderance on "Time". Time is a common theme throughout the hoax and consider the repeated and final line in Speed Demon remix "I've got to be on Time". If you have to be on time the deadline is not flexible.<br />
<br /><br />So why those hundreds of clues/hints about Dec 21st and 25, which has the purpose been? why so many family tweets about Christmas? about the beginning? This is crazy, really.<br />
<br /><br />Because it's mind games.<br />
<br /><br />i personally think that our expectation of BAM has nothing to do with comeback. MJ has setup a date and he's gonna come back then...none of our emotions or expectations are going to influence it. There are people who expect a bam everyday, that wouldn't mean he's going to post-pone it infinitely, is it?<br /><br />i feel our reason for surprise would be the way he bams...and not the day...<br /><br />What all need to do is be patient.<br />
<br /><br />Patience definitely. Everyday I hope it's the day too, but I fumble around numbers to see if it means anything :icon_geek: we only have TS saying before Jan.1 or is fake informer. :icon_question:<br />I think that the dates around 21st and xmas are significant markers not just mind games. <br />Maybe I just read into the numbers too much, but so far we have the story about CM on the 18th that is 15days until new years, and the story also draws attention to the 21st deadline...that's 12 days until new years, then 7days later was the next strange TMZ story about the DL, Christmas eve -we see Michael Joe Jackson's stare, and 7 days later is new years day.<br />Idk, so wait and see what New Year's brings. :ghsdf: <br />
<br /><br />i personally think that our expectation of BAM has nothing to do with comeback. MJ has setup a date and he's gonna come back then...none of our emotions or expectations are going to influence it. There are people who expect a bam everyday, that wouldn't mean he's going to post-pone it infinitely, is it?<br /><br />i feel our reason for surprise would be the way he bams...and not the day...<br /><br />What all need to do is be patient.<br />[/quote]<br /> <br /> ******<br /><br />I agree... I believe MJ will BAM is a huge way. This is how I picture it: New york City, New Years Eve... ball drops and then BAM an unexpected performance. That way it will be a huge shock for the world and so many will be able to witness it. That's my fantasy anyways... :icon_eek:<br /><br />
<br />Yeah except all the preponderance on "Time". Time is a common theme throughout the hoax and consider the repeated and final line in Speed Demon remix "I've got to be on Time". If you have to be on time the deadline is not flexible.<br />
<br /><br />So why those hundreds of clues/hints about Dec 21st and 25, which has the purpose been? why so many family tweets about Christmas? about the beginning? This is crazy, really.<br />
<br /><br /><br />Let me put this all into perspective here for a second. Death is inevitable. It is the only certainty that is permanent. As we get older, we learn to cope with this inevitability. Although it has never been a pleasantry, generally, the average individual survives long enough to reach their fullest potential, having created a family to help to immortalize the family name. Then finally, when we have progressed enough into our lives, we disintegrate into the ground. Hopefully, we have existed long enough to have grandchildren and for the very fortunate, watch them grow to be young adults. Any living being that has once thrived on this earth, will cease to exist as long as life is a practicality. Although we contemplate our demise, and there is so much fascination dealing with the afterlife and what our fate entails, we will never be able to fully experience the mystery that has generated such wonderment...of course until we finally reach that ultimatum....however, that being said. How many of you constantly go around, marking your date of death? Sure, we know mortality can occur at any moment...but do we really profoundly look into our deaths, and say "oh I think I can expect to die on the 30th of December, so I might just call up the funeral home and make arraignments on that day." do we say...well I have a really horrific cold, and that can only mean the end for me. so i know i will die on the december 30th. of course not! heck, even when someone unfortunately decides to take their own lives, although they have set up a date for which to engage in such a act, they could still survive a suicide attempt. The point is, we all know the hoax is going on, just like we realize death is going to happen to all of us. You, me, and everybody on this earth who currently exists will eventually descend into obscurity, and will bathing in mother nature's aesthetic beauty. But do we really expect a general date to die? do we really look into every detail that intricately...and have this mentality to mark down possible dates of death? of course not. Exactly like this hoax. WE have absolutely no idea when michael will come back, we KNOW he will, hell it is inevitable...but to be honest, marking down michael's comeback bamsday is almost as silly is looking at a calendar and writing "this is a day where i'll die, im pretty sure." <br /><br />Just remember, if it is intended to happen, if all the remarkable and often perplexing information has been uncovered, and we find it way too suspicious to consider the thought that he might be no longer with us, then YOU know as well as I do that he is very much alive. and if you expect or feel like the his hoax is coming to an end, beLIEve it. and just like death, we might have a general idea of when our death could be...but lets just focus on the certainties. trust your gut, while using your intellect to decipher what is appropriate for this hoax. Don't let your desire of wanting him to come back overlook the actual date of his bamsday. Time at this point isn't flexible as bec pointed out, and we are expecting him to come back any day now, but he doesn't have to come back on the date we wish to presume, and he won't. he'll come back when everybody has their eye closed.
<br />Yeah except all the preponderance on "Time". Time is a common theme throughout the hoax and consider the repeated and final line in Speed Demon remix "I've got to be on Time". If you have to be on time the deadline is not flexible.<br />
<br /><br />So why those hundreds of clues/hints about Dec 21st and 25, which has the purpose been? why so many family tweets about Christmas? about the beginning? This is crazy, really.<br />
<br /><br /><br />Don't let your desire of wanting him to come back overlook the actual date of his bamsday. Time at this point isn't flexible as bec pointed out, and we are expecting him to come back any day now, but he doesn't have to come back on the date we wish to presume, and he won't. he'll come back when everybody has their eye closed.<br />
<br /><br />Words of wisdom . :beerchug: <br /><br />I remember agreeing with someone in here who said that a predictable Bam is not a Bam at all ! <br /><br />
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