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  • I'm so confused , I hear the two versions !..  :WTF:  <br />I have the impression that the original version is maybe  more clear for hear "  What about death again " ..5.58 --->6.03 mins <br /> />Maybe they are trying to create doubt on this version? I don't know..<br />
  • mindseyemindseye Posts: 980
    On the original, I can also hear that line ...sounds like "what about everything" at 5:56, then again at 5:58 but almost sounds like "what if I live again"....<br /><br />
  • JosJos Posts: 360
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    <br />Sorry, sweet, I hear the original lyrics, i.e. 'what about death again?'<br />
    <br /><br />Yep, me 2. Sorry..
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    <br />I guess these are Cirque dancers?  Doing MJ's peace sign, pout, and wearing his smooth criminal hat.  The second pic, is the guy doing a 'focus' or is he going to swing his hand down to do a crotch grab?  :icon_lol:<br /><br />377619_10151459649641473_225697571_n.jpg<br />555817_10151459653791473_442929732_n.jpg<br /><br />This quote of MJ's is curious to me.<br /><br />10917_10151452697586473_1057114137_n.jpg<br /><br />MJ and TS/Front have/has often said that MJ will rewrite history books, and that much of history was a lie. Front emphasized 'the momment of now' with his clock drawing.  "What's going to happen in the future that could affect what has happened in the past?"  'Affect' means to change.  How can the past be changed by anything now, future or ever?  Is there something mysteriously powerful in this statement, or is it just a non-sensical brain teaser?  It reminds me of the movie 'Back to the future' parts 1-3, where Marty McFly goes to the past and future to change negative things in the present.  So could something MJ does in the future somehow supernaturally change something in the past (tear in the fabric of time), which would make our present suddenly different, but we wouldn't be aware of it (wiped from our memories).  Remember Men in Black--Back in Time, last year?  Any philosophical thoughts on that MJ quote?<br />
    <br /><br />off topic but : that little girl in the bottom left hand corner makes me think of young jermaine  lol
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
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    <br />I'm so confused , I hear the two versions !..  :WTF:  <br /><br />
    <br />Sweet, that's me too. I hear both ways the same.<br /><br />Gwynned<br />
    Thanks!  that means a lot in this rather lonely place.
    <br />I know eh? But we still have each other; so hang in there!<br /> :bearhug:
  • diggyondiggyon Posts: 1,376
    sweet is somehow right. The lyrics can be heard both ways, depending on what you believe. This reminds me of the cloud that resembled MJ for those who think that MJ died, while believers saw it as a normal cloud!!
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    <br />sweet is somehow right. The lyrics can be heard both ways, depending on what you believe. This reminds me of the cloud that resembled MJ for those who think that MJ died, while believers saw it as a normal cloud!!<br />
    <br /><br />Agree with you wholeheartedly! I think believers want to hear 'What if I live again'<br /><br />Although I believe he is alive, I don't hear two versions.<br /><br />But sound is so subjective huh?
  • AdiAdi Posts: 1,834
    Check out the picture posted today on the MJ Facebook account..........is that bird behind him a Phoenix ?  :icon_e_ugeek:  :icon_albino:<br /><br />
    Flashback: The Village Voice profiled Michael in 1982, and this is the picture that accompanied the article.
    <br /><br />mjfbook.jpg
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    <br /><br />I'd say so Adi.  That bird certainly looks Phoenix-y.
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    Love it...thanks Adi : ) <br />
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    This pic has a lot to say; quite intriguing/positive/hoaxy I'd say!!<br /><br />
    mjscan-vincealetti.jpg<br /><br />E.T as Mr. Entertainment<br />'Michael Jackson: intense fame, dreams of flying, and a paranoid undertow'<br />By Vince Aletti<br />Dec. 14, 1982<br />Michael Jackson, who has been "touring, singing, dancing" since the age of five told Interview recently that he had only vague memories of growing up in Gary, Indiana: "little things like the corner store or certain people in the neighborhood. The high school behind us always had a big band with trumpets and trombones and drums coming down the street--I used to love that--like a parade. That's all I remember." When Andy Warhol asked him if he ever thought he'd grow up to be a singer, Michael said, "I don't ever remember not singing, so I never dreamed of singing." Instead, Michael says in this month's Ebony, he dreamed of flying, "and I still dream about it all the time." Not flying in a plane, of course, but flying like Superman or, more to the point, like E.T., who holds Jackson in a creaturely embrace on Ebony's cover. This tantalizing dream is one of the reasons Michael agreed to narrate the E.T. "storybook album," he says--that and his feeling that E.T.'s "story is the story of my life in many ways." Not many profound ways, it turns out. But he seems to be getting at something when, at the top of his list, he puts being in a "strange place" and wanting to be "accepted."<br /><br />Maybe this remark is just another bit of showbiz chat, but if Michael Jackson really sees himself as a stranger in a strange land, I suspect it's only because he's both running away from and constantly reinventing "home." His past is not Gary, Indiana, faded now to a few storybook images--the corner store, the parade--but the cool march of song titles, chart positions, and awards across the pages of his record company bio. Intensely famous since the age of 11, Michael, now 24, grew up like a forced plant in the hothouse of celebrity, at once overprotected and overexposed. He emerged with a bruised, hard-won innocence--part artifice, part armor, part dreamy escapism. No wonder he aches to fly. It's hard to tell how much of Michael's vulnerability and naiveté is genuine and how much a mask; clearly there's a savvy toughness just below this tender surface and a ferocious drive for accomplishment that is almost second nature. Still, the real person is especially elusive here. Questioned by Interview on his impulse to "act a lot in everyday life," Michael says, "It's escape. It's fun," and suggests that it's not acting when "you really believe it," it's almost a matter of faith. What he loves to do, he says, is "totally forget" and become another person. Will the real Michael Jackson please stand up? Of course, one wonders just what Interview and Michael know about "everyday life;" perhaps more than they care to. But pop society--particularly the rarefied sort that Jackson has traveled in for the past few years--provides the perfect atmosphere in which to "totally forget." Two phrases cropped up repeatedly in Michael's Interview interview: "It's magic," and "It's unreal," he kept saying. He wasn't talking about what it's like to be Michael Jackson, but he might as well have been.<br /><br />He might also have been describing his new album, Thriller, as stunning and satisfying a piece of showbiz escapism as anyone has turned out in years. Don't get me wrong--this is no retreat to spunsugar sentiment and jerky romance. Michael's escapism is more aggressive and muscular, even in the ballads--he's closer to Speilberg than Disney, calculated and relentlessly refined but driven by a brilliant obsessiveness. There's something so warm, so generous about Michael's compulsion to entertain here; it's passionate, pushed to the limit, wonderfully seductive, even at its most showoffy. (This impulse is not quite so convincing on the E.T. album, where Jackson is frighteningly hammy on the narrative and a touch too tremulous on the song.) In the absence of personal revelation and soul-searching, Michael's giving-it-all intensity is the emotional core of Thriller, but it burns so brightly you never feel deprived.<br /><br />For those who want to dig deeper, there's a decidedly paranoid undertow to three of Jackson's songs ("Beat It," "Billie Jean," and "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"--all his own compositions) that gives the album an unexpected tension, a provocative hint of darkness below the glittering surface. The darkest, "Beat It," is a deliciously ominous funkrocker that features a screaming guitar solo by Eddie Van Halen and deep, echoing bass. In a series of tight, clipped verses, Michael tries to convince someone (himself?) to walk away from a fight--"just beat it"--instead of trying to be bad. "Don't wanna see no blood," Jackson sings, but the music promises mayhem and even the frantic repetition of Michael's advice seems to make the clash more inevitable, maybe secretly desired. "Billie Jean," which follows, shares some of this tension with its brittle, anxious delivery and jumpy pace. Defending himself in a paternity suit, Michael compresses anger and hurt into his singing, then fills the track with furious violin exclamations, chattering guitar, the steady whisper of a hi-hat, and a complex welter of backing voices: a gorgeous paranoid landscape.<br /><br />Without totally abandoning the jittery, taut atmosphere of these songs, Jackson eases up and floods his fearful landscape with light in "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'," the album's steamiest dance cut. But if the track is almost celebratory in its exuberance, the lyrics--a suggestive tumble of lines that both hit and miss--bring that nagging undercurrent of anxiety to the surface again. The subject is gossip--"talkin', squealin', lyin'"--with Michael and his "baby" caught in the razor-tongued crossfire, "stuck in the middle/and the pain is thunder." Michael realizes he's a "vegetable," a whole "buffet," to be devoured at will by a voracious public, but there's little trace of bitterness in his singing here, and he bites into each line with a yelping zest. In the end, paranoia is dispelled and sent spinning in a suddenly anthemic final verse. "I know I am someone/And let the truth unfurl/No one can hurt you now," Michael sings before the song slips into an inspired non sequitur of joyous chanting copped--smart move--from "Soul Makossa:" the spirit triumphant. <br /><br />The rest of Thriller feeds off and plays off the wired heat of these cuts--the creamy love songs ("Baby Be Mine," "The Lady in My Life"); a chugging soft-core funk number ("P.Y.T. [Pretty Young Thing]"); a hushed, delicately shaded gem called "Human Nature;" even the insinuating showbiz pop of "The Girl Is Mine," just-us-superstars smarminess and all. After "Beat It," "Billie Jean," and "Startin' Somethin'"--the three cuts on which Jackson shares production with Quincy Jones--these other songs are thrown into high relief, radiant, flawlessly polished, considerably more splendid by contrast. Only Rod Temperton's title cut returns to the theme of paranoia, this time seen through a funhouse mirror, exaggerated and spoofed with a chilling list of horrific images that turn out to be safely confined to a TV screen. "Thriller" provides the bridge between the album's dark and light tracks, striking a neat, witty balance. Jackson clearly enjoys this juicy entertainment, and Jones gets to toss subtlety--but not style--aside with a scattering of cliché horror sound effects in the dense, loping track and a marvelously silly Vincent Price rap at the end.<br /><br />Jackson and Jones combine so easily on Thriller that the material, no matter how elaborately constructed, feels un-pressured, effortless. There's a harmony to this collaboration that blurs the distinction between producer and produced, allowing for something richer, more assured, and infinitely more relaxed than is usual in these high-powered talent meets. Here, Quincy gracefully opens the door and the real Michael Jackson steps through: Mr. Entertainment. Obviously, Michael's been honing his art along with his ambition and the result is remarkably sharp, intensely focused--not quite second nature, but getting there. On Thriller, as on the earlier Jacksons song "Heartbreak Hotel," Michael's begun to part the shimmering curtain of his innocence--(it's magic, it's unreal)--to glimpse darker, deeper things. Once that curtain is ripped down, the view could be astonishing.
    <br />http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2009/06/from_the_voice_1.php
  • shortyshorty Posts: 211
    <br />I love this paragraph.....<br />Once that curtain is ripped down, the view could be astonishing....<br />Yes....I believe....
  • shortyshorty Posts: 211
    I love ET `cos it reminds me of me.<br />Someone from another world<br />coming down and you becoming<br />friends with them,<br />and this person is, like, 800 years old<br />and he`s filling you with all kinds of<br />wisdom and he can teach to fly.<br />That whole fantasy thing wich i think<br />is great. I mean, who don`t<br />wanna fly ?<br /><br />Michael Jackson
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    <br />[size=18pt] I love this paragraph.....<br />Once that curtain is ripped down, the view could be astonishing...[/size].<br />Yes....I believe....<br />
    <br /><br />yeah that is almost scary ! ( imagine if you can this man's capacity to love as a capacity to hate)  :icon_eek:<br /><br />or his naivety as deception<br /><br />but hopefully by cunning as a snake and harmless as a dove  :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />
  • I also find this sentence very interesting:<br /><br /> Questioned by Interview on his impulse to "act a lot in everyday life," Michael says, "It's escape. It's fun," and suggests that it's not acting when "you really believe it," it's almost a matter of faith. What he loves to do, he says, is "totally forget" and become another person<br /><br />Thanks Adi & MJonmind for posting this interview and the picture.  I hadn't read the interview or seen this picture before.<br /><br />
  • AdiAdi Posts: 1,834
    @Faithad777 you are welcome  :icon_e_biggrin:<br /><br />Thanks for posting the article MJonmind - I went searching for it last night - it's a great article!<br /><br />I love the picture of the Phoenix-y type of bird behind MJ.
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    <br />I also find this sentence very interesting:<br /><br /> Questioned by Interview on his impulse to "act a lot in everyday life," Michael says, "It's escape. It's fun," and suggests that it's not acting when "you really believe it," it's almost a matter of faith. What he loves to do, he says, is "totally forget" and become another person<br /><br />Thanks Adi & MJonmind for posting this interview and the picture.  I hadn't read the interview or seen this picture before.<br />
    <br /><br />yep that is pretty interesting.  remember this is something that was hinted at in the bashir thing.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    It doesn't look like a Phoenix to me, more like a vulture.
  • AdiAdi Posts: 1,834
    lol @Gina....... my alternative to a Phoenix was an Eagle, not a Vulture.
  • It is a Phoenix, look at these Phoenix pics and compare:<br /><br />phoenix.jpg<br /><br />phoenix3.jpg<br /><br />phoenix.gif
  • MJonmindMJonmind Posts: 7,290
    Gina, I've missed you! Good to hear from you!<br /><br />I'm thinking the Phoenix predicts MJ future 'death' and rising from the ashes. Either it shows the early start of the hoax plans, or Illuminati/TPTB knew his destiny way back then and are orchestrating it now.  Over ALL plans is God's plan.<br /><br />The 3 stars on his lapel pin remind me of his song Another Day.<br />"My life, has taken me beyond the planets and the STARS, and you're the only one who could take me this far..."
  • santiagosantiago Posts: 28
    The Official FB page says: "Deep Dive: Need a little vacation? Take a brain break with “Fly Away""<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151632357336473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1<br /><br />made me smile<br />
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    <br />The Official FB page says: "Deep Dive: Need a little vacation? Take a brain break with “Fly Away""<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151632357336473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1<br /><br />made me smile<br />
    <br /><br />me too
  • blankieblankie Posts: 2,350
    on 1369175061:
    <br />
    on 1369173393:
    <br />The Official FB page says: "Deep Dive: Need a little vacation? Take a brain break with “Fly Away""<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151632357336473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1<br /><br />made me smile<br />
    <br /><br />me too<br />
    <br /><br /><br />                                  E_07FL%7E1.GIF
  • SimPattyKSimPattyK Posts: 4,281
    @MJHoaxEvidence 27 Jun<br /><br />MJHoaxEvidence posted a NEW VIDEO: MJ is ALIVE! Twitter sign from @michaeljackson … Love you MJ!-From your beLIEvers<br /><br />
    <br /><br /><br />My replies to certain YouTube comments on this video^^ SMH!!  :icon_e_confused: :icon_rolleyes: <br /> --> http://tl.gd/n_1rl37an
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