Of course, it's not like MJ ever put the license to much use -- he was pretty <br />much exclusively chauffeured around, especially in the later years of his life.
<br />Oh no, he's been driving alright, hoax vehicle--hoax train!<br /><br />
<br />I call fake.....CA driver's licenses have the picture on the left, not right. <br /><br />Just sayin'......Hello Harvey...Happy "Holidaze" :fresse:<br /><br />Blessings Always<br />
<br />This doesn't look like it is supposed to be a picture of his actual driver's license. This is what a record from the CA DMV looks like.<br /><br />So was this the picture on the license that they supposedly ID'ed the body from at UCLA??<br />
<br /><br />From TMZ's article.....<br />".....last driver's license photo...."<br /><br />Yes, yes, yes...of course *hits forehead* TMZ said right here, the last "photo"....so any and all the other information they posted is anything they wanted to say.....I did notice all those 7's as well, lol.......lots of number play......Michael "Joe" etc......<br />good catch StrangerinCA .....thanks!!!! <br />Indeed, MJonmind.......he's been driving alright, lol........driving all us crazy!!! (someone que Ozzy's Crazy Train) :icon_lol: <br /><br />Blessings<br /><br />PS> I don't know what UCLA used...I had thought it was the older one, but who knows........
<br />[size=18pt]MICHAEL JACKSON'S<br />DRIVER'S LICENSE<br />Stone-Faced Stare[/size]<br /><br />12/24/2012 1:00 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF<br /><br /><br /><br />TMZ has obtained the last driver's license photo Michael Jackson ever took-- <br />a big change from the singer's cheery license photo from the 1980s.<br /><br />The latest photo was taken in 2005 -- four years before the King of Pop's <br />untimely death -- and you can tell from the harrowing image ... MJ had become <br />a tortured soul.<br /><br /><br /><br />An image of MJ's 1980s driver's license was released by the FBI shortly after <br />Michael died -- as part of the agency's massive file on the singer. The Bureau <br />compiled the dossier during its investigation into child sex allegations involving <br />the singer back in the 90s.<br /><br /><br /><br />As you can see, Michael was a much different person back then -- smiling <br />brightly for his photo at the DMV.<br /><br />Of course, it's not like MJ ever put the license to much use -- he was pretty <br />much exclusively chauffeured around, especially in the later years of his life.<br /><br />Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/24/michael-jackson-drivers-license/#ixzz2FxV42iDk<br />
<br /><br /><br />Harvey/TMZ out of its mind completely. That is not a US/CA DL, never was. You, STONED freak.
<br />Bogus.<br /><br />This is a real driver's license from 2005:<br /><br /><br />
California <br /> <br />Policy: “A license shall bear a full face engraved picture or photograph of the licensee…. The DMV in the state <br />of California wants to be sensitive to the needs of all applicants and does allow headgear to be worn because of <br />religious beliefs provided it does not obscure the applicant’s facial features. However, it may be necessary to <br />ask the licensee to push back the headgear to eliminate dark shadows on his/her face. <br />No written statement from the applicant is necessary regarding the wearing of the headgear. <br />The applicant’s verbal statement is sufficient.” <br /> <br />Source: California Vehicle Code, Sections 12800-5 and 13005.
<br />http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/documents/LWVJ.pdf<br /><br />The message is not about the license. We know who the driver is. Merry Christmas, MJ!<br /><br />Add: <br />Everybody here, may you have a blessed Christmas season and don't feel disappointed not matter what happens.<br />Enjoy your time, family & friends and a brand new start every day. :icon_e_biggrin:<br />
It's not just the DL that is fake, the picture isn't Michael either. Below allegedly both from 2005. That is not the same person. Eyes are totally different (Michael's eyes are curved, smaller), nose is different, mouth is different and Michael's chin is longer and has a cleft. Where did the cleft go on the dude on the left? Unless someone thinks it's not Michael on the right...<br /><br />
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
BTW: Michael's driving skills are shit, allegedly. :thjajaja121:
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
I'm not sure I believe what we've been told about MJ's driving skills. Frank Cascio in his book talks about MJ and himself going up the the tracks into the hills around Neverland on dirt bikes for recreation. It takes quite some skill to stay upright on trail bikes going off road. So I think that Michael would have no difficulty driving a car on a proper road if we know he has been riding bikes since he was just a little fella [ heard the last part about riding since childhood on David Gest's doco] <br />Anyhow...that's my reasoning about it. <br />
<br />[size=18pt]MICHAEL JACKSON'S<br />DRIVER'S LICENSE<br />Stone-Faced Stare[/size]<br /><br />12/24/2012 1:00 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF<br /><br /><br /><br />TMZ has obtained the last driver's license photo Michael Jackson ever took-- <br />a big change from the singer's cheery license photo from the 1980s.<br /><br />The latest photo was taken in 2005 -- four years before the King of Pop's <br />untimely death -- and you can tell from the harrowing image ... MJ had become <br />a tortured soul.<br /><br /><br /><br />An image of MJ's 1980s driver's license was released by the FBI shortly after <br />Michael died -- as part of the agency's massive file on the singer. The Bureau <br />compiled the dossier during its investigation into child sex allegations involving <br />the singer back in the 90s.<br /><br /><br /><br />As you can see, Michael was a much different person back then -- smiling <br />brightly for his photo at the DMV.<br /><br />Of course, it's not like MJ ever put the license to much use -- he was pretty <br />much exclusively chauffeured around, especially in the later years of his life.<br /><br />Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/24/michael-jackson-drivers-license/#ixzz2FxV42iDk<br />
<br /><br /><br />Harvey/TMZ out of its mind completely. That is not a US/CA DL, never was. You, STONED freak.<br />
<br /><br />Wait a minute, I think I got it. "Michael Jackson" on the false DL that expires in 2010 died on 06/25. Was this DL in hospice patient's pocket in his way to UCLA for identification? Of course, later on, regardless of the name on DL, all other death related documents go by Michael Joseph Jackson.
wasn't there a photo that ben did of a guy getting into a car in his pj's ? this looks like that person to me. by the way there is no signature on the 2005 license.<br />
Oh my gosh - is there ever a time where we will see pictures from the same era and all agree that it is or isn't Michael? LOL - I, for one, haven't believe for years that we've seen the real Michael every single time and these two pictures are no different. The only other explanation is that Michael deliberately changes his appearance.<br /><br />I don't know about the one in the DL photo but he doesn't look tortured, he looks very angry to me. And, if this picture was taken about a month after the trial I can understand why. However, why would he need a DL if he was in the process of leaving the country? Was he still in LA in July 2005 or had he already left the country? All I could find was that his father was having a birthday bash in Berlin and MJ was supposed to appear.<br /><br />I think there is deeper meaning as is mentioned by others above. MJ and hoax fam - Merry Christmas!<br /><br />Blessings<br /><br />
Just read that Spike Lee has posted two pics on his instagram of MJ from TDRCAU. Same stony faced look.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />sheltonjlee This is Micael Jackson's ID Badge From The "THEY DON'T REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT US" SHORT FIlM 6h<br /><br />sheltonjlee Michael Jackson's ID Badge from his THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US Short Film. I pulled this out of my archives.SHAMON. 5h<br />
RK - the eyes in TDRCAU seem to match (to me) the one in the fake DL. Does the timing seems too coincidental for Spike to post those pictures? It does to me.<br /><br />Blessings
<br />It's not just the DL that is fake, the picture isn't Michael either. Below allegedly both from 2005. That is not the same person. Eyes are totally different (Michael's eyes are curved, smaller), nose is different, mouth is different and Michael's chin is longer and has a cleft. Where did the cleft go on the dude on the left? Unless someone thinks it's not Michael on the right...<br /><br /><br />
<br />Yea that was my first thought when I saw the picture was that it wasn't Michael circa 2005. It looked more like it was maybe around 2001-ish to me, if its even him at all.
So what, does Harvey have people on the inside at DMV now? :suspect:<br /><br />Most of you won't remember this (or may not know about it), but a young actress named Rebecca Schaeffer was killed many years ago (July 18, 1989) because a stalker was able to get her personal information through DMV. Since then, the privacy laws here in California on releasing such information have gotten much stricter. [California laws regarding the release of personal information through the DMV were drastically changed. The Driver's Privacy Protection Act was enacted in 1994]<br /><br /><br /><br />This is pulled from the actual California DMV site :<br /><br />[Confidential information includes, but may not be limited to, an individual's home address (California Vehicle Code Section 1808.21), home telephone number (Government Code Section 6254.3), physical/mental information (California Vehicle Code Section 1808.5), social security number (California Vehicle Code Section 1653.5), and photograph (California Vehicle Code Sections 12800.5 and 13005.5). Confidential home addresses will only be released when the department determines the release is necessary to complete a DMV transaction. Other requests for any confidential information must include a state or federal statute that authorizes or requires the department to release such information.<br /><br />Information regarding any motor vehicle liability insurance policy or surety bond provided to the department is confidential and shall not be disclosed to any person, except to the following:<br /><br />(a) A court of competent jurisdiction.<br /><br />b) A law enforcement or other governmental agency.<br /><br />(c) An insurance company or its assigns to verify a record the company or its assigns previously submitted to the department.<br /><br />(d) A person whose vehicle or property has been involved in an accident reported to the department, or who suffered bodily injury or death in an accident reported to the department under Chapter 1 (commending with Section 16000) of Division 7 (Financial Responsibility Laws), or the person's authorized representative, employer, parent, or legal guardian.<br /><br />The Department may further restrict the release of any information from its files if it determines that, on the facts of the particular case, the public interest served by not disclosing the record clearly outweighs the public interest served by disclosure of the record. ]<br /><br /><br /><br />I call foul/fake....what are you up to Harvey? :icon_e_confused:<br /><br /><br />
<br /><br /><br />Re the 2005 licence pic, in my experience for quite some time now, they do not want you to smile in any official document pics, such as licence and passports.<br /><br />
<br /><br />Exactly... they used to let people smile in identification photos, but in recent years they do not allow smiling for some reason.
<br /><br /><br />Re the 2005 licence pic, in my experience for quite some time now, they do not want you to smile in any official document pics, such as licence and passports.<br /><br />
<br /><br />Exactly... they used to let people smile in identification photos, but in recent years they do not allow smiling for some reason.<br />
<br /><br />Because it works better for facial recognition technology.
<br />I'm thinking the so-called Drivers 2005 is more like from the nineties. On the right is MJ from the time of Oprah's interview in 93.<br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />His face looks aged a bit in the DL picture. Also his eyebrows are thicker in the DL picture. Also he doesn't have the greased down baby hairs that were oh so popular in the 90s (lol). Plus if it were 90s he would definitely be smiling. So I think not, but that just my opinion.
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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.""For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."