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  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
    Ooh...I found it......this is only part of a really long post. I don't think it was a screenshot...someone posted it earlier in this thread. Here is the part that talks about the initials T-M being the "key".<br /><br />
    Throughout the decades of the modern tIMEs we live, many Great figures have suffered untIMEly demises. Deep reflection of these occurrences will or should give you great pause. The easiest approach up until about 20 years ago was always by the bullet. What changed the trend? Well, along came awareness, suspicion, and non-acceptance of "stories" that carry potholes in logic. Thus, it demanded a necessity for more elaborate plans of execution that are now used as a means of thwarting the full truth. This process had to be in magnification ten fold in order to end the physical existence of the most famous person walking this Earth. Many OTHER attempts had failed, even though they left enormous wounds. You see, evil always goes for the jugular by attacking a person's greatest strength. Michael Jackson's greatest strength was pure love. The antagonist of such a principle is hate. So they used that pure love and coupled it with another of his strengths towards healing and caring for sick children to formulate perhaps the most wickedly contrived fiction in history. The goal was to create the most egregious of perceptions and marvel with pleasure and amusement at its historically noted difficulty to disprove. But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individualor even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!
    <br /><br />Do you think he's talking about Tom Mesereau? Tom wasn't really "behind the scenes" though? Was he? He seemed to be right out front IMO. Could Tommy Mottola  have "righted the wrong" "behind the scenes"? Didn't MJ believe that Tommy Mottola was behind the allegations of the 2005 trial? Maybe I am way off.....any thoughts?
    <br /><br />Difficult to say what T-M could be or stand for, and especially this part is the one I hardly understand this is eloquent english...cryptic to me.<br /><br />Who is "the subject of the first narrative"? Michael?<br />Who is "that individual"? <br /><br />Or maybe that it is just in reference of "Trust ME" because the initials are in parenthesis, so trusting back (Michael?) is the key? IDK. I really love this post by the way, very insightful and well written, way to go back!
  • AFTER READ ALL THE THREAD ABOUT BACK AND ALL THE SCREENSHOTS OF THE OTHER FORUM I MUST SAY... I THINK IS MJ, REALLY... THE WAY HE PUT HIS THOUGHTS, THE WAY HE WRITE (WITH THE CAPS AND ALL THAT, EVEN ON THE COPUTER, LOL!) I´M SAD I DIDN´T FOUND HIM ON THAT SITE... <!-- s:cry: -->:cry:<!-- s:cry: -->

    ...He may be one of us now, watchin' us and getting through all types of <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:evil: -->:evil:<!-- s:evil: --> <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> and you may meet him here! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    With L.O.V.E
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    Ooh...I found it......this is only part of a really long post. I don't think it was a screenshot...someone posted it earlier in this thread. Here is the part that talks about the initials T-M being the "key".
    Throughout the decades of the modern tIMEs we live, many Great figures have suffered untIMEly demises. Deep reflection of these occurrences will or should give you great pause. The easiest approach up until about 20 years ago was always by the bullet. What changed the trend? Well, along came awareness, suspicion, and non-acceptance of "stories" that carry potholes in logic. Thus, it demanded a necessity for more elaborate plans of execution that are now used as a means of thwarting the full truth. This process had to be in magnification ten fold in order to end the physical existence of the most famous person walking this Earth. Many OTHER attempts had failed, even though they left enormous wounds. You see, evil always goes for the jugular by attacking a person's greatest strength. Michael Jackson's greatest strength was pure love. The antagonist of such a principle is hate. So they used that pure love and coupled it with another of his strengths towards healing and caring for sick children to formulate perhaps the most wickedly contrived fiction in history. The goal was to create the most egregious of perceptions and marvel with pleasure and amusement at its historically noted difficulty to disprove. But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!

    Do you think he's talking about Tom Mesereau? Tom wasn't really "behind the scenes" though? Was he? He seemed to be right out front IMO. Could Tommy Mottola have "righted the wrong" "behind the scenes"? Didn't MJ believe that Tommy Mottola was behind the allegations of the 2005 trial? Maybe I am way off.....any thoughts?

    ME always in caps = tiMEs - untlMEly -Trust ME
    T - M = Trust Me
    Trust in Him is our Key???
  • I love these posts about "BACK!" Had to be Michael or someone who is and was definitely in the know! As far as the language in some of the posts, don't forget that Gotham Chopra said on June 25, 2010, while giving his interview about Michael that "The Man could curse like a sailor!" <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> I know we all want to think he is perfect, but hey! I can see Mike gettin' down and dirty when pissed! Don't forget the video footage we have all seen where he says to tell Gloria Allred to "go to hell!" <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> And all the "flippin the bird" footage we've seen, too!

    We love you, No More Mr. Nice Guy! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    No More Mr. Nice Guy! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> threatened came to my mind....
  • Back does not very often refer to specific songs in his posts but Unbreakable is referred to at least 4 times with 2 of the posts giving very clear messages:

    a. Key message on a post from 4/6/2007:
    They have tried many times to get him and failed... "And you wonder about the thought process behind album titles... and song concepts.
    UnBrEaKaBle!"
    http://img203.imageshack.us/i/unbreakable04062007.png/

    b. Key message on a post from 14/03/2008
    <Unbreakable>
    Remember it
    Listen to it!
    Keep Watchin'

    http://img21.imageshack.us/i/14032009unbreakable.png/

    My take on this, is that this song more than any others describes the prime reason for him faking his death and reveal the hoax itself, I am sure many of you know what I mean but here are the lyrics below... I think it is just self explanatory... Out of all of MJ song why would Back picks this one? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
    Now I'm just wondering why you think
    That you can get to me with anything
    Seems like you'd know by now
    When and how I get down
    And with all that I've been through,
    I'm still around


    Don't you ever make no mistake
    Baby I've got what it takes
    And there's no way you'll ever get to me
    Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
    'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby

    [CHORUS]
    You can't believe it, you can't conceive it
    And you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable
    And I know you hate it, and you can't take it
    You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable

    Now you can't stop me even thought you think
    That if you block me, you've done your thing
    And when you bury me underneath all your pain
    I´m steady laughin’, while surfacing


    Don't you ever make no mistake
    Baby I've got what it takes
    And there's no way you'll ever get to me
    Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
    'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby

    [CHORUS 2x]

    You can try to stop me, but it wont do a thing
    No matter what you do, I'm still gonna be here
    Through all your lies and silly games
    I'm a still remain the same, I'm unbreakable

    There is a lot in the Back's posts on the Vendetta that went against Michael and his/Michael feelings about it, this deserves a long post in its own right... I really feel for him when I am reading it, and want to put my soldier hat on and report for duty right now ...

    With L.O.V.E
  • It is said that Michael loved to surf the net. I would not at all be surprised if he lurked as a guest in here from time to time. Good stuff <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    Still reading through this. It's fascinating <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> to say the least.
  • anewfananewfan Posts: 1,125
    Ooh...I found it......this is only part of a really long post. I don't think it was a screenshot...someone posted it earlier in this thread. Here is the part that talks about the initials T-M being the "key".
    Throughout the decades of the modern tIMEs we live, many Great figures have suffered untIMEly demises. Deep reflection of these occurrences will or should give you great pause. The easiest approach up until about 20 years ago was always by the bullet. What changed the trend? Well, along came awareness, suspicion, and non-acceptance of "stories" that carry potholes in logic. Thus, it demanded a necessity for more elaborate plans of execution that are now used as a means of thwarting the full truth. This process had to be in magnification ten fold in order to end the physical existence of the most famous person walking this Earth. Many OTHER attempts had failed, even though they left enormous wounds. You see, evil always goes for the jugular by attacking a person's greatest strength. Michael Jackson's greatest strength was pure love. The antagonist of such a principle is hate. So they used that pure love and coupled it with another of his strengths towards healing and caring for sick children to formulate perhaps the most wickedly contrived fiction in history. The goal was to create the most egregious of perceptions and marvel with pleasure and amusement at its historically noted difficulty to disprove. But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!

    Do you think he's talking about Tom Mesereau? Tom wasn't really "behind the scenes" though? Was he? He seemed to be right out front IMO. Could Tommy Mottola have "righted the wrong" "behind the scenes"? Didn't MJ believe that Tommy Mottola was behind the allegations of the 2005 trial? Maybe I am way off.....any thoughts?

    ME always in caps = tiMEs - untlMEly -Trust ME
    T - M = Trust Me
    Trust in Him is our Key???


    Not only is ME in caps, but I is in caps right alongside it.....good catch!
  • anewfananewfan Posts: 1,125
    Arms, wrist and feet. Bludgeoned through the veins. <br />Arms, wrist and feet, Poisoned through the veins. <br />Two different Kings, with different Reigns.<br />And The End result shall be the same.<br /><br />JUSTICE........For it is already written!<br /><br />And shall be illUMINATED! (E. Chandler— I hope you left proper notice repenting---the inferno awaits and you shall become a believer in what you didn’t before. HELL is your EQUALIZER. You’ve earned it!
    <br /><br /><br />EDIT: JUSTICE....For it is already written!! <br /><br />Do you think this means that the "script" for this whole hoax has been written and by it being iLLUMINATED...they mean shown as a movie or on the news?
  • anewfananewfan Posts: 1,125
    Difficult to say what T-M could be or stand for, and especially this part is the one I hardly understand this is eloquent english...cryptic to me.

    Who is "the subject of the first narrative"? Michael?
    Who is "that individual"?

    Or maybe that it is just in reference of "Trust ME" because the initials are in parenthesis, so trusting back (Michael?) is the key? IDK. I really love this post by the way, very insightful and well written, way to go back!

    @Sarahli.....Trust Me makes sense in referring to T-M.....his writing is so unique and complex...I find myself having to study his posts sentence by sentence just to comprehend what he may (or may not) mean by it.
  • Ok you guys are gonna laugh.

    First of all, I just found the "new posts" button. LOL I was wondering how people were finding the time to go through every section on here to see what posts were new! LOL

    Secondly, because of this I just found this thread about 1 hour ago! LOL

    This is absolutely blowing my mind! BACK said so many things that have proven to be true. Just as TS has said things that have validity. It these things that I see as beyond mere coincidence and makes me wonder.... who's lovin you.. oh sorry those songs just pop into my head at the most inconvenient times! <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> Seriously though re: BACK I have to ask... Who is it? Is it a friend of mine... who is it? Is it my brother! Dang... sorry.

    I can totally see BACK being MJ and I can totally see MJ talking like back does.

    *sigh* am I just looking for something new to believe in because TS has gone MIA? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
  • *sigh* am I just looking for something new to believe in because TS has gone MIA? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    I think you missed the new redirect: <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14000<!-- l -->
  • *sigh* am I just looking for something new to believe in because TS has gone MIA? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    I think you missed the new redirect: <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=72&t=14000<!-- l -->

    HE'S ALIVE!!!! YEAH!!!! <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • Wow! I'm so glad others are starting to read BACK's post and see what I and others (including the thread starter) have been seeing for months.
    I think TM is Tom Mesereau. I think Jordie Chandler may have told Mesereau the truth. Remember, Jordie did not take the stand in 2005.

    This is the part of the post from BACK.

    But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. (the stain of him harming children) In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes.(did Jordie Chandler tell Tom Mesereau the truth? (That MJ did not touch him and apoligise to MJ?) For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, (interesting word to use,maybe referring to the legal field...ie Mesereau) these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!

    I read BACK's post whenever I need a boost in beLIEving.

    Let's keep this thread going. I love it.
  • @ foreverking: Great insight... What you're saying makes sense! If the "subject of the first narrative" and "that individual" is Jordie Chandler, then he could have been ambivalent about the "open approach" and "legalities" in the sense that he didn't want to come out publicly and say MJ didn't molest him... but as you said, he may have done it behind the scenes, by talking to Mesereau. I read that the prosecution (Sneddon et al.) wanted to get Jordie to testify in 2005, but he preferred to leave the U.S. rather than take the stand (i.e. he wasn't going to incriminate Michael).

    My God, this person (BACK) really is incredibly smart and intriguing! And the fact that he was posting stuff way before 2009 gives me pause... I wouldn't be surprised if it were Michael! The way he writes, with big caps and misspellings but real intelligence, is highly reminiscent of MJ. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
  • anewfananewfan Posts: 1,125
    My God, this person (BACK) really is incredibly smart and intriguing! And the fact that he was posting stuff way before 2009 gives me pause... I wouldn't be surprised if it were Michael! The way he writes, with big caps and misspellings but real intelligence, is highly reminiscent of MJ.


    I think he started posting on that forum back in 2005 if you look at the dates on the screenshots, you can see when he posted them. Many of his predictions were stated years before 2009. Kinda gives you the chills when you read them.
  • Ok you guys are gonna laugh.

    First of all, I just found the "new posts" button. LOL I was wondering how people were finding the time to go through every section on here to see what posts were new! LOL

    Secondly, because of this I just found this thread about 1 hour ago! LOL

    This is absolutely blowing my mind! BACK said so many things that have proven to be true. Just as TS has said things that have validity. It these things that I see as beyond mere coincidence and makes me wonder.... who's lovin you.. oh sorry those songs just pop into my head at the most inconvenient times! <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> Seriously though re: BACK I have to ask... Who is it? Is it a friend of mine... who is it? Is it my brother! Dang... sorry.

    I can totally see BACK being MJ and I can totally see MJ talking like back does.

    *sigh* am I just looking for something new to believe in because TS has gone MIA? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    Girl, I told you about him a little while ago via PM. You were missing out. Better late than never! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • Wow! I'm so glad others are starting to read BACK's post and see what I and others (including the thread starter) have been seeing for months.
    I think TM is Tom Mesereau. I think Jordie Chandler may have told Mesereau the truth. Remember, Jordie did not take the stand in 2005.

    This is the part of the post from BACK.

    But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. (the stain of him harming children) In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes.(did Jordie Chandler tell Tom Mesereau the truth? (That MJ did not touch him and apoligise to MJ?) For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, (interesting word to use,maybe referring to the legal field...ie Mesereau) these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!

    I read BACK's post whenever I need a boost in beLIEving.

    Let's keep this thread going. I love it.

    I think it's him too and it may connect to TS. <!-- l -->viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11621<!-- l -->
  • Ok you guys are gonna laugh.

    First of all, I just found the "new posts" button. LOL I was wondering how people were finding the time to go through every section on here to see what posts were new! LOL

    Secondly, because of this I just found this thread about 1 hour ago! LOL

    This is absolutely blowing my mind! BACK said so many things that have proven to be true. Just as TS has said things that have validity. It these things that I see as beyond mere coincidence and makes me wonder.... who's lovin you.. oh sorry those songs just pop into my head at the most inconvenient times! <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> Seriously though re: BACK I have to ask... Who is it? Is it a friend of mine... who is it? Is it my brother! Dang... sorry.

    I can totally see BACK being MJ and I can totally see MJ talking like back does.

    *sigh* am I just looking for something new to believe in because TS has gone MIA? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->

    Seriously? Dang! My memory! *sigh* Thanks for trying to enlighten me! LOL

    Girl, I told you about him a little while ago via PM. You were missing out. Better late than never! <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    Back does not very often refer to specific songs in his posts but Unbreakable is referred to at least 4 times with 2 of the posts giving very clear messages:

    a. Key message on a post from 4/6/2007:
    They have tried many times to get him and failed... "And you wonder about the thought process behind album titles... and song concepts.
    UnBrEaKaBle!"
    http://img203.imageshack.us/i/unbreakable04062007.png/

    b. Key message on a post from 14/03/2008
    <Unbreakable>
    Remember it
    Listen to it!
    Keep Watchin'

    http://img21.imageshack.us/i/14032009unbreakable.png/

    My take on this, is that this song more than any others describes the prime reason for him faking his death and reveal the hoax itself, I am sure many of you know what I mean but here are the lyrics below... I think it is just self explanatory... Out of all of MJ song why would Back picks this one? <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
    Now I'm just wondering why you think
    That you can get to me with anything
    Seems like you'd know by now
    When and how I get down
    And with all that I've been through,
    I'm still around


    Don't you ever make no mistake
    Baby I've got what it takes
    And there's no way you'll ever get to me
    Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
    'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby

    [CHORUS]
    You can't believe it, you can't conceive it
    And you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable
    And I know you hate it, and you can't take it
    You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable

    Now you can't stop me even thought you think
    That if you block me, you've done your thing
    And when you bury me underneath all your pain
    I´m steady laughin’, while surfacing


    Don't you ever make no mistake
    Baby I've got what it takes
    And there's no way you'll ever get to me
    Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
    'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby

    [CHORUS 2x]

    You can try to stop me, but it wont do a thing
    No matter what you do, I'm still gonna be here
    Through all your lies and silly games
    I'm a still remain the same, I'm unbreakable

    There is a lot in the Back's posts on the Vendetta that went against Michael and his/Michael feelings about it, this deserves a long post in its own right... I really feel for him when I am reading it, and want to put my soldier hat on and report for duty right now ...

    With L.O.V.E

    MJ say in an interview that he loves UNBREAKABLE and that he want Invincible would be called UNBREAKABLE (searching the video on youtube...)
  • curlscurls Posts: 3,111
    I've always thought that one of the reasons 'they' didn't want to promote the Invincible album was that MJ is sounding so confident, mature and in control, that they felt threatened (just as I imagine he intended them to feel). How dare he have the balls to stand up to them like that! Love that man!
  • Back is definitely worth a second look at.
  • Arms, wrist and feet. Bludgeoned through the veins. <br />Arms, wrist and feet, Poisoned through the veins. <br />Two different Kings, with different Reigns.<br />And The End result shall be the same.<br /><br />JUSTICE........For it is already written!<br /><br />And shall be illUMINATED! (E. Chandler— I hope you left proper notice repenting---the inferno awaits and you shall become a believer in what you didn’t before. HELL is your EQUALIZER. You’ve earned it!
    <br /><br /><br />EDIT: JUSTICE....For it is already written!! <br /><br />Do you think this means that the "script" for this whole hoax has been written and by it being iLLUMINATED...they mean shown as a movie or on the news?<br /><br />@anewfan, I do believe that the plans for the hoax are indeed fully in place and being executed. My understanding of illUMINATED is that the truth will be told and those who have started this Vendetta against MJ will find themselves getting their due.(Justice)  Whether there is a script and a planned movie...etc, I do not know. It started to feel very real to me, a real life thriller! Good versus Evil! <br />In one of his post from 09/08/2005 Back says that "The countdown is on until the pandora's box shows them why they should have kept it closed." which re-emphasize the above message. <br /><br />There is still a lot of anger in this note (dated 18 November 2009), look at the reference to E Chandler who died in early November. <br />
    (E. Chandler— I hope you left proper notice repenting---the inferno awaits and you shall become a believer in what you didn’t before. HELL is your EQUALIZER. You’ve earned it!
    <br />And the sentence that follows the one above (in the original post from Back), gives the feeling that there is much more happening.<br />
    “With all the ingredients—is it Simmering---can you smell it—how long before the “pie” is done.” <br /><br />Back also posted 2 lists of named individuals who played a role in MJ lynching (Media or else), I think those lists would be interesting to review in more details versus events that have occurred since the 25th June. Some interesting names there!<br />http://http://img340.imageshack.us/i/trial.jpg/ post 2005 trial list + Note the reference to "Matolla" in the first post<br />http://http://img158.imageshack.us/f/mediafailed.jpg/ last post on 21/08/06<br /><br />With L.O.V.E
  • anewfananewfan Posts: 1,125
    @TheRunningGirl......

    You can definitely feel the hatred towards Mottola in that post. I think that is a great idea to do some research on the names on those lists. I'm not familiar with some of the names. I guess that's homework for the week!! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • With all the 'cooincidences' we've had over the past year or so...what's a few more?

    Date Back joined MJJC:

    30-04-2005 = 7-7

    The number of posts still visible:

    43 = 7

    His total number of posts prior to the deletions:

    489 = 21 = 7 7 7

    Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    And speaking of Back's 'hit list'...gotta love this from him:

    (posted in 2006)

    Riddle me this
    Riddle me that
    Diane's a slut
    And Roger is fat.

    Sneddon is cold
    For lies he told
    And Janut is guilty
    For money she stole

    Nancy is crazy
    Her whining's an act
    The bitch is a moonbat
    And probly on crack.

    The old guard is over
    They've overed their stay
    The fresh blood is ready
    For that crowning new day.

    It's moving like clock work
    Steady ticking and tocking
    Hee hee - Wooooooooooo
    Just Keep Watchin'...........

    <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    With L.O.V.E. always.
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