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  • BeTheChangeBeTheChange Posts: 1,569
    @Front...thanks for the warm wishes, wishing you and yours the same  :icon_razz: Hmmm, 'necessary early'....are you anticipating a communication 'breakdown' or are you heading back to Turtle Island?  :icon_albino:<br /><br />A lot of 'crumbs' Front has shared with us have stuck with me...these two top the list:<br /><br />
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    <br />Now…..lest every single piece of blatant knowledge arising from subtle whispers that have been brought to light in the last 2+ years through blood, sweat & tears--from BOTH sides, I would bet my LIFE on it!--is to be tossed out the window…every distinct fragment of the puzzle…..all SIG_S, which "coincidently" all point in the SAME direction…then there's no logical reason for anyone to give up and/or lose faith. <br />
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    <br />tick-tock, tick-tock……..<br />We must remember tIME is of the essence--- but in THIS case it is also our best friend. A few years may seem like a long time, but it's all relative when you consider the magnitude of the global effects to come for generations after the execution of this meticulously planned feat. Rest ASSURED, we WILL get to the other side of that "Red Sea". <br />
    <br /><br />@Sim...I'm in  :icon_razz:<br /><br />@Everyone...wishing you all a safe and peaceful 12/21/12 <br /><br />With L.O.V.E. always.
  • jonojono Posts: 279
    @ Front<br /><br />Thanks Front! A Merry Christmas and a Happy New your to you and your family from all of us...<br /><br />PS. Thanks for sticking with us...<br /><br /> :bearhug:
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    <br />Happy Holidays to you and your children, Mr Front ! <br /><br />By the way, what about the (necessarily early) thing ?<br />
    <br /><br />he ain't gonna say....  :icon_lol:<br /><br />@Front and @everyone ; Merry Christmas!!<br />
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
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    <br />Wishing everyone a (necessary early) very Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays!<br /><br />:bearhug:<br /><br />Bec, I'll ask Santa to bring you a stronger magnifying glass. <br /><br />search.gif<br /><br />Jowayria, good observation on La Toya's tweets.<br /><br />Adi, I think they're interesting too! :LolLolLolLol:<br /><br />
    If we do our homework, re-read and re-read as in 'hind-sight', which takes a lot of commitment and is no easy task, then we will KNOW that he is telling us as  he says the "words of truth".  But the job of us convincing ourselves has to come from our own selves, not him.  I think he's waiting to see if we can make those connections and then stand with it, which is different than just blind leaps of faith.
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    <br /><br /><br /><br />Merry Christmas Front, necessary early? :suspect:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />"Glory to God in the highest, and peace on earth, and in  the man goodwill."<br /><br />I always liked this :icon_razz:<br />
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    and merry christmas ... ( necessary early), for allemoticones_3d_navidad_gratis_msnanimal_com-13.gif
  • MJonline:<br />
    This brings me back to why I think Front and TS are the same person, although Elvis might be sometimes helping TS just so TS can say "authors".  They have the same zany sense of humor, are both so sweet and loving, often use the same words, and both like to throw a curve ball with their words at the end.  I really think we can trust the messages and explanations 'they' say, and that they only throw the 'maybes', 'ifs', and other word plays at the end to mess with our minds for game purposes--to keep us on our toes. Those teasy words are sort of like a wink to us.  Of course they (he) want us to examine everything they say much closer to get the clues and connections.  I honestly think we shouldn't torture ourselves, and stop doubting.  On the other hand they may be adding those words to keep casual readers or enemy people in an unsure state.
    <br /><br />If Front is Michael and TS and Front are the same person that means TS is Michael too so that leads me to think that TS is a liar because he said he is not MJ so MJ is a liar?<br /><br />MJonline:<br />
    Front has never never--never ONCE!!--asked anyone to believe his words based on his words alone. And that REMAINs the case. Evidence speaks for itself... Don'T take mere words at face value.<br /><br />In other words Front's words have been backed up by MJ FB, Paris' tweets, TMZ, MJ's lyrics, other Jackson tweets, Back's/SOTT's posts, family and insider interviews, and more.  If we do our homework, re-read and re-read as in 'hind-sight', which takes a lot of commitment and is no easy task, then we will KNOW that he is telling us as  he says the "words of truth".  But the job of us convincing ourselves has to come from our own selves, not him.  I think he's waiting to see if we can make those connections and then stand with it, which is different than just blind leaps of faith.  This is deep calling to deep.  JMT<br />
    <br /><br />Yes you are right the meaning of Front's words in this case means exactly as you have written it above.<br /><br />Bec:<br />
    even from those who seem like they are ready to bite his head off and spit him out if he doesn't BAM by THEIR deadline?<br /><br /><br />if that's what you think about anyone here then you aren't reading the posts. No one said that. No one implied that. Your pal TS_comments is the one who gave the deadline first of all. If MJ doesn't want a deadline he needs to take it up with the one posing as his insider and promising a Bamsday in the so-near-you-can-taste-it future. If MJ wants space, then he should have Jermaine Tweet that there is no hoax, MJ is dead, and the hoax investigation website(s) need to come down. Souza has always said one email from Jermaine (or any member of the Jackson Family) and she will pull the plug. MJ can have all the space he wants with one click of the mouse.<br /><br />As soon as a man asks for space you knows it's over.<br />
    <br /><br />You have never said something TRUEST than what you have written above, I have given myself body and soul to this hoax and forum and if Michael wants and needs SPACE I will help him by leaving this forum and the hoax---->Michael I wish you the best wether you come back or not<----  <br /><br />I love you all but please make you all a favour and go back to your lives, Michael knows the path he must follow to clear his name and BAM if he wants to by himself, he doesn't need our support or help anymore otherwise he will feel pressured.
  • @ sweetsunset, but no one has asked for the forum to be shut down in 3.5 yrs, so he can't want that much space...<br /><br />Besides if he wants space he'd just stay away. But he keeps us going and continues to return ;)
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    <br />@ sweetsunset, but no one has asked for the forum to be shut down in 3.5 yrs, so he can't want that much space...<br /><br />Besides if he wants space he'd just stay away. But he keeps us going and continues to return ;)<br />
    <br /><br />exactly Aussie, I don't think it's about MJ having space, what front would have meant was us to have some patience...he wants us to be more careful and pay attention to the events that would be unfolding in the near future...it's about us staying together <3
  • jonojono Posts: 279
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    <br />@ sweetsunset, but no one has asked for the forum to be shut down in 3.5 yrs, so he can't want that much space...<br /><br />Besides if he wants space he'd just stay away. But he keeps us going and continues to return ;)<br />
    <br /><br />exactly Aussie, I don't think it's about MJ having space, what front would have meant was us to have some patience...he wants us to be more careful and pay attention to the events that would be unfolding in the near future...it's about us staying together <3<br />
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  • emulikemulik Posts: 1,009
    Merry early Christmas to you Front and your closest and to all MJ family here  :) at least we have a chance to celebrate Christmas longer  :icon_razz:<br />stay safe and if you are going to travel somewhere, take care and enjoy yourself! <br /><br />Front, what do you like most about the Christmas? do you like white snowy Christmas or warmer one?
  • wishingstarwishingstar Posts: 2,927
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5Yi0LBvzUIP5tsvMy7rrKPjN8bYKZUl1quegebyT9VEaj9dOriw<br /><br />I'm leaving Oreos for Santa....got milk, Front? <br />Merry Christmas to this big, beautiful group I call my hoax family.....<br />Love you much.  May you be blessed with love and kindness always....<br /><br />Keep the faith, hold the truth in your heart<br />and never doubt Michael's love for humanity......<br />it's all for L.O.V.E.<br /><br />Blessings Always<br /><br />
  • JosJos Posts: 360
    If Michael wanted space, he would never give us clues..<br />I think Front was asking for patience indeed.<br /><br /><br />
  • gwynnedgwynned Posts: 1,361
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    <br />Happy Holidays to you and your children, Mr Front ! <br /><br />By the way, what about the (necessarily early) thing ?<br />
    <br /><br />Early works for me!  :icon_bounce:  Got my dancin' shoes all ready.<br /><br />And yes, the Happiest of Holidays to you and yours, Front.  And thank you.  For everything.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
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    <br />I wave hello to you Front.  :smiley_abuv: Nice post, funny, to-the-point and touching at the same time.  <br /><br />It's nice to see the good atmosphere here; just saw FB's new entry so I thought we could relate lol:<br /><br />Michael Jackson<br />Il y a 35 minutes<br />Song Lyrics:<br /><br />“Let me fill your heart with joy and laughter,<br />Togetherness, well that's all I'm after,<br />Whenever you need me, I'll be there” - (Lyrics from “I’ll Be There”)<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson<br />
    <br /><br />He certainly has for me<br /><br /> ;D <br /><br />ps.....also I think those recent tweets by La Toya are really interesting considering how this thread has been lately  :icon_cool:<br />
    <br /><br />Cool!  :icon_e_wink: <br /><br />When I put the following together then we can say that once more Front has been validated with our dear FB page:<br /><br />First I said:<br /><br />
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    <br />I don't want we forget all the times Front posted and made us happy just because of that lol<br />
    <br /><br />Then, a little more than 1 hour after, Front posted:<br /><br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg432585.html#msg432585<br /><br />Finally, the following day FB posted the lyrics of "I'll be there" which corresponded perfectly with the fact that Front posted and everyone was filled with joy lol<br /><br />“Let me fill your heart with joy and laughter,<br />Togetherness, well that's all I'm after,<br />Whenever you need me, I'll be there” - (Lyrics from “I’ll Be There”)<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson<br /><br />To me these are dots to be connected. Something worth saving.  :icon_cool:<br /><br />Ps: Diggy, what are you talking about? How did I know what? :suspect:<br /><br />
  • diggyondiggyon Posts: 1,376
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    <br />I wave hello to you Front.  :smiley_abuv: Nice post, funny, to-the-point and touching at the same time.  <br /><br />It's nice to see the good atmosphere here; just saw FB's new entry so I thought we could relate lol:<br /><br />Michael Jackson<br />Il y a 35 minutes<br />Song Lyrics:<br /><br />“Let me fill your heart with joy and laughter,<br />Togetherness, well that's all I'm after,<br />Whenever you need me, I'll be there” - (Lyrics from “I’ll Be There”)<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson<br />
    <br /><br />He certainly has for me<br /><br /> ;D <br /><br />ps.....also I think those recent tweets by La Toya are really interesting considering how this thread has been lately  :icon_cool:<br />
    <br /><br />Cool!  :icon_e_wink: <br /><br />When I put the following together then we can say that once more Front has been validated with our dear FB page:<br /><br />First I said:<br /><br />
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    <br />I don't want we forget all the times Front posted and made us happy just because of that lol<br />
    <br /><br />Then, a little more than 1 hour after, Front posted:<br /><br />http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg432585.html#msg432585<br /><br />Finally, the following day FB posted the lyrics of "I'll be there" which corresponded perfectly with the fact that Front posted and everyone was filled with joy lol<br /><br />“Let me fill your heart with joy and laughter,<br />Togetherness, well that's all I'm after,<br />Whenever you need me, I'll be there” - (Lyrics from “I’ll Be There”)<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson<br /><br />To me these are dots to be connected. Something worth saving.  :icon_cool:<br /><br />Ps: Diggy, what are you talking about? How did I know what? :suspect:<br />
    <br /><br />That Mr. Front has 3 kids?!! :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:!!
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    <br />everyone who does or who thinks people shouldn't put pressure on MJ and that we should give him some SPACE, should know regardless that the end point of THIS PHASE of the hoax, is the BAM.<br />
    <br /><br />Boom! Love you UYI  :screaming-7365:<br /><br />Meanwhile so jealous of you. Stay safe have a great vacation!  :bearhug:<br /><br /><br /><br />@MJonmind. Great post!!<br />
    <br /><br />Love you the most. <br />Haha, yeah Day 2 and its been great so far, L.A isn't as cold as I thought it would be and its winter here.<br />
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
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    <br />That Mr. Front has 3 kids?!! :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:!!<br />
    <br /><br />Oh right. <br /><br />Bunny told me.  :icon_albino:
  • diggyondiggyon Posts: 1,376
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    <br />That Mr. Front has 3 kids?!! :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:!!<br />
    <br /><br />Oh right. <br /><br />Bunny told me.  :icon_albino:<br />
    <br /><br />Ohhhhh, so you speak Arabic  and Bunny language!!!! ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Teach me pleaaaaase!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:  :icon_e_biggrin:
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    If he read the posts he would know how hard we have worked on this and how devoted we are to discovering the truth. Knowing how much we have applied ourselves to this cause, and so thoroughly, it ought to be cringe-worthy to suggest that we aren't working hard enough. You figure, there is no consensus. We are all over the map in our thoughts n feelings n "hunches" regarding these mysteries laid out before us. Some believe X, some believe Y, some believe Z. If there were truth to be learned beyond a shadow of a doubt, you'd think there ought to be a collectively accept brand of it floating around this board somewhere. As it is, that is not the case... obviously... since we are being told to try harder. Or maybe just I. I remember how it turned out the LAST time I was singled out. You (collective: TS n co.) won't fool me so easily a second time.<br /><br />Unfortunately, @Front, I have reread the posts. back's posts as well. And upon utilizing a fresh perspective, you do not seem like back. You're an excellent copy, however, as it took more then a year of posts to be able to catch a whiff of that.<br /><br />Further, back said nothing about an impending Bam. He made precious few posts regarding a mysterious event upcoming and the few that he did could have easily been referring to what ultimately became slated to be the TII concert series. Post 6/25/09, he made only one reference to such an event still forthcoming and that was in the Vision post regarding two kings, Jesus & Michael. The line "and the end result shall be the same" COULD very easily without any massaging, mean MJ's ascension into heaven to be seated at the right hand of God. Which could have just been a bestowment of respect for MJ, dearly departed.<br /><br />Beyond that back said more then once, NOT a comeback, but a TAKEover. So back says no comeback. That statement sort of cancels Bam so it starts to boil down to what you WANT to believe. Word games no doubt, this one plays on the power of wishful thinking. However it is unfortunate, that if wishful thinking had any true power, MJ would have shocked the world by the time of this writing and been returned to his rightful place in our culture, where he belongs; a figure to be revered. <br /><br />Lastly, back made a prophecy that the stain shall be removed in due course. Have we seen any movement in this arena? NO. Am I giving up hope that this prophecy will ever be realized? You bet. Wishful thinking indeed, I hung my hoax hat on this promise for 3 years now. I will probably never give up hope for this, until I'm old n grey n utterly jaded by this world and it's complete lack of fairness and righteousness in even the most basic things. <br /><br />There's nothing worse then a game designed to sabotage the player. No matter how well you hone your skills and apply yourself to learn the rules and parameters you are destined to fail. Games like this are NO FUN and upon discovering the built-in design to ensure failure by the player, are quickly abandoned for more fruitful and positive pursuits. No one likes to feel like a loser.<br /><br />I have built my career and so therefore my worth on an art form that eludes perfection completely. No matter how hard you work or how diligently you devote yourself, you will never achieve perfection on the back of a horse... simply due to the nature of the sport. Riding properly is all about nuances. You must influence the horse to cooperate with you to achieve your goals. You may not demand or dictate, you must massage and encourage, request and suggest. Some days, no matter how hard you try, horsey will have none of it, so we put off the pursuit for perfection to a later date. There is no part of my DNA that accepts failure with this venture because although perfection remains forever outside of my grasp, I can continue to move towards it, and the goal remains to come within a stone's throw at the end of one's lifetime; or the end of one's soundness (UGH).<br /><br />But I know enough when to throw in the towel. If I encounter a horse who's personal quirks involve sabotaging me as a rider, I wash my hands of him. Life is too short, and full of too many GOOD horses, to waste my precious fleeting time here on earth (and my precious fragile BODY) with a dink. The wisdom to discern between a troubled soul who needs a little coaxing and a villain looking to dump me at the first opportunity is crucial, as our time here can be shortened in the blink of an eye, and some things in life do not have an abort button.<br /><br />So please, Mr. Front, do not suggest that I am not and have not tried hard enough because that may be the grandest, most deeply personal insult ever thrown my way.
  • GINAFELICIAGINAFELICIA Posts: 6,506
    worried or excited??
  • gwynnedgwynned Posts: 1,361
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    <br />worried or excited??<br />
    <br /><br />Yes.
  • FrontFront Posts: 155
    :errrr: :icon_e_confused: <br /><br />Sounds like you got it all figured out, bec: Front is a fake, which would mean that Paris, Jermaine, La Toya, the official MJ FB page, the handwritten notes, etc. etc. are also fake--- and yep, MJ did indeed depart from this world on June 25, 2009. <br /><br />:icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />…..although I seriously doubt that you honestly believe any of that.<br /><br />It's clear that you have misinterpreted my words--- AGAIN--- after reading your previous post…..hence the magnifying glass---NOT because you haven't "tried hard enough" in the past 3+ years. <br /><br />Get back on the horse--both literally & figuratively. We both know you can--- and WILL. <br /><br />Don't lose your faith in MJ now…..not now.
  • SarahliSarahli Posts: 4,265
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    <br />That Mr. Front has 3 kids?!! :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:!!<br />
    <br /><br />Oh right. <br /><br />Bunny told me.  :icon_albino:<br />
    <br /><br />Ohhhhh, so you speak Arabic  and Bunny language!!!! ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Teach me pleaaaaase!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:  :icon_e_biggrin:<br />
    <br /><br /> :icon_albino: :icon_albino: :icon_albino: -- :icon_albino: -- :icon_albino: :icon_albino: -- :icon_albino: :icon_albino: <--- I hope that you got it.  :icon_albino:  :icon_lol:<br /><br />On another note just wanted to say that when Front said to not take mere words at face value he probably also meant that his words have value due to the undeniable fact that he has been verified many times now with all the connections, and there really are many of them. So his words have value because of that.
  • JosJos Posts: 360
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    <br /> :errrr: :icon_e_confused: <br /><br />Sounds like you got it all figured out, bec: Front is a fake, which would mean that Paris, Jermaine, La Toya, the official MJ FB page, the handwritten notes, etc. etc. are also fake--- and yep, MJ did indeed depart from this world on June 25, 2009. <br /><br />:icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />…..although I seriously doubt that you honestly believe any of that.<br /><br />It's clear that you have misinterpreted my words--- AGAIN--- after reading your previous post…..hence the magnifying glass---NOT because you haven't "tried hard enough" in the past 3+ years. <br /><br />Get back on the horse--both literally & figuratively. We both know you can--- and WILL. <br /><br />Don't lose your faith in MJ now…..not now.<br />
    <br /><br /><br />Front, not that I'm losing hope or anything, just a question.<br />You say to "don't lose faith in MJ now.....not now."<br /><br />(I hope you understand me, if not just say so)<br />When can we lose faith? After TS' deadline is past?<br />When is the moment that we may think that "TS & Front are infact fake informers"?<br /><br />I mean, you saying we must have patience / not to pressure Michael (which I don't think any of us is doing) <br />And TS saying that the deadline on 1-1-2013...<br /><br />Look, I'm personally OK with the fact we have to wait in the waiting room a bit longer.<br />But there comes a time that one breaks and can't wait anylonger / is losing faith.<br /><br /><br />Long story short, are you working on the same deadline as TS is?
  • AndreaAndrea Posts: 3,787
    <br /><br />Necessary early?  That sounds...promising??!  In that case, a necessary early Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to you, Front, and everyone here!  I am hoping for the best for us all...this is exciting!<br /><br /><br />bec, I've always thought it would be natural for the 'stain removal' to happen during, or subsequent to, the BAM because there will be SO MUCH attention surrounding it.  I'm sure the Magician still has a lot of tricks up his sleeve.  Don't throw in the towel just yet...I don't think there'll be a need to throw one.<br /><br /><br />
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