<br />Just a few things, then I'm going back to my campfire and cup of tea.<br /><br />[size=10pt]- I'mconvinced. Really? At the end of the day if Bec wants to cann from out and demand an MJ denial it's her perogative. Not disrespectful at all. I respect you expressing your opinion but at the same time it was in attacking manner. Hitler project and then a smiley? Really? Jmo[/size]<br /><br />- Young Mack not saying you're lying, but was under the impression you only learnt about the hoax early this year. Your first posts on the forum were all about 'I'm learning so much, wow this is amazing etc etc' did I misunderstand back when you started when I thought you were new to the hoax? Confused. Also you say that you know what's going on? You don't like it? And that's all that you are saying? I ask, what exactly do you think is going on?<br /><br /><br />- Souza I think what u mentioned abt it being simpler than we initially thought and possibly 4 yrs from TII. Of course happy to be wrong.<br /><br />- Front I know u will ignore this request. But care to deny you are MJ? Not saying to say who you are but care to deny MJ like TS did? People keep saying 'of course he can't say who he is it will blow the whole thing' but is that even true? Not really. At the end if the day front is a faceless computer alias so nothing is really being jeapordized by you denying you are MJ if that is the case. I'm not being out of line. You know I'm a supporter and love reading your input on this thread. But entertain me if you will. TS did.<br /><br /><br />[size=12pt]Edit[/size]: I still think ur MJ for the record. If I am wrong then I'm ok with it and you fooled us well. It takes two to get sucked in :icon_e_wink:<br />
<br /><br /><br /> :LolLolLolLol: <br /><br />Might wanna put your big girl panties on and stay out grown folks bizness. Pull that thong out your ass huney. <br /><br />bec is mighty used 2 me by now and she damn sure don't need no one to defend her from me. <br /><br />Thanks. Enjoy your tea! :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
<br /> :errrr: :icon_e_confused: <br /><br />Sounds like you got it all figured out, bec: Front is a fake, which would mean that Paris, Jermaine, La Toya, the official MJ FB page, the handwritten notes, etc. etc. are also fake--- and yep, MJ did indeed depart from this world on June 25, 2009. <br /><br />:icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />…..although I seriously doubt that you honestly believe any of that.<br /><br />It's clear that you have misinterpreted my words--- AGAIN--- after reading your previous post…..hence the magnifying glass---NOT because you haven't "tried hard enough" in the past 3+ years. <br /><br />Get back on the horse--both literally & figuratively. We both know you can--- and WILL. <br /><br />Don't lose your faith in MJ now…..not now.<br />
<br /><br />Ok let's make this clear. I will never lose faith in MJ. It's that faith that, before all this craziness and bullshit, led me down this path in the first place. MJ didn't die like that. He didn't die a weirdo drug addict down n out and strung out. He didn't die pathetic and at his wits end, scared and desperate. That's not MJ. That's laughable. All that garbage is bullshit and I reject it. Always have and always will. I don't give a shit what "new development" breaks or what "insider close to the source" says to which hair-gel-ed plastic spaztic on the boob-toob. <br /><br />YOU, on the other hand, :suspect: are a WHOLE nother ball o wax, my friend.<br /><br />Pray tell, how are you interpreting my distrust of you and your team as losing faith in MJ? Or do you need your very own magnifying glass?<br /><br />We are very gentle, open minded and loyal people who seek only to see MJ vindicated. Do you understand that we really truly believe you may be MJ? TS was kind enough to lay it on the table years ago and assert that he is NOT MJ. At least he was forthcoming. You post web cam-style pics that suggest you are He. You post hoaxy hand written notes that appear to be MJ's own handwriting. You word your posts in a way that strongly suggest you are MJ talking in 3rd person. Then you say you CARE about us, each and every one of us. Do you understand the implications of what you are suggesting? Don't you get it? How badly we want to believe? Pretty damn bad, Front, REAL damn bad.<br /><br />Blah blah la la yeah I know.<br />
<br /><br />bec-<br /><br />I know you like to bust balls just as much as I do but for real girl there comes a Time when you need to learn when to back off. Front is Not going to GiVe you everything you want or demand. I do believe he has been more than patient with you over the course of his first appearance here in this thread. I've been here as well. <br /><br />Riding along in that crazytrain... :icon_bounce: <br /><br />I'm not defending Front in a way that he needs to have his ass kissed (lmao) cuz believe this he knows I don't kiss ass however I'm tired of seeing him constantly being challenged by you bec and it seems you are enjoying it a little to much now. It seems it is going beyond you just doubting his words/challenging him to prove to you something or challenging him to show him something? :icon_question:<br /><br />There is nothing wrong with standing your ground, being a tough broad and all but it starts to cross a line into straight up disrespect ya know? :icon_cool:<br /><br />And really bec IF you want answers to the questions you seek and IF Front/TS/TS_comments/S.T.U.D.Y./back/The sign are I_deed MJ, you are way out of line and disrespectful! IMO of course. :icon_twisted:<br /><br />But the answers you seek have already been given. You just need to open your miNd and look better than you have been. Stop being a Hitler project! :icon_geek:<br /><br /> :michael_jackson-1135: :computer-losy-smiley:<br />
<br /><br />Yes, I'm doing the annoying full quote thing and junking up the thread, because I completely disagree with your perception. I reread my post and I believe now as I believed at the time of writing that I was extremely respectful. Not one bit of that post is out of line or disrespectful. I chose my words very carefully. I have no idea who's behind that screenname.
:bearhug: :smiley-vault-misc-150:<br /><br />It's ok bec. I was not just referring only to that 1 quote. I did say since the beginning of Front entering this thread which means every Time you spoke but like I said it's ok. Your choice 2 live how you wanna live. <br /><br />I loVe you girl always.<br /><br /> :icon_cool: :icon_geek:
<br />Genevieve Jackson @RealGenevieveJ ; 18h<br />People are about to feel real dumb once it strikes 12 midnight lol<br /><br /> :icon_e_confused:<br />
<br /><br />A lot of these tweets about the beginning can be about the beginning of a new age... not about MJ's comeback. And this tweet could be referencing everyone who thought the end of the world was 12/21. Once midnight strikes, the theory dies and a lot of people will feel stupid. lol I just want to add a different perspective that is not hoax-related for balance sake.
It doesn't really matter if Front is Michael or not...whatever it is, events and loopholes have convinced us to believe in this hoax...meanwhile learning a lot more...<br /><br />Not that we care ONLY about the Bam and are completely despo about it, but why giving a 'date' and then shift it to some other date...why is that? what's the real purpose?<br />Souza, if Michael is supposed to come after 2012, There was no need for TS to mention, with confidence, that hoax will be completed within 2012...he could've just kept silent about comeback dates altogether...<br />What could be the possible explanation for TS's statements if Michael doesn't come back by 2012... was he playing with us? why?<br /><br />
Really? So Front hasn't denied he's MJ... okay have any of you thought that maybe it's because he IS MJ?? TS has (most likely) referred to Front as MJ, Front has posted pictures of handwriting and chest resembling Michael's, the family/official MJ facebook has been throwing shout outs to Front left and right... are any of these dots forming a picture? You all want Michael to be here, then when he most likely is, you're demanding that he prove to be Michael, and if he doesn't, then he's a fake and needs to "beat it". IMO, he's already proved to be Michael, or at least connected to him (Anyone happen to notice the "Family validating Front" thread?) <br /><br />Why can't Front just come here to spend time with his fans without being harassed about his identity? I don't know what else Front can do to prove he's Michael. MJ obviously would not come here and just straight up admit he's Michael, or post any revealing pictures. Have you all forgotten that he's "dead"? So much for "L.O.V.E." to the person we're all here for, especially at Christmas time.
Michael would be doing us a favor if he came here under a username and interacted with us. Yeah, there's no way we will find out if Front is Michael, at least not now. But honestly, I don't know what else is needed to prove Front is Michael, unless he were to make a video saying it. (actually, even if Michael were to post a video of himself saying he's Front, I'm sure there would still be people saying he's an impersonator or something). Did anyone think maybe Front wants to let us know he's Michael without 100% saying it? Why does his identity matter, anyway? The fact that the family has made numerous shout outs to a user on a Michael Jackson death hoax forum should be good enough proof that he's at least someone connected with the hoax.
@katy (MJFAN7): :th_bravo: I love you girl! You always make so much logical & common sense, positive comments!!<br /><br /><br />
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<br />It doesn't really matter if Front is Michael or not...whatever it is, events and loopholes have convinced us to believe in this hoax...meanwhile learning a lot more...<br /><br />Not that we care ONLY about the Bam and are completely despo about it, but why giving a 'date' and then shift it to some other date...why is that? what's the real purpose?<br />Souza, if Michael is supposed to come after 2012, There was no need for TS to mention, with confidence, that hoax will be completed within 2012...he could've just kept silent about comeback dates altogether...<br />What could be the possible explanation for TS's statements if Michael doesn't come back by 2012... was he playing with us? why?
<br />I think TS "played" a bit with us when he suggested all the previous "possible" BAM dates, to make us think for ourselves and search more info and educate ourselves.<br />BUT I definitely DOUBT TS joked when he said the BAM will come by January 1st! and that all the levels and signs will be completed by then.<br /><br />SO based on all that and all the clues we've received so far, especially the RESURRECTION-hints coming from 4 official sources 2 days ago, I think IT'S NOW OR NEVER !!! (@Sarahli ; :icon_e_wink: :icon_e_biggrin: ]<br /><br /><br /><br />
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<br />I take this redirect to mean TS is validating Front, and oh my goodness how stunned I was to see that handwriting.
<br />It's not so much about validation. Front has been validated long enough so far.<br /><br />It's about the word RESURRECTION!<br />We need to connect the dots we've received today about [size=12pt]RESURRECTION [/size]from[size=12pt] 4 different official sources:[/size] <br /><br />1. Paris - tweeter<br />2. MJ Official Facebook page<br />3. TIAI redirect December 20th <br />4. The official WMA 2012 site<br /><br />see links in the quote below<br /><br />
<br /><br />Okay "practically" demanding that he prove himself to be Michael. We call ourselves "believers" yet it seems a lot of us do not truly believe until things are handed to us on a platter. <br /><br />Love you Sim!! :bearhug:
Matthew 14:6-11<br />6 But when Herod's birthday came, the daughter of Herodias danced before the company and pleased Herod, 7 so that he promised with an oath to give her whatever she might ask. 8 Prompted by her mother, she said, “Give me the head of John the Baptist here on a platter.” 9 And the king was sorry, but because of his oaths and his guests he commanded it to be given. 10 He sent and had John beheaded in the prison, 11 and his head was brought on a platter and given to the girl, and she brought it to her mother.
<br />I think people should stop putting their hopes up on dates in any way and just enjoy the ride. Front is entertaining, TS gives people material to make them think or rethink. I don't feel a BAM coming in the next few days, doesn't mean I think TS is full of shit (he gave us way too much good info to discuss and think about). <br /><br />I believe MJ is alive because I looked at the evidence myself, not because TS, Front, Back, or whoever else told me. Same goes for BAM. MJ is alive and will be back, to me that is a fact that stands even if that doesn't happen this year. <br /><br />I am thinking more and more that it's much simpler than we thought. TII: we have 4 years. TII + 4 years = Ocotber 2013. Yes, another 10 months, who cares? Has been 3,5 years already, who gives a shit about another 10 months? Time flies by so quickly. I was 27 when this all started, I will be 32 soon. It has been long anyway, and in the meanwhile we have been entertained and we learned some valuable things. I'm not complaining.<br /><br />I notice too much in this thread that this is sort of a Front kiss-ass competition and that everyone tries to be as friendly as possible to Front but sometimes forget to be friendly towards each other. So people doubt Front? Since when is that a crime? As long as it's being done respectful then I don't have a problem with it. <br /><br />Front you shouldn't get pissed off either, you said multiple times 'DOUBT ME', so dont start balling if someone does. You're a big boy, deal with it. If you are right, people will see in the end. If you are full of shit then at least I had fun following this. <br /><br />I am at a point where I can't really wet my panties over anything anymore. There are more important things in life to worry about.
<br /><br /><br />Katy <br /><br />
Really? So Front hasn't denied he's MJ... okay have any of you thought that maybe it's because he IS MJ?? TS has (most likely) referred to Front as MJ, Front has posted pictures of handwriting and chest resembling Michael's, the family/official MJ facebook has been throwing shout outs to Front left and right... are any of these dots forming a picture? You all want Michael to be here, then when he most likely is, you're demanding that he prove to be Michael, and if he doesn't, then he's a fake and needs to "beat it". IMO, he's already proved to be Michael, or at least connected to him (Anyone happen to notice the "Family validating Front" thread?) <br /><br />Why can't Front just come here to spend time with his fans without being harassed about his identity? I don't know what else Front can do to prove he's Michael. MJ obviously would not come here and just straight up admit he's Michael, or post any revealing pictures. Have you all forgotten that he's "dead"? So much for "L.O.V.E." to the person we're all here for, especially at Christmas time.
<br /><br />Katy<br />
Michael would be doing us a favor if he came here under a username and interacted with us. Yeah, there's no way we will find out if Front is Michael, at least not now. But honestly, I don't know what else is needed to prove Front is Michael, unless he were to make a video saying it. (actually, even if Michael were to post a video of himself saying he's Front, I'm sure there would still be people saying he's an impersonator or something). Did anyone think maybe Front wants to let us know he's Michael without 100% saying it? Why does his identity matter, anyway? The fact that the family has made numerous shout outs to a user on a Michael Jackson death hoax forum should be good enough proof that he's at least someone connected with the hoax.
<br /><br />Thank you guys :th_bravo: :th_bravo: :th_bravo: :th_bravo:<br /><br />Please allow me to give you both this:<br /><br /><br /><br />because your posts are the best posts I have read in the last few days. People are making such a big deal out of of this whole thing. I am happy to be entertained this way! I am grateful to MJ for what I've learned so far and I don't care about the informer's real identity as long as he is doing me no harm. I am not waiting for any BAM and I have no deadline for anything. I am just watching, learning and being entertained and I love it this way. I also want to add something:<br /><br />Truth is still hidden in plain sight. All we have to do is watch things from a different perspective. That's what I am doing right now. Everything is so clear and only those who think outside the box will see it. <br /> <br />:smiley-vault-misc-150: Hi Mr. (Dr.) Jackson I know you're watching and I'm glad you are :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />Blesssings<br /> <br /><br />
<br /><br />I think this tweet is a clear symptom that BAM has been aborted for now!<br /><br />Come on Michael you only have to cross that fine and imaginary line between death and life :bowdown:<br /><br />
Hmm...published Sept 11, 2012. (11 years after Sept 11, 2001)<br />A threat to the US (perhaps the world) from "terrorists" (but really THEM or TPTB), electromagnetic bombs or explosion in space. <br />With the result that 9 out of 10 of us would be dead in a year. <br />[size=12pt]TS said none of us would grow old unless we already were.[/size]<br /><br /><br /><br />http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.ca/2012/12/michael-jackson-getting-your-house-in.html<br /><br />Daniel 12 predicts when Michael stands on earth, a time of trouble never seen before. Perhaps Bam isn't the main thing.<br />Front says we shouldn't worry or be scared, but... I hope TS's last Sign will help us out here, to know how we can help as in AOL, and protect ourselves. He said it had something to do with the authentic Ark of the Covenant.<br /><br />I really think that after the whole world was laughing at the Dec 21, 2012 Mayan End of the World, that the real thing will catch everyone off guard, thinking "Peace and safety".<br /><br />Adi had posted this on the Dec 20 thread, and it relates to this. <br />Dec 21 plus 1 day of simmering.<br />
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)<br />Speaking of fleeing at the end of time, Jesus said: “But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” (Matthew 24:20,21). Did you know that 12-21-2012 will be the first day of winter (northern hemisphere)? And did you know that 12-21-2012 will be a Friday? And did you know that in the Bible, the Sabbath day begins at sunset on Friday?? Is it a coincidence, that both of the things which Jesus mentioned (winter and Sabbath) will begin on the same day that the Mayan calendar ends?
<br />Don't mean to scare y'all. <br /> <br />TS and Front, where are you?
MJonmind...after reading your post I was assured of one thing .... everything in this hoax is set in its place from the start...everything is pre-planned. It doesn't really matter what TS or Front have to say because whatever may come and go, Michael WILL comeback at the pre-determined time, before it's too late...<br /><br /><br />
<br />For sure, all three 7's will be done by the end of 2012: Level 7, Update 7, and Sign 7 (777).<br />
<br /><br />So we still have the 777 coming before the end of 2012! 777... Doesn't that just SREAM MJ?? <br />There is a plan, a certain timing behind all of this, and I know you don't question that...<br /><br />Sign 7: RESURRECTION?.. Anyone?? :icon_lol:<br /><br />
<br />My last post was 12 days ago; and in that post I stated: “for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012”...<br /><br />...then when 2012 hits BAM (everyone who thinks that these giants are dead, will find out that they are NOT dead)! Could it be any clearer?? ..Instead of MJ receiving a birthday present, this year he gave a present to his hoax family (a "giant" BAM clue, through Paris). “It is more blessed to give than to receive.” (Acts 20:35)...<br /><br />... I finished my last post with this statement, “I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!” And now I will finish this post with the following statement, “If MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that Paris is a fake informer—and even La Toya, since she verified the pariisjaxn Twitter account more than once.”..<br /><br />...Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!! Previously, I have given probabilities, possibilities, hints, and clues of a BAM from MJ. However, this is the very first time that I have given a BAM timing with certainty—not that I am giving an exact day or even year (could be this year or next), but I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended... <br />
<br /><br />Does this sound like someone who is uncertain or someone who might change his mind? :suspect: :icon_e_confused:<br /><br />I don't think so.. It sounds pretty confident if you ask me! In TS's own words; Could it be any clearer???<br /><br />I am still confident that BAM will take place before Jan 1, 2013... Just wait and see!<br />I have always been under the impression that BAM will take place somewhere between 21-31st of December this year... It is coming! :icon_eek:<br /><br />And if January 1, 2013 comes without any MJ?... <br />Well... At least I won't blame anyone for questioning TS's credibility any longer... Of course, I will still believe (know) that MJ is alive! :icon_e_biggrin:<br /><br />This is my honest take on things and, of course... JMO :LolLolLolLol:<br /><br />@ MJ... The SUSPENSE!! :smiley_abuv:
<br />For sure, all three 7's will be done by the end of 2012: Level 7, Update 7, and Sign 7 (777).<br />
<br /><br />So we still have the 777 coming before the end of 2012! 777... Doesn't that just SREAM MJ?? <br />There is a plan, a certain timing behind all of this, and I know you don't question that...<br /><br />Sign 7: RESURRECTION?.. Anyone?? :icon_lol:<br /><br />
<br />My last post was 12 days ago; and in that post I stated: “for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012”...<br /><br />...then when 2012 hits BAM (everyone who thinks that these giants are dead, will find out that they are NOT dead)! Could it be any clearer?? ..Instead of MJ receiving a birthday present, this year he gave a present to his hoax family (a "giant" BAM clue, through Paris). “It is more blessed to give than to receive.” (Acts 20:35)...<br /><br />... I finished my last post with this statement, “I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!” And now I will finish this post with the following statement, “If MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that Paris is a fake informer—and even La Toya, since she verified the pariisjaxn Twitter account more than once.”..<br /><br />...Previously, I have given probabilities, possibilities, hints, and clues of a BAM from MJ. However, this is the very first time that I have given a BAM timing with certainty—not that I am giving an exact day or even year (could be this year or next), but I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended... <br />
<br /><br />Does this sound like someone who is uncertain or someone who might change his mind? :suspect: :icon_e_confused:<br /><br />I don't think so.. It sounds pretty confident if you ask me! In TS's own words; Could it be any clearer???<br /><br />I am still confident that BAM will take place before Jan 1, 2013... Just wait and see!<br />I have always been under the impression that BAM will take place somewhere between 21-31st of December this year... It is coming! :icon_eek:<br /><br />And if January 1, 2013 comes without any MJ?... <br />Well... At least I won't blame any unbelievers for questioning TS's credibility any longer... Of course, I will still believe (know) that MJ is alive! :icon_e_biggrin:<br /><br />This is my honest take on things and, of course... JMO :LolLolLolLol:<br /><br />@ MJ... The SUSPENSE!! :smiley_abuv:<br />
<br /><br />Please Jono could you post the links where TS posted those quotes? or at least the dates, thanks in advance.
I don't really get all this....just seems like anxiety speaking, given last days of a POTENTIAL BAM. Seems like the original meaning of why we are here has been forgotten. <br /><br />Re: Being on holiday: <br /><br />Paris tweet seems to point to that<br />Paris Jacksoη@ParisJackson<;br /><br /> the bed at this hotel is so amazingly comfortable it's ridiculous .. i feel like i'm cheating on my bed at home tho… #boyfriend #ilovemybed<br /> <br /><br /> (and Genevieve tweeted "Adios LA" last night)<br />
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