In this part of the TMZ picture we can see 2 faces. One seems to be the V for Vendetta mask. The other I don't know. What do you think am I going insane ? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Thank God ! Someone else can see it too <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> I thought I was crazy ! No, I dont know what the other face means, it dont look familiar.
I don't really know to make something out of the "knoll-type theory" statement.
I'll give it a try:
"Knoll type" seems to be attributed to "in the style of" design furniture (home and office).
Knoll is recognized as a worldwide design leader.
So the hoax theory is designed, stylish, global and leading.
Nice, TMZ, thx for the flowers <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
So hoaxers are better off than TMZ - we are worldwide leaders and stylish. <!-- s --><!-- s -->
Then TMZ wants to sell us a spy story...
"Finally, our spies have come clean.
Jackson's body did indeed arrive in a hearse, but it left in a SWAT van"
The special weapons and tactics concept originated in the late 1960s as a result of several sniping incidents against civilians and police officers around the country. Many of these incidents occurred in Los Angeles during and after the Watts Riot. Upon critical examination of how each incident was managed by police, the leadership of the LAPD realized that an effective response to these dangerous situations was virtually non-existent. Officer John Nelson presented the special weapons and tactics concept to a young inspector by the name of Darryl F. Gates. Inspector Gates concurred and approved the concept of a small group of highly disciplined officers utilizing special weapons and tactics to cope with these unusual and difficult attacks.
The first Special Weapons And Tactics (SWAT) Unit consisted of 15 four-man teams. Members of each team, who volunteered from the ranks of patrol and other police assignments, had specialized experience and prior military service. Each unit was activated for monthly training or when the need for special weapons personnel actually arose. These units, known as "station defense teams," provided security for police facilities during civil unrest.
In 1971, the SWAT personnel were assigned on a full-time basis to Metropolitan Division to respond to continuing action by subversive groups, the rising crime rate and the continuing difficulty of mustering a team response in a timely manner. Metropolitan Division, which had a long-established reputation as the tactical unit of the Department, was organized into "A", "B" and "C" Platoons. The Special Weapons And Tactics Unit was given the designation of "D" Platoon, and at the same time formally adopted the acronym SWAT. ]
Think of warnings of civil unrests in near future - not only in the U.S.
Double layer:
"Finally, our spies have come clean." - no drug addict
"Jackson's body did indeed arrive in a hearse, but it left in a SWAT van"
- MJ was at Staples July 7 but only the hearse left.
@Grace...the grassy knoll theory is about the JFK assassination. The grassy knoll is where many believe there was another shooter and that may have been where the fatal shot came from. It's a well known conspiracy theory in the US.
I googled 'grassy knoll' and this is the 1st page that appeared.... <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- m -->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dealey_Plaza<!-- m -->
and #2 on the page is this;
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Thirty-five years after the Kennedy assassination and speculation about a conspiracy, "grassy knoll" has become a generic term connoting hidden plots and subterfuge.
The caskets were different. Both were gold but the one at the funeral had different handles on it than the one at the memorial. Someone did a video and pointed out the differences. I do not have these photos. If someone could post them that would be great.
The caskets were different. Both were gold but the one at the funeral had different handles on it than the one at the memorial. Someone did a video and pointed out the differences. I do not have these photos. If someone could post them that would be great.
Was this really debunked??I'd like to see some pics also <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Are they making fun of us? Okay TMZ, go ahead laugh all you want. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> I find it funny that they would even post this article, I don't remember that question of what happened to the casket being asked anywhere but on these forums. They really ARE watching us. I don't know whether that's a good thing, like they're involved in the hoax & they're bringing this news out to prepare people for the BAM or if we're just fueling their fire. So that they can laugh at us & play with our minds some more & this whole hoax thing is what they're trying to stir up. Whatever the case, I have a strong feeling he was NEVER in either one of those caskets.
@Grace...the grassy knoll theory is about the JFK assassination. The grassy knoll is where many believe there was another shooter and that may have been where the fatal shot came from. It's a well known conspiracy theory in the US.
Thanks for explaining - some of the hoax is pure and only U.S. related.
We "outsiders" don't know all of that mud in detail.
This however leads again to the double theory. Point.
Not M Joe died but the other had a fatal shot.
What we were saying since I don't remember anymore... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
Hmm, I'd like to know how they solved the mystery, though. They say "their spies have come clean", but... how did they get the information? Did they travel back in time to see where "Michael" was taken? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
Handles on the casket at the memorial are different to the ones at the funeral if you look closely the funeral handles have a detailed pattern whereas the ones on the memorial are less ornate. There is a video on ytube which goes into great details on the differences between the caskets.
Handles on the casket at the memorial are different to the ones at the funeral if you look closely the funeral handles have a detailed pattern whereas the ones on the memorial are less ornate. There is a video on ytube which goes into great details on the differences between the caskets.
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LOL, I thought I was losing it. I am glad someone else saw the video as well. Do you remember who did the video?
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Annie...I posted about the red casket on page 2. Take a look.
saw it too <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
I don't really know to make something out of the "knoll-type theory" statement.
I'll give it a try:
"Knoll type" seems to be attributed to "in the style of" design furniture (home and office).
Knoll is recognized as a worldwide design leader.
So the hoax theory is designed, stylish, global and leading.
Nice, TMZ, thx for the flowers <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
So hoaxers are better off than TMZ - we are worldwide leaders and stylish. <!-- s
Then TMZ wants to sell us a spy story...
"Finally, our spies have come clean.
Jackson's body did indeed arrive in a hearse, but it left in a SWAT van"
http://www.lapdonline.org/metropolitan_division/content_basic_view/849
[History of S.W.A.T.
The special weapons and tactics concept originated in the late 1960s as a result of several sniping incidents against civilians and police officers around the country. Many of these incidents occurred in Los Angeles during and after the Watts Riot. Upon critical examination of how each incident was managed by police, the leadership of the LAPD realized that an effective response to these dangerous situations was virtually non-existent. Officer John Nelson presented the special weapons and tactics concept to a young inspector by the name of Darryl F. Gates. Inspector Gates concurred and approved the concept of a small group of highly disciplined officers utilizing special weapons and tactics to cope with these unusual and difficult attacks.
The first Special Weapons And Tactics (SWAT) Unit consisted of 15 four-man teams. Members of each team, who volunteered from the ranks of patrol and other police assignments, had specialized experience and prior military service. Each unit was activated for monthly training or when the need for special weapons personnel actually arose. These units, known as "station defense teams," provided security for police facilities during civil unrest.
In 1971, the SWAT personnel were assigned on a full-time basis to Metropolitan Division to respond to continuing action by subversive groups, the rising crime rate and the continuing difficulty of mustering a team response in a timely manner. Metropolitan Division, which had a long-established reputation as the tactical unit of the Department, was organized into "A", "B" and "C" Platoons. The Special Weapons And Tactics Unit was given the designation of "D" Platoon, and at the same time formally adopted the acronym SWAT. ]
Think of warnings of civil unrests in near future - not only in the U.S.
Double layer:
"Finally, our spies have come clean." - no drug addict
"Jackson's body did indeed arrive in a hearse, but it left in a SWAT van"
- MJ was at Staples July 7 but only the hearse left.
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and #2 on the page is this;
<!-- m -->http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/gk_name.htm<!-- m -->
Thirty-five years after the Kennedy assassination and speculation about a conspiracy, "grassy knoll" has become a generic term connoting hidden plots and subterfuge.
I just took a look. <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> But I always thought it was the same casket(memorial/funeral)??
Was this really debunked??I'd like to see some pics also <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
Thanks for explaining - some of the hoax is pure and only U.S. related.
We "outsiders" don't know all of that mud in detail.
This however leads again to the double theory. Point.
Not M Joe died but the other had a fatal shot.
What we were saying since I don't remember anymore... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
The handles are the same. Look at the handle on the end of the casket from memorial, and look at the handles on the other pic. It's the same.
That's great. I'm glad you posted that.
Memorial underground:
It does look the same. I wonder why the "red" casket. I don't think TMZ made a mistakes. Any other thoughts?
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Agree they are different.
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LOL, I thought I was losing it. I am glad someone else saw the video as well. Do you remember who did the video?
well... im english and...
No. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
haha