Michael Jackson Casket Mystery Solved TMZ

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  • MJsFan4EverMJsFan4Ever Posts: 334
    RIP 49%
    Still Alive 51%
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  • "Thirty-five years after the Kennedy assassination and speculation about a conspiracy, "grassy knoll" has become a generic term connoting hidden plots and subterfuge."

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/gk_name.htm

    It started after the Kennedy assasination saying that there was not only Oswald in the Book Depository but also one, two or three gunmen were alsoon the ground ready to assasinate Kennedy, one of which is said to have been on the grassy knoll. People were reported to have seen and heard gunshots coming from the grassy knoll. Then it is said that the direction from which Kennedy was hit was an impossible shot to come from the Book Depository. It is known as "the magic bullet."


    More Reading (Sources):

    http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/11/dayintech_1122

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ3.htm (did not read all of this but it seems pretty informative) <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Also just common knowledge on my part since I have lived in Texas my whole life. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • "Thirty-five years after the Kennedy assassination and speculation about a conspiracy, "grassy knoll" has become a generic term connoting hidden plots and subterfuge."

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/gk_name.htm

    It started after the Kennedy assasination saying that there was not only Oswald in the Book Depository but also one, two or three gunmen were alsoon the ground ready to assasinate Kennedy, one of which is said to have been on the grassy knoll. People were reported to have seen and heard gunshots coming from the grassy knoll. Then it is said that the direction from which Kennedy was hit was an impossible shot to come from the Book Depository. It is known as "the magic bullet."


    More Reading (Sources):

    http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/11/dayintech_1122

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ3.htm (did not read all of this but it seems pretty informative) <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Also just common knowledge on my part since I have lived in Texas my whole life. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->


    Tabloid Junkie:

    Speculate to break the one you hate
    Circulate the lie you confiscate
    Assassinate and mutilate
    As the hounding media in hysteria
    Who's the next for you to resurrect
    JFK exposed the CIA
    Truth be told the grassy knoll
    As the blackmail story in all your glory
  • SouzaSouza Posts: 9,400
    "Thirty-five years after the Kennedy assassination and speculation about a conspiracy, "grassy knoll" has become a generic term connoting hidden plots and subterfuge."

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/gk_name.htm

    It started after the Kennedy assasination saying that there was not only Oswald in the Book Depository but also one, two or three gunmen were alsoon the ground ready to assasinate Kennedy, one of which is said to have been on the grassy knoll. People were reported to have seen and heard gunshots coming from the grassy knoll. Then it is said that the direction from which Kennedy was hit was an impossible shot to come from the Book Depository. It is known as "the magic bullet."


    More Reading (Sources):

    http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/11/dayintech_1122

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ3.htm (did not read all of this but it seems pretty informative) <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Also just common knowledge on my part since I have lived in Texas my whole life. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->


    And that make this sentence: "It fueled a grassy knoll-type theory that Jackson's body wasn't really inside the casket and maybe he was still alive."

    actually sound like this: "It fueled a very plausible theory that Jackson's body wasn't really inside the casket and maybe he was still alive."
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    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

  • XinobiXinobi Posts: 6
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    Read the material that came out at TMZ:

    Is the answer to the question you were curious, so I forgot but now you think like: "Wow, I really want to know - as did the body of Michael Jackson seems to disappear after his memorial, and only to reappear in the cemetery? "

    On July 7, 2009, Staples Center memorial was held in front of thousands of people in downtown Los Angeles - The body of Jackson was housed in a red coffin of $ 25,000.

    After the memorial, although hundreds of thousands of cameras and the eyes were trained on the exits, no one saw any evidence that the coffin left the building. He fed a theory of type Grassy Knoll Jackson's body was not inside the coffin, and perhaps he was still alive.

    Finally, our spies found. The body of Jackson, in fact, arrive in a hearse, but was leaving in a SWAT van. The van was taken to a secret location, where they met with a van Forest Lawn - who then transported the body to the cemetery without being noticed.

    You're welcome.



    Hi?

    Our .... They took too long to figure that out? Because I always knew it!

    After that another explanation for the coffin had to leave without being seen? It is clear that someone picked up the coffin and took to the Forest Lanw. My God! After coming out of a coffin funeral goes where? Always been told that the coffin was there waiting for the funeral. Or forgotten mausoleum? From this room that Michael was 874,653 and the Securities?

    In the field above says that the disappearance of the coffin raised suspicions about him being alive (love)

    but ..

    Just because the team efficient TMZ discovered that the coffin was all that time in the cemetery, we now believe he died?

    Hi? I laughed .. (sorry)

    Putz! This becomes tãooo little before so many clues. Passes unnoticed by lala ..

    Wow! .. Actually everything should be forgotten now, because TMZ has discovered that the coffin was in the cemetery. Something that is more than normal in the cemetery the coffin is, after all before he was in a funeral! Where else's coffin should be?

    MY GOD!

    And you know what I found most "funny"? It is that TMZ was the only one who spoke of the brain after so long .. hehe

    And TMZ detective needed to discover all this? rs

    Why the brain of Michael and the fate of his body was secret? rs

    Another thing ..

    What is this montage of the photo? The coffin running with the feet of Michael? hehehe want to say that Michael himself ran out and taking his own coffin. And dead you run? ('ve Died)

    I just thought that with a tone of irony and sarcasm? lalalala (I'm sorry but unfortunate enough to be so)


    Now the best of all is now ..

    TMZ put this matter a poll asking: Michael alive or dead?

    Aveeee ...

    Detail: "still alive" is gaining ...

    Look:

    16bex34.jpg


    Does TMZ will say something about the result? Bammmm!!

    Seriously ..

    TMZ is doing is that poll? For pure personal pleasure? And where ethics and respect they should have the death of Michael? Oh okay! The connection is ended when they put material in the air! And remembering that TMZ is a gossip site, and only with the death of Michael they can be so "superior" to CNN and co.

    OMG! As the polls that a TMZ puts on the air? 'm Beige!

    It's definitely a lot of air play in my opinion, this type of question should not be on a site. The family must be "offended" .. hehe


    Let's vote and prove that Michael may be alive!

    I loved the "DE NADA" at the end of the matter ... rs (mta irony). We thank the staff of TMZ detective who is very efficient, and took more than 5 months to find out that Michael was in the cemetery .. that would be buried? (I wonder where they thought he was)

    In my humble opinion, when TMZ says that we must believe that he is alive, because now they know that Michael's body was in the cemetery and thus explaining the disappearance of the body, they are in some way "forced" to believe that he dead! But followed shortly finalize the matter with the polls asking if people think he is alive.

    (Complex)

    TMZ decides dear ..! Or do you want fans to think he is alive or dead! (TMZ TMZ TMZ ALWAYS ..)

    And remembering that she is profiting from this kind of matter. And if her goal is to be funny is getting, but if you wanted a picture of a broadcaster with credibility and serious .. this kind of "game" will be named to the drain. After all we are talking about a person who died.

    Anyway ..

    here is the link of the matter:

    <!-- m -->http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/10/michael-j ... es-center/<!-- m -->


    Michael is alive!
  • willddoMJwillddoMJ Posts: 699
    double post mate
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    the picture is very explicit TMZ <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • FigmentFigment Posts: 61
    If what TMZ says in this article is actually true, the use of the SWAT fan suggests to me that this could all be a witness protection situation. Just sayin'.
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    The real meaning of "Red Casket" from seeing clues:

    <!-- m -->http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2010/04 ... offin.html<!-- m -->


    As always, with L.O.V.E xox
  • 2good2btrue2good2btrue Posts: 4,210
    This has been posted on the 4/9/09
    Jackson's body has been kept at the cemetery since his public memorial service at the Stapes Centre in downtown Los Angeles on July 6.


    So since when has it been a Mystery about the whereabouts of MJ's coffin and body????

    Every other news article I've seen have said the coffin was at Forest Lawn already.

    Do you know what I mean <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:?: -->:?:<!-- s:?: -->


    <!-- m -->http://www.mjbaltic.com/<!-- m --> As always with L.O.V.E xox
  • jilljill Posts: 917
    @2good2betrue...Fraud-Red Casket....We couldn't get a better description!
  • paula-cpaula-c Posts: 7,221
    2good2btrue , In fact Murray is crucified, all the media talk, at least here .. the doctor who "murderer Michael Jackson" <!-- s:geek: -->:geek:<!-- s:geek: -->
  • becbec Posts: 6,387
    "Thirty-five years after the Kennedy assassination and speculation about a conspiracy, "grassy knoll" has become a generic term connoting hidden plots and subterfuge."

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/gk_name.htm

    It started after the Kennedy assasination saying that there was not only Oswald in the Book Depository but also one, two or three gunmen were alsoon the ground ready to assasinate Kennedy, one of which is said to have been on the grassy knoll. People were reported to have seen and heard gunshots coming from the grassy knoll. Then it is said that the direction from which Kennedy was hit was an impossible shot to come from the Book Depository. It is known as "the magic bullet."


    More Reading (Sources):

    http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/11/dayintech_1122

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ3.htm (did not read all of this but it seems pretty informative) <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Also just common knowledge on my part since I have lived in Texas my whole life. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->


    And that make this sentence: "It fueled a grassy knoll-type theory that Jackson's body wasn't really inside the casket and maybe he was still alive."

    actually sound like this: "It fueled a very plausible theory that Jackson's body wasn't really inside the casket and maybe he was still alive."
    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->


    Thank you. The grassy knoll is THE one American conspiracy theory that is considered mainstream and plausible. In that way, it stands alone from other conspiracy theories which are generally considered fringe-y and a little woo woo out there.
  • <!-- m -->http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti ... id=6906708<!-- m -->


    Here is an old article that mentions the same:


    The Jackson family is not revealing where the body is at this point. It's possible his remains were brought back to Forest Lawn, but the Hollywood Hills cemetery may not be his final resting place.

    The family gathered for a private memorial service Tuesday morning at Forest Lawn, then the golden casket was driven to Staples Center, where about 19,500 people attended the public memorial service.


    Eyewitness News has learned how Michael Jackson's casket was removed from Staples Center undetected after Tuesday's memorial service. It was taken out of the arena hidden in an LAPD SWAT vehicle minutes after the memorial ended.
    "We're not going to discuss how the body was removed. As Chief Bratton says we have to keep some secrets," a spokesperson for the LAPD chief told Eyewitness News when asked about the removal.

    L.A. City Councilmember Dennis Zine is outraged Jackson's memorial service is costing the city what he estimates to be more than $1.4 million. The amount included $1.1 million in overtime pay for the 4,173 officers who worked to secure Staples Center, Forest Lawn cemetery and other areas that attracted fans and members of the media, police said in a statement.

    "Why would they have to put a casket in the SWAT van?" Zine questioned. "Why did they have to have SWAT deployed anyway? What kind of terrorist threat was placed upon this with Michael Jackson who had passed away?"

    He says Jackson's concert promoter and Staples Center owner AEG should pick up the tab.

    "AEG Staples should measure up and do what they're supposed to do. And the Jackson family as a part of this should say it was our loved one, it was the services that were performed for Michael Jackson, they should pay we shouldn't be profiting off of this," said Zine.

    City officials said Wednesday that the remaining amount covered traffic control, cleanup and other costs related to Tuesday's public memorial service, which was watched by tens of millions of people around the world.

    The city has also set up a Web site urging fans to make tax-deductible donations through credit cards, PayPal or check to help defray costs.

    Fans have thus far donated $17,000, but contributions have been hampered by technical problems, Szabo said in a statement.

    The site received so many hits that the servers crashed Tuesday night and several times Wednesday, Szabo said. The city's information technology department is working to rectify the problems.

    New City Controller Wendy Greuel is also raising an issue with the cost. Greuel has called on the City Council to create a policy declaring who should pay for city services associated with such events.

    In a letter to the emergency management department, Greuel criticized the nearly $49,000 expense for 3,500 police officers' lunches, which were ordered from a restaurant located 80 miles from Los Angeles in Wrightwood.

    Greuel said her office called a local sandwich shop that could have provided box lunches for less than $17,500. The purchase would have had the added benefit of supporting a local business, she said.

    Jackson's public memorial service has prompted an investigation by City Attorney Carmen Trutanich to determine how the city got stuck with the bill and who authorized the city's use of resources.

    Officials said although the memorial cost $1.4 million, it was far less than the $4 million that was originally estimated.


    Police detectives are looking into Jackson's prescription drug history and trying to talk with his numberous former doctors. The coroner has so far deferred the cause of Jackson's death pending the results of toxicology tests.

    "Based on those we'll have an idea of what it is that we're dealing with," said LAPD Chief William Bratton. "Are we dealing with a homicide? Are we dealing with an accidental overdose? What are we dealing with?"

    According to ABC News, Jackson was addicted to the painkillers Demerol and oxycontin. The sedative Diprivan was also found inside Jackson's rented mansion.

    ABC News is also reporting that Jackson's brothers will ask the state if they can bury the body at Neverland Ranch, even though that is reportedly not what his mother Katherine Jackson wants.

    Los Angeles County records show Forest Lawn mortuary as a temporary location.

    Experts say a delay in burial is not unusual, but the law requires that the body be stored properly.

    "It's my understanding that once the body is released, that there are no other requirements as long as its being properly stored. If, however, it is not being properly stored, and it becomes a matter of health and safety concerns, then the county coroner would be the individual who would be taking responsibility at that point," said Rick Wallender from the state cemetery and funeral bureau.

    Dozens of Encino residents met with city officials on Wednesday night to discuss the disruptions casued by street closures and fans and media gathered outside the Jackson family residence.

    After being closed for several days, Hayvenhurst Avenue has reopened and is now subject to regular parking restrictions.

    The Associated Press contributed to this story.
  • MYLOVELYONEMYLOVELYONE Posts: 175
    hahahahahaha hahaha is there another mystery for to solve?
    I love the pic
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  • darkchilddarkchild Posts: 1,161
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    "Thirty-five years after the Kennedy assassination and speculation about a conspiracy, "grassy knoll" has become a generic term connoting hidden plots and subterfuge."

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/gk_name.htm

    It started after the Kennedy assasination saying that there was not only Oswald in the Book Depository but also one, two or three gunmen were alsoon the ground ready to assasinate Kennedy, one of which is said to have been on the grassy knoll. People were reported to have seen and heard gunshots coming from the grassy knoll. Then it is said that the direction from which Kennedy was hit was an impossible shot to come from the Book Depository. It is known as "the magic bullet."


    More Reading (Sources):

    http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/11/dayintech_1122

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ3.htm (did not read all of this but it seems pretty informative) <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

    Also just common knowledge on my part since I have lived in Texas my whole life. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->


    Tabloid Junkie:

    Speculate to break the one you hate
    Circulate the lie you confiscate
    Assassinate and mutilate
    As the hounding media in hysteria
    Who's the next for you to resurrect
    JFK exposed the CIA
    Truth be told the grassy knoll
    As the blackmail story in all your glory

    TMZ <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> a grassy-knoll theory. You must be reading MJ's lyrics. Hmmmm seems to match with your story. TMZ poll that MJ is alive or RIP, and then Uri Geller saying at MJ is 99% dead or be maybe 1% alive. All on the same day. That is a killer to me. MJ, I know that you are alive! Applehead, please just come home to us! We love you and need you more than words could express! I want MJ back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think that Christmas is coming early this year! TMZ, can you feel it!

    Piece by piece, MJ is revealed until he jumps out. And on Michael's command, we begin."
  • MJsFan4EverMJsFan4Ever Posts: 334
    Have you noticed that this article is still the first one when there has been other articles posted after it <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
  • Oh I noticed! The article is top story still after it was posted at 7:53am on 4/10! TMZ does this when they want people to take notice.

    I dunno about you...but I'm thinking we aren't too far off from B-day (BAMs Day!)
  • If what TMZ says in this article is actually true, the use of the SWAT fan suggests to me that this could all be a witness protection situation. Just sayin'.

    Perhaps.
  • MJsFan4EverMJsFan4Ever Posts: 334
    Oh I noticed! The article is top story still after it was posted at 7:53am on 4/10! TMZ does this when they want people to take notice.

    I dunno about you...but I'm thinking we aren't too far off from B-day (BAMs Day!)

    Yeah I feel very excited! Hopefully soon and very soon we are going to see the KING! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
  • CCCC Posts: 2,136
    I accidentally read "red carpet" instead of "casket". How convenient. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Showtime!

    remember the red carpet on the heliport at the moment when the body went to the coroner???


    Red carpet ? helicoptor? do you have a link to that please <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    I do not think that "red coffin" was written by mistake, all that the writing was on purpose. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->

    As a non-native English speaker I admit I LOVE the word games we are constantly witnessing.
    Native English speakers may have a difficulty in getting the double meanings since they most likely understand the common main meaning of a word or sentence.
    Non-native English speakers check words or sentences once in a while by searching for the right interpretation or out of curiosity.

    CASKET = A LITTLE CASE FOR JEWELS

    <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • GraceGrace Posts: 2,864
    I accidentally read "red carpet" instead of "casket". How convenient. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> Showtime!

    remember the red carpet on the heliport at the moment when the body went to the coroner???


    Red carpet ? helicoptor? do you have a link to that please <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->

    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    ROFL <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->
  • Double post
  • RavenRaven Posts: 709
    Back to the double layer of the article.

    I don't really know to make something out of the
    "knoll-type theory" statement.
    I'll give it a try:
    "Knoll type" seems to be attributed to "in the style of" design furniture (home and office).
    Knoll is recognized as a worldwide design leader.

    So the hoax theory is designed, stylish, global and leading.
    Nice, TMZ, thx for the flowers <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
    So hoaxers are better off than TMZ - we are worldwide leaders and stylish. <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: -->


    Then TMZ wants to sell us a spy story...

    "Finally, our spies have come clean.
    Jackson's body did indeed arrive in a hearse, but it left in a SWAT van

    <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->

    the 'grassy knoll type theory'-expression is based on a figure of speech. it means that people came up with that who 'can hear the grass grow', i think it may be used as a term for 'insider information', like 'from the root'. or, if used in a way to tell someone he's losing it by coming up with some outrageous theory.

    'our spies have come clean' is a very interesting wording. 'to come clean' means to finally unveil, give up information that was withheld.

    i think this is made to look like a joke, but it's really a serious clue. especially with the attached poll. that's a people counter!! 'how much support is there, really'. i just checked again, it's over 83.000 votes now and 52% percent of that say mike lives!
    this hoax is such a genius piece of art. bow to the king!

    <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
    What about the wording ensconced in "Jackson's body was ensconced in a $25,000 red casket"
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