Prove the hoax. Specifically, the presence of (imo) a hoax court.
If we prove it, that means it's possible, which means anyone could do the same. This may have some major importance in regards to the come back. Makes sense to me.
The only thing that doesn't make sense is this: IF MJ wants us to prove it... why is he trying SO HARD to make it nearly impossible to prove? And why send Jermaine to shake us off the trail with his "not a hoax" comments? We already have little credibility, no one listens to us as it is. Why not leave well enough alone? Why discourage us further if he needs us to prove it?
It's contradictory so I'm left with no clear direction as this juncture.
I kinda think too, that MJ and his team need to do some more fine tuning giving clues and confidence balanced with shaking most followers off the trail--delicate. My question is if TS really wants people thinking/discussing NWO and how powerful and dangerous they are, does that not signal TPTB's bloodhounds right over to us, checking our posts. (Who are all those guests anyway?) It's not like we all meet in a bug-free, sound-tight room like Maxwell Smart's boss and him. You have Donald Trump twice really stressing how smart Michael is, and Kathy Hilton specifically saying how powerful MJ is. Pretty loud and clear, or are they playing an intimidation game with the big boys. The FBI are supposed to be involved, and IMHO they are connected with the CIA and big US government so how could they be good guys. As for MJ staying away in hiding and only coming out if we connect all the dots and "get" what he wants us to, that's like God saying Jesus will only come back when everybody on earth has heard. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. If that's the case, since we have limited human abilities, then this beautiful fabulous hoax will simply unravel, disintigrate and be perpetuated by a few toothless grannies (gramps) 30 to 50 years into the future. Naw, ain't gonna happen. I really think TS is just saying that to pressure us to put our thinking caps on, artistic license and all that. We have to read between the TS lines a bit. I really do think TS wants us to take the time to like heartphantom and MJFAN7 have just done, rehash previous posts of his. It's so much more fun to do quick superficial interpretations of new bits we see/read.
(picture 2 little guys perched on each of my shoulders) On the other hand, there is sadly a voice saying that all the clues and even the BAM part at the end of TII is part of a program of immortality and living on forever that MJ is instituting--a promise with no intention of fulfilling it with an actual comeback but giving us empty hope, starting a myth/legend/cult, etc. "It's all just good business", he says. <!-- s --><!-- s --> Could TS be kind and cruel at the same time? Afterall MJ doesn't really owe us anything, and has given all his life, has dealt with the pressures of unpleasant press and grabbing fans all his life. If that's true, that would cause me personal pain at the time I have wasted here then, but it would be my own choice. Sorry, I'm again weighing everything, and just don't know what to believe/think. <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr --> <!-- sgeek/ -->geek/<!-- sgeek/ -->
I think we all should need to slown down and get some rest. If this is a take over, it may get longer than we expected and the BAM might have postponed. Maybe that is the reason why the clues stopped and TS stopped posting. I'm pretty sure that everything will be up again with the trial. TS will be posting again. This is not going to last forever. Let's be patient all together and keep the faith.
I kinda think too, that MJ and his team need to do some more fine tuning giving clues and confidence balanced with shaking most followers off the trail--delicate. My question is if TS really wants people thinking/discussing NWO and how powerful and dangerous they are, does that not signal TPTB's bloodhounds right over to us, checking our posts. (Who are all those guests anyway?) It's not like we all meet in a bug-free, sound-tight room like Maxwell Smart's boss and him. You have Donald Trump twice really stressing how smart Michael is, and Kathy Hilton specifically saying how powerful MJ is. Pretty loud and clear, or are they playing an intimidation game with the big boys. The FBI are supposed to be involved, and IMHO they are connected with the CIA and big US government so how could they be good guys. As for MJ staying away in hiding and only coming out if we connect all the dots and "get" what he wants us to, that's like God saying Jesus will only come back when everybody on earth has heard. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. If that's the case, since we have limited human abilities, then this beautiful fabulous hoax will simply unravel, disintigrate and be perpetuated by a few toothless grannies (gramps) 30 to 50 years into the future. Naw, ain't gonna happen. I really think TS is just saying that to pressure us to put our thinking caps on, artistic license and all that. We have to read between the TS lines a bit. I really do think TS wants us to take the time to like heartphantom and MJFAN7 have just done, rehash previous posts of his. It's so much more fun to do quick superficial interpretations of new bits we see/read.
(picture 2 little guys perched on each of my shoulders) On the other hand, there is sadly a voice saying that all the clues and even the BAM part at the end of TII is part of a program of immortality and living on forever that MJ is instituting--a promise with no intention of fulfilling it with an actual comeback but giving us empty hope, starting a myth/legend/cult, etc. "It's all just good business", he says. <!-- s --><!-- s --> Could TS be kind and cruel at the same time? Afterall MJ doesn't really owe us anything, and has given all his life, has dealt with the pressures of unpleasant press and grabbing fans all his life. If that's true, that would cause me personal pain at the time I have wasted here then, but it would be my own choice. Sorry, I'm again weighing everything, and just don't know what to believe/think. <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr --> <!-- sgeek/ -->geek/<!-- sgeek/ -->
You said a mouthful <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ --> , but I'll just reply to the 3 items I enlarged, to cheer you up. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
And I want to say, too, PLEASE don't get apprehensive about all the "V"s (visitors). Such a huge group showing up at once <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> , it HAS to be the first wave of the Great PuppetMaster (leaving a trail of M & Ms, everywhere!!), leading them here to become full fledged BeLIEvers!! <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ -->
This can't be The Greatest Show On Earth, besting P.T. Barnum's shenanigans, when only a few thousand <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> people are in the seats, WATCHING <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ...
MJ is a Global Icon, and the Greatest Entertainer Who Ever Lived <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> . In 2011, with ALL the tools that Barnum didn't even HAVE for drawing crowds, It is UNTHINKABLE <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> that millions won't be WATCHERS, still getting in on some of the show, way before the BAM. I cannot see "I Love You More", Michael Jackson, leaving ANYone of his fans out of this. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> He's so sweet!
<!-- sbearhug -->bearhug<!-- sbearhug -->
MJ DOES owe us something. <!-- ssuspicious// -->suspicious//<!-- ssuspicious// --> HE PROMISED us a BAM. <!-- smj_bad/ -->mj_bad/<!-- smj_bad/ --> He said to "Keep Watchin!" He said the best was yet to come! He said, to just wait till he gets through, because he's BAD--you KNOW it <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> He is NOT going to KOP-out ( <!-- s --><!-- s --> pun intended, whether he's FBI or King of Pop), and just go do his life, in a sulk <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> , because not enough people understood what he was trying to do!!!!! He is excited about this, too! <!-- s --><!-- s -->
You know <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> , it is NOT the audience's job to gather the crowd at the circus, (well, maybe to bring a guest)---But, it is the <!-- sbow/ -->bow/<!-- sbow/ --> MADMAN behind the curtain's job to create enough commotion and colored lights to call people out of their comfy boring houses. <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ -->
This reminds me a LOT of the movie, Something Wicked This Way Comes!!! Not because MJ is wicked, in the evil sense, but because of all the <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ --> "crackling" in the air <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ --> , like in the movie, when the eerie Carnival <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ --> comes to town! SOMETHING <!-- smj_dance/ -->mj_dance/<!-- smj_dance/ --> is going to happen in a good way, with MJ being so wickedly mysterious and mischievous, these last two years...He's NOT trying to hurt us <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> ; it is MJ MAGIC. Instead of pulling a rabbit out of a hat, MJ is pulling all of us out of a twisted rabbit hole of his <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> creation!!! It is going to be great, I just know it!!
You're right, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. But a really wise person said once, "You CAN make him very, very thirsty". <!-- sgeek/ -->geek/<!-- sgeek/ --> <!-- smj_dance/ -->mj_dance/<!-- smj_dance/ -->
Reading TS again, I think, is a great idea. Then we will know exactly where to send people with questions---right to the pertinent thread. TS isn't exactly light reading... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> <!-- s --><!-- s --> One really MUST read him in context. AND, now read him with new "Hoaxing for two years, eyes". <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) -->
Btw, there are people in this community who are typing words in their posts in upper and lower case letters, indiscriminately, with no rhyme or reason that makes sense (to <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr --> me), let alone with MJ's direction, with a hoax hint in mind. This is HIGHLY awkward to read, & confusing to people who are reading TS, and searching for hidden hints from MJ(??). When "TS" does it, the caps form a word or phrase or idiom, or demonstrate intelligent hoax purpose. He wants us to get all his clues and thoughts, or why bother? <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> This may be one way (in the past) he meant for us to read between the lines... <!-- salbino/ -->albino/<!-- salbino/ --> If you spot something real, you KNOW <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> it. Kinda cool. <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ -->
I lied <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> , I have to say this, too. The FBI are good guys, pretty certain. The other guys have government oversight, but I think the FBI are actually independent of everyone. Seems like I read that. I'll have to look this up... The <!-- ssuspicious// -->suspicious//<!-- ssuspicious// --> other guys are used against them, to take them out, when one or a group of them stumble upon a major U.S. Government evil. Hmmm...how many agents died at Waco, from friendly fire??
Someone showed me a book once, that an FBI guy had written. It said on the cover, "If you are holding this book, I am dead." <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> (or something equally compelling) He explained in the book what he knew and why he would be killed.
And, he WAS dead, <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ --> by then!!! My friend said she couldn't put it down, but I was too busy then to read it. I'll ask my friend about it, again. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> The FBI is probably the most cerebral of ALL Law Enforcement. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> They are cool.
I see what you mean, but i believe those who want to bring litigation in regards to this faked death are already legally covered in their claims with the civil status papers that prove "death", they cannot be told by the Judge " well, you didn't doubt the official papers, you didn't start an investigation by your own to see they were fake, so you can't claim anything".
the fact that these legal papers are fake are law responsability of those who officially empower that papers and not of civils. i'm not sure my english covered what i meant to explain here but i guess yyou'll understand my point.
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Prove the hoax. Specifically, the presence of (imo) a hoax court.
If we prove it, that means it's possible, which means anyone could do the same. This may have some major importance in regards to the come back. Makes sense to me.
The only thing that doesn't make sense is this: IF MJ wants us to prove it... why is he trying SO HARD to make it nearly impossible to prove? And why send Jermaine to shake us off the trail with his "not a hoax" comments? We already have little credibility, no one listens to us as it is. Why not leave well enough alone? Why discourage us further if he needs us to prove it?
It's contradictory so I'm left with no clear direction as this juncture.
(picture 2 little guys perched on each of my shoulders) On the other hand, there is sadly a voice saying that all the clues and even the BAM part at the end of TII is part of a program of immortality and living on forever that MJ is instituting--a promise with no intention of fulfilling it with an actual comeback but giving us empty hope, starting a myth/legend/cult, etc. "It's all just good business", he says. <!-- s
You said a mouthful <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ --> , but I'll just reply to the 3 items I enlarged, to cheer you up. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
And I want to say, too, PLEASE don't get apprehensive about all the "V"s (visitors). Such a huge group showing up at once <!-- s:o -->:o<!-- s:o --> , it HAS to be the first wave of the Great PuppetMaster (leaving a trail of M & Ms, everywhere!!), leading them here to become full fledged BeLIEvers!! <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ -->
This can't be The Greatest Show On Earth, besting P.T. Barnum's shenanigans, when only a few thousand <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> people are in the seats, WATCHING <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> ...
MJ is a Global Icon, and the Greatest Entertainer Who Ever Lived <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> . In 2011, with ALL the tools that Barnum didn't even HAVE for drawing crowds, It is UNTHINKABLE <!-- s:x -->:x<!-- s:x --> that millions won't be WATCHERS, still getting in on some of the show, way before the BAM. I cannot see "I Love You More", Michael Jackson, leaving ANYone of his fans out of this. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> He's so sweet!
<!-- sbearhug -->bearhug<!-- sbearhug -->
MJ DOES owe us something. <!-- ssuspicious// -->suspicious//<!-- ssuspicious// --> HE PROMISED us a BAM. <!-- smj_bad/ -->mj_bad/<!-- smj_bad/ --> He said to "Keep Watchin!" He said the best was yet to come! He said, to just wait till he gets through, because he's BAD--you KNOW it <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> He is NOT going to KOP-out ( <!-- s
You know <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> , it is NOT the audience's job to gather the crowd at the circus, (well, maybe to bring a guest)---But, it is the <!-- sbow/ -->bow/<!-- sbow/ --> MADMAN behind the curtain's job to create enough commotion and colored lights to call people out of their comfy boring houses. <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ --> <!-- slolol/ -->lolol/<!-- slolol/ -->
This reminds me a LOT of the movie, Something Wicked This Way Comes!!! Not because MJ is wicked, in the evil sense, but because of all the <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ --> "crackling" in the air <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ --> , like in the movie, when the eerie Carnival <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ --> comes to town! SOMETHING <!-- smj_dance/ -->mj_dance/<!-- smj_dance/ --> is going to happen in a good way, with MJ being so wickedly mysterious and mischievous, these last two years...He's NOT trying to hurt us <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> ; it is MJ MAGIC. Instead of pulling a rabbit out of a hat, MJ is pulling all of us out of a twisted rabbit hole of his <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> creation!!! It is going to be great, I just know it!!
BAM <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- smj_dance/ -->mj_dance/<!-- smj_dance/ -->
You're right, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. But a really wise person said once, "You CAN make him very, very thirsty". <!-- sgeek/ -->geek/<!-- sgeek/ --> <!-- smj_dance/ -->mj_dance/<!-- smj_dance/ -->
Reading TS again, I think, is a great idea. Then we will know exactly where to send people with questions---right to the pertinent thread. TS isn't exactly light reading... <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> <!-- s
Btw, there are people in this community who are typing words in their posts in upper and lower case letters, indiscriminately, with no rhyme or reason that makes sense (to <!-- serrrr -->errrr<!-- serrrr --> me), let alone with MJ's direction, with a hoax hint in mind. This is HIGHLY awkward to read, & confusing to people who are reading TS, and searching for hidden hints from MJ(??). When "TS" does it, the caps form a word or phrase or idiom, or demonstrate intelligent hoax purpose. He wants us to get all his clues and thoughts, or why bother? <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) --> This may be one way (in the past) he meant for us to read between the lines... <!-- salbino/ -->albino/<!-- salbino/ --> If you spot something real, you KNOW <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> it. Kinda cool. <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ -->
I lied <!-- s:oops: -->:oops:<!-- s:oops: --> <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> , I have to say this, too. The FBI are good guys, pretty certain. The other guys have government oversight, but I think the FBI are actually independent of everyone. Seems like I read that. I'll have to look this up... The <!-- ssuspicious// -->suspicious//<!-- ssuspicious// --> other guys are used against them, to take them out, when one or a group of them stumble upon a major U.S. Government evil. Hmmm...how many agents died at Waco, from friendly fire??
Someone showed me a book once, that an FBI guy had written. It said on the cover, "If you are holding this book, I am dead." <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> (or something equally compelling) He explained in the book what he knew and why he would be killed.
And, he WAS dead, <!-- safraid/ -->afraid/<!-- safraid/ --> by then!!! My friend said she couldn't put it down, but I was too busy then to read it. I'll ask my friend about it, again. <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> The FBI is probably the most cerebral of ALL Law Enforcement. <!-- s8-) -->8-)<!-- s8-) --> They are cool.
Anyone who would bring litigation in regards to it after the fact? Just a guess.
the fact that these legal papers are fake are law responsability of those who officially empower that papers and not of civils. i'm not sure my english covered what i meant to explain here but i guess yyou'll understand my point.