<br />Quote from TS...TIAI Revealed...December 22nd, 2009 <br />
Why did God protect MJ, and not JFK, MLK, etc? Perhaps only God understands that fully; but it could well be that God has a special plan for MJ, in the final battle against the NWO. Maybe God has a mission for MJ, and has protected him from his enemies “for such a time as this” (Esther 4:14).
<br /><br />In his song They Don't Care About Us, he sang: <br />"I look to heaven to fulfill its prophecy... Set me free"<br />That verse is just stuck in my head, including:<br />"Beat me, hate me You can never break me Will me, thrill me You can never kill me"<br /><br />Michael also said in an interview waaay back, by Barbara Walters, that he believed himself to be psychic.<br /><br />Another thing, William Cooper said (this in the early 90`s maybe earlier) that there are many members of these secret socities that have turned on the agenda and many have also infiltrated the socities. Most of us know Michael is/was a Mason, and he did not like their Agenda. Not many masons actually know what the agenda really is and what they really do, but when you come to a surtain level in success more doors open.<br /><br />Can Michael have joined those who want to bring these bad people down?<br /><br />Infiltration have been made by fbi, police, media and artists and business men.<br />We see now more and more in the celebrity world that artists are starting to speak out, giving out hints on what is really going on. People who have been in the Game now choose to exit.<br /><br />Something big is going on.
Well ofcourse there had to be clues; how else would we know he's alive and how else would entrapment be avoided? Just because there are clues for those reasons, does not mean that everything else is to also add to the "illusion" or storyline. If there is no conspiracy nor ever was; was there also than no conspiracy against JKF, Princess Diana, MLK, John Lennon etc., which lead to their deaths? Or are all of those things just coincidences? Michael himself was in as much danger as those people and if the album covers and song meanings are for mere entertainment, than I supppose we can add his meeting in the WTC on 9/11 to that list? Tupac once said, "DON'T just bop your head to the beat, but listen to the lyrics and what artist's are saying and hold them accountable for it." He was not just speaking about his own songs, but others too. The conspiracy he spoke of, did it not exist? He too was almost killed by five gunshot wounds two years prior to his death. <br /><br /> Just as some on this site don't believe in GOD or The Bible, does not change the validity of either nor does it change the fact that MJ believes in both GOD and The Bible. Moreover, his belief in both are huge reasons for this hoax (EOW etc.). So, just like some don't believe in or understand the conspiracy does not change the fact that one exists, nor the fact that it plays a huge part in why he is faking his death. <br /><br /> Let's not forget that Michael's art imitated his life; not vice versa. Which is most likely the reason Paris mentioned "Moonwalker", being there were/are people after MJ and his assets, so he had to disappear only to return later. <br /><br /> I have realized that many now refuse to accept the reasons for the hoax and most likely never will. Just as people don't get the "why's" and some of the "how's" for the hoax now, I'm pretty sure many still won't even after BAM. How unfortunate, but true. <br /><br /> <br />
Just to add to the discussion on the "Blood On The Dancefloor" cover, the song sounds as if he is speaking on the price of fame and fortune. That the threat is "blood on the dancefloor", which is metaphorical. The album cover also shows who will be the ones to kill; the masons, with what appears to be 9/11 N.Y. skyline in the background. <br /><br /> And yes Magic_Love_4U , many police, F.B.I. Agents etc., are masons but not to infiltrate, but instead to help push the agenda. There also are good people within these organizations I'm sure, some who are helping MJ; unfortunately they are the minority.
<br /> Well ofcourse there had to be clues; how else would we know he's alive and how else would entrapment be avoided? Just because there are clues for those reasons, does not mean that everything else is to also add to the "illusion" or storyline. If there is no conspiracy nor ever was; was there also than no conspiracy against JKF, Princess Diana, MLK, John Lennon etc., which lead to their deaths? Or are all of those things just coincidences? Michael himself was in as much danger as those people and if the album covers and song meanings are for mere entertainment, than I supppose we can add his meeting in the WTC on 9/11 to that list? Tupac once said, "DON'T just bop your head to the beat, but listen to the lyrics and what artist's are saying and hold them accountable for it." He was not just speaking about his own songs, but others too. The conspiracy he spoke of, did it not exist? He too was almost killed by five gunshot wounds two years prior to his death. <br /><br /> Just as some on this site don't believe in GOD or The Bible, does not change the validity of either nor does it change the fact that MJ believes in both GOD and The Bible. Moreover, his belief in both are huge reasons for this hoax (EOW etc.). So, just like some don't believe in or understand the conspiracy does not change the fact that one exists, nor the fact that it plays a huge part in why he is faking his death. <br /><br /> Let's not forget that Michael's art imitated his life; not vise versa. Which is most likely the reason Paris mentioned "Moonwalker", being there were/are people after MJ and his assets, so he had to disappear only to return later. <br /><br /> I have realized that many now refuse to accept the reasons for the hoax and most likely never will. Just as people don't get the "why's" and some of the "how's" for the hoax now, I'm pretty sure many still won't even after BAM. How unfortunate, but true. <br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />I agree Suzy7<br /><br />This is of the reasons why at this time I have been re-reading the posts and updates by TS, especially the early ones from back in December 2009 and also the original posts by STUDY. I have found it really useful for my own reasons to go back over them.
Exactly Adi, over time we tend to forget or water down the more serious aspects of the hoax to fit our own ideas of what may be. Reading all of the updates by TS and STUDY are a good refresher for everyone to understand why exactly MJ is doing this.
<br /> Well ofcourse there had to be clues; how else would we know he's alive and how else would entrapment be avoided? Just because there are clues for those reasons, does not mean that everything else is to also add to the "illusion" or storyline. If there is no conspiracy nor ever was; was there also than no conspiracy against JKF, Princess Diana, MLK, John Lennon etc., which lead to their deaths? Or are all of those things just coincidences? Michael himself was in as much danger as those people and if the album covers and song meanings are for mere entertainment, than I supppose we can add his meeting in the WTC on 9/11 to that list? Tupac once said, "DON'T just bop your head to the beat, but listen to the lyrics and what artist's are saying and hold them accountable for it." He was not just speaking about his own songs, but others too. The conspiracy he spoke of, did it not exist? He too was almost killed by five gunshot wounds two years prior to his death. <br /><br /> Just as some on this site don't believe in GOD or The Bible, does not change the validity of either nor does it change the fact that MJ believes in both GOD and The Bible. Moreover, his belief in both are huge reasons for this hoax (EOW etc.). So,[size=14pt] just like some don't believe in or understand the conspiracy does not change the fact that one exists, nor the fact that it plays a huge part in why he is faking his death. [/size]<br /><br /> Let's not forget that Michael's art imitated his life; not vice versa. Which is most likely the reason Paris mentioned "Moonwalker", being there were/are people after MJ and his assets, so he had to disappear only to return later. <br /><br /> [size=14pt]I have realized that many now refuse to accept the reasons for the hoax and most likely never will. Just as people don't get the "why's" and some of the "how's" for the hoax now, I'm pretty sure many still won't even after BAM. How unfortunate, but true.[/size]<br />
[size=12pt]Are all these things just for art and entertainment, with no real threat? And even IF there was no real threat before such warnings were given: would not the warnings themselves generate a real danger? Would MJ put himself and his children in the cross-hairs of real danger, just for the sake of creating entertainment about a threat that was not real—that is, not real until the entertainment was created?<br /><br />Yes indeed, some people on this forum and elsewhere are having trouble understanding the how’s AND THE WHY’S of the hoax, because they are living in a fantasy hoax world: thinking that it’s all just fun and games, with multiple ambulances floating around in the sky—while not gripping the reality of the power and the agenda which exists in the underworld, and that they actually did try to take MJ out in the trade towers on 9-11 (but they failed). How can we be a united Army of Love, to stand up against their corrupt agendas, when so many of the soldiers think that it’s “All for E.N.T.E.R.T.A.I.N.M.E.N.T.”??? [/size]
<br /><br />To me TS was clear enough when he explained how in a big danger Michael was in and I'm having a hard time why some do not want to get it. I also don't get how some can think that Michael faked his entire life, such as his 2005 trials, the Pepsi commercial burn etc. This is not only about falling into a fantasy hoax world like TS says but also it is such a huge disrespectfulness to Michael. This issue is boiling my blood, so I'd better stop here. :evil:
<br /><br />To me TS was clear enough when he explained how in a big danger Michael was in and I'm having a hard time why some do not want to get it. I also don't get how some can think that Michael faked his entire life, such as his 2005 trials, the Pepsi commercial burn etc. This is not only about falling into a fantasy hoax world like TS says but also it is such a huge disrespectfulness to Michael. This issue is boiling my blood, so I'd better stop here. :evil: <br />
<br /><br />but purelove, we do know that he deliberately manipulated the media and everyone about who MJ is for years. so in some ways he did fake his life to a degree. dont let your blod boil hun. be happy ::P<br /><br />i dont agree that this is all just for a movie. i think a movie will be a major by product. but not the main reason. and although i 'think' i know what theory i have decided to go with, i still however really respect the views of others such as bec, gina, etc as they raise very interesting and valid points. i really value the differing opinions and actually want to see them... to the degree that i must confess, (@ bec ) i sometimes (though, very rarely) slightly am swayed towards movie theory at times... (damn, hate admitting that )<br /><br />i guess when you spend extended time in any of the theories and review their backing 'evidences' and become engrossed in it, then numerous theories can be plausible.<br /><br />only time will tell i guess. but til then at least all our conflicting opinions and theories are making us all look at this DH in the most thorough way possible from every angle...<br /><br />but please dont let your blood boil<br /><br /> bearhug<br /><br /><br />P.s - just wanted to say that i am still reading and love you all!
I say again, to me this is not clear.<br />If Michael was in such a danger, life-threatening danger, would he really:<br /><br />- Let his children freely go everywhere, like we've seen them since 2009 without masks, exposing them to such risks? Anything can happen to them.<br /><br />- Let his children on stage in Cardiff in front of 50.000 people if he received death threats? A shot can fire and kill the children, a bomb could explode, the stage could "accidentally" crush.<br /><br />- Let his children (Paris especially, as well as the other teenagers in the family like Donte, Randy Jr., Jaafar) to openly talk precisely about the ones that give the death threats, which are The Illuminati? They constantly speak about it, openly, they share photos, etc. Would he be that irresponsible to let them talk about it when everyone now knows it's her account? When he would know THEY can and have the possibility to harm her? being, after all, just a child who can be harmed anywhere on the street, kidnapped, even killed. How many were shot on the street so far?<br />
Jesus grew up amongst the religious leaders (such as Pharisees) who were the very ones to kill him.<br />Jesus grew up studying the Old Testament Scriptures and knew them well, and many times would say certain things were happening to fulfill certain words in them, or to make them come true. He also told Judas, "What you must do, do quickly." etc. He and God were putting plans and reality together into one.<br /><br /><br />MJ knows Scripture very well also, and does much other reading. For all we know Michael had/has a deep sense of awareness of what would/will happen to him. Michael's 20+ year hoax plans just happen to dovetail what God is planning and will do in his life. It could be that in the beginning MJ was not as aware as later, how much God was guiding his creativity and protecting him. Now he has utmost confidence that he and his children will be protected. So he and God are "creating" his reality, be it entertainment and actual danger. They say the safest place you can be, is in the centre of God's will.<br /><br /><br />I remember in one video of Seth Riggs, he said one time he left the room for a bit, and came back to find MJ standing there in a moment of earnest communication with God. He was saying something like, "God I thank you for giving me my talent. Whatever you want me to do, I will do it." He said that really struck him how humble a servant MJ was for God.
@Purelove I agree with what you wrote.<br /><br />
<br /><br />Regarding his children, for one let say Michael is alive, I bet that his children are well protected by family and security, plus that Paris is 13 and Prince is 14, they have a mind of their own. They are old enough to spread the message, now more than ever. We don't see Blanket tweeting, and he show up sometimes with his siblings and cousins, with the whole entourage.<br /><br />And if Michael is dead, well, the kids most likely want the truth to be known.<br />If someone killed my dad I would do the same.<br /><br />The children is old enough to KNOW!<br /><br />
<br /><br />What I said about FBI, police, business men etc being in the socities, I meant there ARE and some of them have infiltrated as the GOOD guys, and people on the inside are changing their paths to the good. It is shown right infront of our eyes, it is up to us to see it.<br /><br />I believe the majority is against their agenda, but the majority of the majority is to afraid to do anything about it.<br /><br />
I agree Magic_Love_4U, his children and the rest of his family are protected. I've said this before, but the fact that we've seen them *after* his "death" helps ensure their safety. With the worlds eyes on them, surely no *smart* criminals would try to harm them in any way; that would do nothing more than raise a huge amount of suspicion and questions. Furthermore, if the world and the criminals believe MJ is dead, why would they want to target his family? When has this ever happened before with any of the people who were also targets of a conspiracy (JKF is an exception)? MJ was their target, his children and any other family member were not; nor did they present themselves as being a great threat. And again, even if they were, harming them wouldn't be beneficial. Let's also give God some credit, whether you believe in his existence or not. Michael, myself and many here do and I'd like to think he is working to protect MJ and his family.<br /><br /> It seems many dismiss the idea of a real threat, merely because MJ laughed at the O2 press conference or his children are just living their lives. Really? Are they supposed to quiver in fear and hide under their beds? What kind of life is that? Should Michael have walked out on stage crying and sucking his thumb, looking over his shoulder? As if they didn't try to discredit him enough. I've mentioned other targets of the same conspiracy before, I don't recall them acting this way. Wouldn't you also laugh if you were outsmarting your enemies? His kids, just as any, deserve to be happy and live their lives as children.<br /><br /> I also agree Purelove, making every event a joke, or hoax, or just dismissing serious things all the time is over doing it. Yes we should be open-minded and view things from all perspectives, but we should also remain logical. Imagination and reason can be used simultaneously. There is a saying: "Be open-minded; but not so open-minded your brain falls on the floor... ".
Old but relevant study (taken from a book of the same name) concerning the "Woman" & the "Beast of Revelation"... Let's remember Babylon is a REAL place; then and now. The Beast is both an Economic System and a FALSE RELIGIOUS SYSTEM. There are plans to move the UN to Babylon. The US has even bought land there. Talk about ironic. <br /><br /><br /><br />Here's Pt 1 of an updated video covering this:
It is indeed Gina lol. And I agree MsTrinity333, it is a strange "coincidence". I also think people interpret the "beast" as being literal, when it appears to be describing the system as you said.
<br /> It is indeed Gina lol. And I agree MsTrinity333, it is a strange "coincidence". I also think people interpret the "beast" as being literal, when it appears to be describing the system as you said.<br />
<br /><br />Thank you Suzy7 bearhug<br />Here's Pt 1/5 of another great discussion on it:
<br /> I agree Magic_Love_4U, his children and the rest of his family are protected. I've said this before, but the fact that we've seen them *after* his "death" helps ensure their safety. With the worlds eyes on them, surely no *smart* criminals would try to harm them in any way; that would do nothing more than raise a huge amount of suspicion and questions. Furthermore, if the world and the criminals believe MJ is dead, why would they want to target his family? When has this ever happened before with any of the people who were also targets of a conspiracy (JKF is an exception)? MJ was their target, his children and any other family member were not; nor did they present themselves as being a great threat. And again, even if they were, harming them wouldn't be beneficial. Let's also give God some credit, whether you believe in his existence or not. Michael, myself and many here do and I'd like to think he is working to protect MJ and his family.<br /><br />It seems many dismiss the idea of a real threat, merely because MJ laughed at the O2 press conference or his children are just living their lives. Really? Are they supposed to quiver in fear and hide under their beds? What kind of life is that? Should Michael have walked out on stage crying and sucking his thumb, looking over his shoulder? As if they didn't try to discredit him enough. I've mentioned other targets of the same conspiracy before, I don't recall them acting this way. Wouldn't you also laugh if you were outsmarting your enemies? His kids, just as any, deserve to be happy and live their lives as children.<br /><br />I also agree Purelove, making every event a joke, or hoax, or just dismissing serious things all the time is over doing it. Yes we should be open-minded and view things from all perspectives, but we should also remain logical. Imagination and reason can be used simultaneously. There is a saying: "Be open-minded; but not so open-minded your brain falls on the floor... ".<br />
<br /><br />/bravo/<br /><br />Love it! Thank you Suzy7 for speaking up. I also think that the best thing to do is show your enemy that they are not winning. Show them they have no power over you. By doing that it takes all the energy that would be there from negativity totally away. The family is no different speaking out against TPTB than any one of us here. If the family would be in danger by speaking out than so are we. TPTB are not discriminating here, we ALL are in DANGER. <br /><br />Many are frustrated and think there is nothing that can be done because they think TPTB are so powerful we have no strength against them. We are VERY POWERFUL in numbers. We are very powerful in knowledge. The mere fact that we know about their agenda takes away their power. We can live in the world but not be of the world. I do not let TPTB dictate my life and whether or not I will be happy and free.<br /><br />The way one lives their life is a matter of perspective and mindset. I see change happening all around me every day. I see resistance to TPTB. One example is Occupy Portland where I live. Those people have not layed down and cried and allowed TPTB to dictate to them. Those people are brave and they are letting their voices be heard.<br /><br />Power to the people.
<br /> I agree Magic_Love_4U, his children and the rest of his family are protected. I've said this before, but the fact that we've seen them *after* his "death" helps ensure their safety. With the worlds eyes on them, surely no *smart* criminals would try to harm them in any way; that would do nothing more than raise a huge amount of suspicion and questions. Furthermore, if the world and the criminals believe MJ is dead, why would they want to target his family? When has this ever happened before with any of the people who were also targets of a conspiracy (JKF is an exception)? MJ was their target, his children and any other family member were not; nor did they present themselves as being a great threat. And again, even if they were, harming them wouldn't be beneficial. Let's also give God some credit, whether you believe in his existence or not. Michael, myself and many here do and I'd like to think he is working to protect MJ and his family.<br /><br />It seems many dismiss the idea of a real threat, merely because MJ laughed at the O2 press conference or his children are just living their lives. Really? Are they supposed to quiver in fear and hide under their beds? What kind of life is that? Should Michael have walked out on stage crying and sucking his thumb, looking over his shoulder? As if they didn't try to discredit him enough. I've mentioned other targets of the same conspiracy before, I don't recall them acting this way. Wouldn't you also laugh if you were outsmarting your enemies? His kids, just as any, deserve to be happy and live their lives as children.<br /><br />I also agree Purelove, making every event a joke, or hoax, or just dismissing serious things all the time is over doing it. Yes we should be open-minded and view things from all perspectives, but we should also remain logical. Imagination and reason can be used simultaneously. There is a saying: "Be open-minded; but not so open-minded your brain falls on the floor... ".<br />
<br /><br />/bravo/<br /><br />Love it! Thank you Suzy7 for speaking up. I also think that the best thing to do is show your enemy that they are not winning. Show them they have no power over you. By doing that it takes all the energy that would be there from negativity totally away. The family is no different speaking out against TPTB than any one of us here. If the family would be in danger by speaking out than so are we. TPTB are not discriminating here, we ALL are in DANGER. <br /><br />Many are frustrated and think there is nothing that can be done because they think TPTB are so powerful we have no strength against them. We are VERY POWERFUL in numbers. We are very powerful in knowledge. The mere fact that we know about their agenda takes away their power. We can live in the world but not be of the world. I do not let TPTB dictate my life and whether or not I will be happy and free.<br /><br />The way one lives their life is a matter of perspective and mindset. I see change happening all around me every day. I see resistance to TPTB. One example is Occupy Portland where I live. Those people have not layed down and cried and allowed TPTB to dictate to them. Those people are brave and they are letting their voices be heard.<br /><br />[size=12pt]Power to the people[/size]. <br />
This quote "while not gripping the reality of the power and the agenda which exists in the underworld, and that they actually did try to take MJ out in the trade towers on 9-11 (but they failed)." to me is what I would call Fantasy hoax world.<br /><br />Why on earth are you, TS, connecting that event with wanting to get MJ out??? The reasons for that event to happen were much more complicated than that.<br /><br />Michael has nothing to do with that event. That is the least he needs in his resume, being responsible for the death of those in the towers that day.
Well said Im_convinced and Susie, and I like the empowerment lol. The point is to be educated because education is awareness, thus it does not have to equate fear. We should and can all live our lives happily and having fun, pursuing our goals etc., but take with us our knowledge. Knowledge is a powerful tool as they say and the best weapon to have is our mind. <br /><br /> MsTrinity333, those videos were good and I recommend people watch the first one you posted titled: God TV and The United Nations. He spoke perfectly about the NWO agenda being implemented by the U.N. Jehovah's Witnesses have the same take on the "beast" mentioned in Revelation; they also have a DVD I've watched that connects the ancient religions of Babylon to modern day world governments and religions. It is very much about the system rather than an actual beast interpreted by many. <br /><br /> When he spoke about the U.N.'s agenda being Occult Theocracy and global order, it reminded me of the occultic phrase "as above, so below". This man-made, earthly agenda obviously opposes The Bibles wishes as the King James Version reads "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven." Given they (our world leaders) do everything in opposition of God, our one world religion--Occult Theocracy-- will be just that. So, the agenda will be a "kingdom on earth" but under a Luciferian religion with the belief that "All is One, All is Divine; everything and everyone is God". The Bible shows us Lucifer promised Adam and Eve the similar lie by saying "Ye shall be as gods". To summarize, this lie told by Lucifer and taught by our leaders represents the Great Apostasy, the falling away which was prophesied in The Book of Revelation.<br /><br />I forgot to add bearhug to you too MsTrinity
MissG, MJ is not at all "responsible" for 9/11. The point being is that it was a planned event, and they had planned on "killing two birds with one stone" by attempting to kill Michael that day too. He is connected to that event as he had a meeting in the WTC the morning of 9/11.
<br /> MissG, MJ is not at all "responsible" for 9/11. The point being is that it was a planned event, and they had planned on "killing two birds with one stone" by attempting to kill Michael that day too. He is connected to that event as he had a meeting in the WTC the morning of 9/11.<br />
<br /><br />Yes, it was a planned event but with another aim. I don´t believe the "killing 2 birds" theory/ conspiracy.
<br /> MissG, MJ is not at all "responsible" for 9/11. The point being is that it was a planned event, and they had planned on "killing two birds with one stone" by attempting to kill Michael that day too. He is connected to that event as he had a meeting in the WTC the morning of 9/11.<br />
<br /><br />Yes, it was a planned event but with another aim. I don´t believe the "killing 2 birds" theory/ conspiracy.<br />
<br /><br />I have it in my head that I read something saying one of Michael's people were supposed to be at that meeting, not Michael himself. <br /><br />I will now go try to find where I read it. Jerm's book perhaps, idk... <br /><br />
I see MissG. <br />@Heartsong It was allegedly supposed to be with Frank Cascio...I have no time to find the exact quote right now but I'll be back later unless you find it first.
I think I'm pretty grounded in reality and my brain is intact inside my cranium, thank you. But no matter. I am teflon. Shit shall not stick.<br /><br />Re: the current topic, the '9/11 was designed to [also] take out MJ' theory contains a pretty tall accusation. I'd like to see substantiation that MJ was indeed scheduled to be there before accepting the theory as plausible.
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<br /><br />Regarding his children, for one let say Michael is alive, I bet that his children are well protected by family and security, plus that Paris is 13 and Prince is 14, they have a mind of their own. They are old enough to spread the message, now more than ever. We don't see Blanket tweeting, and he show up sometimes with his siblings and cousins, with the whole entourage.<br /><br />And if Michael is dead, well, the kids most likely want the truth to be known.<br />If someone killed my dad I would do the same.<br /><br />The children is old enough to KNOW!<br /><br />
<br /><br />What I said about FBI, police, business men etc being in the socities, I meant there ARE and some of them have infiltrated as the GOOD guys, and people on the inside are changing their paths to the good. It is shown right infront of our eyes, it is up to us to see it.<br /><br />I believe the majority is against their agenda, but the majority of the majority is to afraid to do anything about it.<br /><br />