<br />@Thriller4ever: if Paris was doing those signs with some occult meaning, then it wouldn't make sense why last year she had posted so many twits against the NWO and Illuminati.<br /><br />And even more recently, last week this:<br /><br /><br />
<br /><br />and that's where I get suspicious...because the signs she is showing are (atleast according to the prevailing terms) illuminati, and yet there are such tweets...but i know for sure that those hand signs do not hold any positive meanings...
<br />@Thriller4ever: if Paris was doing those signs with some occult meaning, then it wouldn't make sense why last year she had posted so many twits against the NWO and Illuminati.<br />
<br /><br />I can't help but think that there may be two sides to the Illuminati, thus the white and black checkerboard. After all, Michael did dance on the checkerboard. Perhaps all these Illuminati signs from people we believe to be on our side - like Beyonce and Michele Obama - are merely signs that they are 'in the game.' <br /><br />The bottom line is I completely trust Michael and if Paris makes a sign, I am certain there is nothing malevolent behind it.<br />
<br /><br /> :th_bravo:<br />Through all of this, Paris is still a teenager......she seems to like to take on many different looks and styles......she's beautiful. All in all, I don't believe she is intentionally showing anything negative. I know the "I love you" sign very, very well......though it usually points outward, in this case she could simply be saying "I love me"......in a very styled, very Paris fashion way. I definitely believe it's of the "love variety" anyways : ) <br /><br />Wasn't there a Front hand, or "I love you" sign a while ago? Or am I thinking of just that right hand? <br /><br />LOVE
Sim, that's not misinterpretation...what I'm saying is everywhere....and it's true. :icon_cool:<br /><br />and I've personally believed that Michael's dance overall was anti-TPTB ..so dancing on masonic floor wouldn't mean he's with them...it'd be telling he's not with them. <br />And Paris, being an informer must surely be having some or the other idea about the institution that her dad is opposing...we cannot say as she's a teenager, she's just adopting styles...whatever she's doing can be perceived accordingly in the hoax and i think she's well aware of that. She must also be knowing that the hands signs are not positive.<br /><br />@wishing, some of the things we think we know very well may have their roots buried deep in something evil...the 'I love you' could just have been a cover-up to promoting an evil sign... JMO , plastering a positive message on an evil origin...<br /><br />and that sometimes makes me doubt as someone on this forum (sorry I don't remember who) posted...that Michael can be involved with the illuminati (which i don't and don't want to believe) :icon_bounce:<br /><br />@Sim , if someone is talking something against them doesn't necessarily mean the himself has to be against it :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />I am only being open to 'N' number of possibilities ..... :icon_lol:
<br /><br /><br />Tony Bennett, the legendary Jazz Icon, will receive a Lifetime Achievement Award on the big night for his incredible record sales and outstanding contribution to music. He will perform one of his Latin duets [size=14pt]with a surprise guest star[/size]. <br /><br />
<br /><br />Any guesses on whom that "surprise GUEST star " might be ? could it be Michael ? ( I don't wanna get my hopes up ) <br /><br />@ Sim , u're right ! the "I love you" has the thumb completely extended without putting it over the bent fingers , it's confusing and it requires too much observation and that's exactly why people misinterpret it as a develish sign ! <br /><br />This <br /><br />is obviously not this <br /><br /><br />Even Liz Taylor did it ! <br /><br /><br />love
I am getting EXCITED about this talk of 12-21/12-22.... Seems like that is what <br />everything is pointing to. I hope it is for sure. I love the clock and the firetruck screen<br />with those dates\numbers. Also about the WMAs it very well could be a nice time for MJ<br />to BAM on a world stage where there would be a lot of viewers and also are they in the <br />Netherlands? If so didn't front show us a pic where he had on an Amsterdam shirt? And as for<br />the people who keep saying ohhhh I can't see that as the BAM etc etc I mean COME ON PEOPLE <br />that is IMPOSSIBLE to comprehend AT ALL so trying to understand when and how MJ will BAM<br />and saying that's not it I can't see that being BAM well let me ask you... WHAT DO YOU THINK<br />it is gonna be????? I am DEFY interested in hearing..... I am sitting back waiting and being patient enjoying<br />and looking back on our time spent here with each other and I hope we see the BAM soon.
<br />[...]<br />@Sim , if someone is talking something against them doesn't necessarily mean the himself has to be against it :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />I am only being open to 'N' number of possibilities ..... :icon_lol:
gwynned: not all Masons are evil. We know Michael has high influential friends... some of them might be willing to help! that's how Michael was always so well informed about everything! Then Paris also wore that t-shirt with the number 33 on it. So what? Does that necessarily mean it's because of some evil force ruling her?<br />Maybe some of these signs sent by both Michael and Paris are deliberate!! to tease/disturb "them" !
Australian, my post didnt have becs name in it, and had nothing to do with bec. I keep seeing people saying they're losing faith in Michael's bam, and we're only being played with. ALL the evidence we recieve has pointed to a bam, we were even told by TS. That's all I was saying.... <br /><br />Anyways. The picture comparisons are very interesting! And why would they cancel the awards show because of the Sandy Hook tragedy, just 2 days before the awards show? Seems a bit weird.. :icon_e_confused:
<br />[...]<br />@Sim , if someone is talking something against them doesn't necessarily mean the himself has to be against it :icon_e_wink:<br /><br />I am only being open to 'N' number of possibilities ..... :icon_lol:
<br />I know what you mean.<br />But what puzzles me here is this: the Illuminati are known to desperately protect their SECRECY! that's why they're called Secret societies", that's why they have their hidden codes and signs, known only to them. They also swear to guard this secrecy with their own life. So why would they send TS here to spill the beans for us?<br /><br />
<br /><br /><br />The TPTB thing is known to many people here on the internet who are interested in such kinds of subjects...but they CHOOSE not to be believe... cause they consider it a "theory" irrespective of all the facts right in front of their eyes...this is illuminati's greatest strength..- people don't really see even when they are seeing...<br /><br />
Maybe some of these signs sent by both Michael and Paris are deliberate!! to tease/disturb "them" !
<br /><br />Could be...but Paris's message to them has not been so deliberate as Michael's and that's why still leaving a chance that Paris is somewhere voluntarily or involuntarily 'controlled' ...<br /><br />we can't really know anything about this hoax until it ends and an explanation is being given by Michael....this whole hoax is a puzzle, so we don't really know where this illuminati thing fits in....<br /><br />so i guess this kind of discussions always ends where it starts... LOL!<br /><br />anyways...my net connection is REALLY slow right now and it's way too late...good night!
<br />That is WEIRD for sure! <br />I wonder why they decided only now to cancel WMA 2012 for the Sandy Hook victims? Why not that day or the next days , immediately after? Why did they wait till now? :animal0017:<br /><br />Tks Sarahli! <br />
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<br />Maybe we should wait for more confirmations to know if it's really cancelled; just saw that they don't mention anything on their twitter: https://twitter.com/WMAsofficial<br />
I was just typing that my niece is deaf, so I learned the sign language.<br />As Wishingstar post above, is how "we" say "I Love You".<br />But pictures says it better, thanks Wishing<br /><br />
<br /><br />^^ This post about TRUTH coming after Sarahli's post about WMA being cancelled.... and now taking into account that so many hours later, the 3 official pages have not yet confirmed this "news", makes me think we are being TESTED!<br />Don't believe everything you hear in the news...<br /><br />i checked on Google... so far the only sites that claim this "news" are 2 random blogs and a Canadian site where there is a Justin Bieber ( :icon_albino: ) pic!<br /><br />Just sayin ' !
<br /> :errrr: :icon_e_confused: <br /><br />Sounds like you got it all figured out, bec: Front is a fake, which would mean that Paris, Jermaine, La Toya, the official MJ FB page, the handwritten notes, etc. etc. are also fake--- and yep, MJ did indeed depart from this world on June 25, 2009. <br /><br />:icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />…..although I seriously doubt that you honestly believe any of that.<br /><br />It's clear that you have misinterpreted my words--- AGAIN--- after reading your previous post…..hence the magnifying glass---NOT because you haven't "tried hard enough" in the past 3+ years. <br /><br />Get back on the horse--both literally & figuratively. We both know you can--- and WILL. <br /><br />Don't lose your faith in MJ now…..not now.<br />
<br /><br />Ok let's make this clear. I will never lose faith in MJ. It's that faith that, before all this craziness and bullshit, led me down this path in the first place. MJ didn't die like that. He didn't die a weirdo drug addict down n out and strung out. He didn't die pathetic and at his wits end, scared and desperate. That's not MJ. That's laughable. All that garbage is bullshit and I reject it. Always have and always will. I don't give a shit what "new development" breaks or what "insider close to the source" says to which hair-gel-ed plastic spaztic on the boob-toob. <br /><br />YOU, on the other hand, :suspect: are a WHOLE nother ball o wax, my friend.<br /><br />Pray tell, how are you interpreting my distrust of you and your team as losing faith in MJ? Or do you need your very own magnifying glass?<br /><br />We are very gentle, open minded and loyal people who seek only to see MJ vindicated. Do you understand that we really truly believe you may be MJ? TS was kind enough to lay it on the table years ago and assert that he is NOT MJ. At least he was forthcoming. You post web cam-style pics that suggest you are He. You post hoaxy hand written notes that appear to be MJ's own handwriting. You word your posts in a way that strongly suggest you are MJ talking in 3rd person. Then you say you CARE about us, each and every one of us. Do you understand the implications of what you are suggesting? Don't you get it? How badly we want to believe? Pretty damn bad, Front, REAL damn bad.<br /><br />Blah blah la la yeah I know.
:th_bravo: :smiley_abuv:<br /><br />Bec, I love you and your straight out comments, thank you for that!<br />I wish I look more like you, just wonderfull!
<br /> :errrr: :icon_e_confused: <br /><br />Sounds like you got it all figured out, bec: Front is a fake, which would mean that Paris, Jermaine, La Toya, the official MJ FB page, the handwritten notes, etc. etc. are also fake--- and yep, MJ did indeed depart from this world on June 25, 2009. <br /><br />:icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />…..although I seriously doubt that you honestly believe any of that.<br /><br />It's clear that you have misinterpreted my words--- AGAIN--- after reading your previous post…..hence the magnifying glass---NOT because you haven't "tried hard enough" in the past 3+ years. <br /><br />Get back on the horse--both literally & figuratively. We both know you can--- and WILL. <br /><br />Don't lose your faith in MJ now…..not now.<br />
<br /><br />Ok let's make this clear. I will never lose faith in MJ. It's that faith that, before all this craziness and bullshit, led me down this path in the first place. MJ didn't die like that. He didn't die a weirdo drug addict down n out and strung out. He didn't die pathetic and at his wits end, scared and desperate. That's not MJ. That's laughable. All that garbage is bullshit and I reject it. Always have and always will. I don't give a shit what "new development" breaks or what "insider close to the source" says to which hair-gel-ed plastic spaztic on the boob-toob. <br /><br />YOU, on the other hand, :suspect: are a WHOLE nother ball o wax, my friend.<br /><br />Pray tell, how are you interpreting my distrust of you and your team as losing faith in MJ? Or do you need your very own magnifying glass?<br /><br />[size=12pt]We are very gentle, open minded and loyal people who seek only to see MJ vindicated.[/size] Do you understand that we really truly believe [size=12pt]you may be MJ[/size]? TS was kind enough to lay it on the table years ago and assert that he is NOT MJ. At least he was forthcoming. You post web cam-style pics that suggest you are He. You post hoaxy hand written notes that appear to be MJ's own handwriting. You word your posts in a way that strongly suggest you are MJ talking in 3rd person. Then you say you CARE about us, each and every one of us. Do you understand the implications of what you are suggesting? Don't you get it? How badly we want to believe? Pretty damn bad, Front, REAL damn bad.<br /><br />Blah blah la la yeah I know.<br />
<br /><br />Bec, you are one of a kind . I truly mean that . You said what I , for one , can't say even though I wanted to so badly . It's so brave of you to have cleverly spelt it all out ! <br />I know how you're feeling , a lot of us have been there at a certain point of time . But the thing is , I don't really think that Front would be ever able to answer / clarify the misteries surrounding him for three reasons : <br /><br />1- If he is Michael ==> Do you really expect him to announce it ? " You know what guys , I'm sick and tired of all of your questions , I am Michael , okay , everybody calm down alright !!!" <br /><br />2- If he is an insider ==> It would be very hard for him to declare it in here because this is , afer all , a public forum . And ANYONE can have access to what's being told / discussed . <br /><br />3 - If he is a fake , and is here only to play with our minds ==> Are we going to believe him when he tells us so ? I doubt so for he managed to make us trust in him . <br /><br />You wanna know what I think ? A lot of people may be MJ , and I mean A LOT ! When it comes to a public forum , everyone can be whoever they want to be . For someone who only wanted to be himself all his life , it would be easy for him in here . Covered under nicknameS , who would ever suspect him of being Michael ? <br />Why should Front be an object of doubt while no one of us is ? is it because he's trying to hold our hands while we're walking through a dark path ? is it because he's been helpful throughout this journey ? or is it because we're just afraid and insecure ? <br /><br />I don't know maybe I am just talking nonsense again . <br /><br />love
<br /><br />[size=14pt]Makes me think of this...[/size]<br /><br />http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/11/us-jackson-tribute-idUSTRE58723B20090911<br /><br />[size=16pt]Organizers cancel Jackson Vienna tribute concert[/size]<br /><br /> VIENNA | Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:25pm EDT<br /><br />(Reuters) - A Michael Jackson tribute concert planned in Vienna this month has been canceled and the event will be staged in Britain next year, organizers said on Friday.<br /><br />Michael's brother Jermaine Jackson had struggled to get R&B stars Mary J. Blige and Chris Brown and veteran singer Natalie Cole to confirm they could perform at the September 26 concert.<br /><br />"Due to the short time frame it was not possible for many of them to change their schedule so that they could be on stage in Vienna on September 26, therefore we decided, after careful consideration, to change the date of the tribute concert to the summer 2010," Jermaine Jackson said in a statement issued in London.<br /><br />World Awards Media, who are promoting the event, said in a joint statement with Jermaine Jackson that the exact venue in Britain and the date would be announced shortly.<br /><br />Jermaine Jackson said many artists had wanted to join the tribute to his brother and that Britain was a fitting venue as Michael had been planning a series of concerts there.<br /><br />Organizer Georg Kindel earlier blamed negative treatment by the Austrian media for the cancellation and told reporters that the tribute would be held at Wembley Stadium in London in June 2010, to mark the first anniversary of Jackson's death.<br /><br />"The artists were disrespectfully treated as B-list artists by the media," Kindel said, adding that tickets for the Vienna concert will be refunded.<br /><br />BIG NAMES MISSING<br /><br />U.S. representatives for Blige, Brown and Cole said on Thursday that none of the three would perform in Vienna, contrary to statements by the concert organizers.<br /><br />This left only lesser-known performers such as Sister Sledge, best known for a 30-year-old dance track, "We Are Family."<br /><br />Vienna city council said earlier on Friday it would not support the concert after realizing the show would not bring in as much advertising revenues as initially expected.<br /><br />Organizers had hoped the city would provide up to 600,000 euros ($876,200) in funding for the event at the capital's 17th century Schoenbrunn palace.<br /><br />"A cancellation is better than something that is bad and that doesn't interest anyone," said Robert Nuernberger, spokesman for the Vienna tourist board.<br /><br />Organizers had expected artists to reinterpret Jackson's greatest hits including "Billie Jean", "Thriller" and "Bad", in front of an audience of 65,000.
<br /> :errrr: :icon_e_confused: <br /><br />Sounds like you got it all figured out, bec: Front is a fake, which would mean that Paris, Jermaine, La Toya, the official MJ FB page, the handwritten notes, etc. etc. are also fake--- and yep, MJ did indeed depart from this world on June 25, 2009. <br /><br />:icon_rolleyes:<br /><br />…..although I seriously doubt that you honestly believe any of that.<br /><br />It's clear that you have misinterpreted my words--- AGAIN--- after reading your previous post…..hence the magnifying glass---NOT because you haven't "tried hard enough" in the past 3+ years. <br /><br />Get back on the horse--both literally & figuratively. We both know you can--- and WILL. <br /><br />Don't lose your faith in MJ now…..not now.<br />
<br /><br />Ok let's make this clear. I will never lose faith in MJ. It's that faith that, before all this craziness and bullshit, led me down this path in the first place. MJ didn't die like that. He didn't die a weirdo drug addict down n out and strung out. He didn't die pathetic and at his wits end, scared and desperate. That's not MJ. That's laughable. All that garbage is bullshit and I reject it. Always have and always will. I don't give a shit what "new development" breaks or what "insider close to the source" says to which hair-gel-ed plastic spaztic on the boob-toob. <br /><br />YOU, on the other hand, :suspect: are a WHOLE nother ball o wax, my friend.<br /><br />Pray tell, how are you interpreting my distrust of you and your team as losing faith in MJ? Or do you need your very own magnifying glass?<br /><br />We are very gentle, open minded and loyal people who seek only to see MJ vindicated. Do you understand that we really truly believe you may be MJ? TS was kind enough to lay it on the table years ago and assert that he is NOT MJ. At least he was forthcoming. You post web cam-style pics that suggest you are He. You post hoaxy hand written notes that appear to be MJ's own handwriting. You word your posts in a way that strongly suggest you are MJ talking in 3rd person. Then you say you CARE about us, each and every one of us. Do you understand the implications of what you are suggesting? Don't you get it? How badly we want to believe? Pretty damn bad, Front, REAL damn bad.<br /><br />Blah blah la la yeah I know.<br />
<br /><br />You know, a couple of months ago (before I read that Front didn't respond on PM) I have send him a sort of the same message <br />I thought (and think) that he is "working" with feelings of many people.<br />I told him in the message to use those feelings well.<br />If he is MJ fine, but when is isn't. I thought he have to say that, or at least don't give "us" the feeling he is.<br /><br />But, as I said, afterwards I've read that he don't do Personal Messages. So, I'm glad you said the same thing now
<br />Hey Everlast how are ya? Good to see your posts again.<br /><br />About a possible BAM at the WMA; In my opinion I don't think so, it didn't happen with the CDS, so why the WMA? BAMMING there will not show the seriousness of the hoax plus this hoax has been going for more than 3 years and to end the BAM at a music award seems like such a short coming and just not right. But that doesn't mean MJ WON'T BAM that day.<br /><br />
<br /><br />Thanks UYI i'm okay, just been busy, family, work, some volunteering & being here too. How about you? Are you on vacation in LA? Did i get that right? If so, cool!! Are you making a California round trip? Have a great vacation!<br /><br />About the VMA; quite possible that MJ will make sure that there will be a major clue on stage during the show, something like the big spider of TII which is just walking by :animal0017: No MJ who jumps out (yet), just the spider :icon_cool: wow that would be quite a hint (to us beLIEvers ;D ) to hold on and a sign that MJ's return will be there soon :michael-jackson: :animal0017: :affraid: :icon_geek:<br /><br /><br />@Wishingstar: indeed an oreo fortune cookie! :icon_lol: priceless! May it bring good fortune these days and for the next year.<br /><br />LOVE
Ok vamos a aclarar esto. Yo nunca perder la fe en MJ. Es esa fe que, antes de toda esta locura y estupidez, me llevó por este camino en el primer lugar. MJ no murió así. No murió un drogadicto bicho raro por n out y encadenan a cabo. No murió patético y en su extremo de los ingenios, asustado y desesperado. Eso no es MJ. Eso es ridículo. Todo lo que la basura es basura y lo rechazo. Tenga siempre y siempre existirá. Me importa una mierda lo que "novedad" rompe o lo que "privilegiada cerca de la fuente", dice a la cual el pelo-gel-ed spaztic de plástico en la teta-toob. USTED, por el contrario, son un todo tro pelota o cera, amigo mío. dígame, ¿cómo interpretar mi desconfianza de usted y su equipo como la pérdida de la fe en MJ? ¿O necesita su lupa propia? Estamos muy suaves, gente de mente abierta y leal que buscan sólo para ver a MJ reivindicado. ¿Entiende usted que realmente realmente cree que puede ser MJ? TS fue lo suficientemente amable para ponerla sobre la mesa hace años y afirmar que él no es MJ. Al menos él se acercaba. Si envías web cam pics estilo que sugiere que Él es. Usted enviar notas escritas a mano hoaxy que parecen ser puño y letra de Michael Jackson. Usted palabra sus mensajes en una manera que recomendamos insistentemente que son MJ hablando en tercera persona. Entonces usted dice que se preocupan por nosotros, todos y cada uno de nosotros. ¿Entiende las implicaciones de lo que usted sugiere? ¿No lo entiendes? Qué mal que queremos creer? Muy muy malo, frente, REAL maldito mal. Bla, bla, la, la, sí lo sé.<br />
<br /><br />Bec, blunt as always, in your thoughts, it was very clear.<br /><br /><br />Sim, I was also looking WMA and no official confirmation, Hmmm very rare :suspect: (off topic: Come on girl, their participation is 100% no thought to get some fresh air :thjajaja121: ?) Love you!<br /><br /><br />Front, why "Wishing all a (necessary early) very Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!" Advance? OK I wish for you that Christmas will find it surrounded by love and peace, along with their loved ones.<br /><br />Thank pepper, bring to mind, I hope so cancellation is not a momentary signal "Bam cancellation" <br /> :Pulling_hair:
@marum your spanglish :icon_lol:<br /><br />@everlasting the WMAs have been canceled.<br /><br />Everybody is reading here so I post it here again as I have already posted on TIAI Dec 20:<br /><br /><br />I tried to purchase a ticket and it said: this event is not currently available for sale on line, try to contact customer service, I contacted them and I got this:<br /><br />Order Tracking (KMM2186773V49536L0KM)<br />Hello Raquel,<br /><br />Thank you for contacting Tickets.com.<br />Unfortunately we do not have information at this time. Please continue<br />to check back with us.<br />Thank you for visiting Tickets.com.<br /><br />Lena<br />Consumer Services<br /><br />Customer Name: RAQUEL<br />Email: <br />Phone number: 673455675 (it's false, lol)<br />Event Name: WMA<br />Venue Name: MARLINS<br />Performance Date: 12/22/2012<br />
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