Andrea<br />Your comment reminded me of a Star Trek episode (showing my nerdiness here) called "Who Mourns for Adonais?" about a powerful alien claiming he is the Greek god Apollo and he holds members of the Enterprise captive to worship him. I think that's interesting considering Star Trek predicted so much of the technology that we are currently using. Also makes me think of the Mark Twain quote "Truth is stranger than fiction." Here's a preview of that episode:<br /><br /><br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Mourns_for_Adonais?<br />
<br /><br />Thanks for posting Andrea. It seems like there are some elements of truth in these shows and movies. What part is real, What part is fake ? The line between science fiction and real is becoming cloudy. I think the "truth" will be stranger than science fiction. I think the big unveiling of the truth is coming. The Apocalypse. "All we have to do is reach for the truth". I got that from the song "Cry".
I really don't get it why people are taking off like rockets on a "BAM now". Appears to be like a drug.<br /><br />We have some lawsuits unclosed and we have some business deals unfinished.<br />It makes absolutely no sense that anybody should cease this tremendous endeavor untimely just because it's sentimental journey time.<br /><br />Never ever has MJ interfered with official festivity dates.<br />He will not have others take any cream from his pie.
Honestly I don’t see this thread as a competition about who Front likes the most. Not at all. TS gave us a deadline and redirected to at least 2 posts mentioning BAM in a clear manner so I guess it’s only natural if some hoaxers are eager to “play the game” and try to find out when it is going to happen. If nothing happens well nothing happens. I believe it’s all in God’s Hands before all. It’s obvious that there is a lot of excitement as more people have been posting, new members included. But I don't see it as a "competition" about who likes who, maybe a competition about who will get the BAM date right. :LolLolLolLol:
<br /> The light of the world? I don't think you should call Michael that. Maybe I'm being a bit over religious but I dont think you should consider another human, who cuts in bleeds in that sense at all.<br />
I was PARAPHRASING the first lyrics of the song "This Is It" <br /><br />
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<br />@ashprak247: What you posted fits with the news about Jermaine changing his name into [size=12pt]JackSUN[/size]<br />and also with the [size=12pt]Apollo (Sun GOD) [/size]connections!!<br /><br />The SUN = The LIGHT of the world! ---> [size=12pt]"This is IT! Here I stand! I'm the LIGHT of the World, I feel grand!"[/size]<br /><br />OMG! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />
<br />I really don't get it why people are taking off like rockets on a "BAM now". Appears to be like a drug.<br /><br />We have some lawsuits unclosed and we have some business deals unfinished.<br />It makes absolutely no sense that anybody should cease this tremendous endeavor untimely just because it's sentimental journey time.<br /><br />Never ever has MJ interfered with official festivity dates.<br />He will not have others take any cream from his pie.<br />
<br /><br />I think it doesn't prevent anyone from investigating and sharing any new finding in the threads of course. The subjects shift very quickly and I'm sure if anyone came up with some new stuff to look into it would be looked at. Obviously not everyone is focused on the BAM. :icon_e_wink:
<br />Honestly I don’t see this thread as a competition about who Front likes the most. Not at all. TS gave us a deadline and redirected to at least 2 posts mentioning BAM in a clear manner so I guess it’s only natural if some hoaxers are eager to “play the game” and try to find out when it is going to happen. If nothing happens well nothing happens. I believe it’s all in God’s Hands before all.<br />[....]
@Sim, you do have a great way of making connections with pictures and photos. I didn't realize that the video for "You Are Not Alone " was supposed to be at the temple of Apollo. It does look similar though. "You Are Not Alone" can take on many meanings. Another one being "You Are Not Alone on the planet or in the universe/galaxy".<br /> <br /><br />
I think we all need to be patient. <br /><br />We still have a few days til 01.01.13. <br /><br />I trust TS as I wouldn't have known anything about the hoax if it wasn't for his updates on here so let's not all lose faith just yet. <br /><br />Rememeber FroNt did acknowledge TS so for me I still trust him. <br /><br />In the meantime I've been listening to the below song, reminds me of Michael. <br /><br />Far East Movement - For All<br /><br /> /><br />Love is for all, for all, for all, for all <br />I spend a lot of time looking for a better day <br />Changing looking like it’s many years away <br />Slowly, slowly getting closer as my hope takes over for all <br />La-la-la-la <br /><br />I’m pushing to the limit through the pouring rain <br />I see my parents work hard through the tears and pain <br />I guess we all do the same, let your dreams lead the way for all <br />La-la, yeah <br />I wear my heart on the sleeve and I’m not the only one <br />(I’m not the only one) <br />I always get back on my feet and I’m not the only one <br />(I’m not the only one) <br />I learn to cherish every moment now, I’m not the only one <br />(I’m not the only one) <br />As long as we’re together, you’ll never feel alone, at all <br /><br />Chorus: <br />Love is for all <br />Life is for all <br />Dreams are for all <br />Hope is for all <br />Fell the love from everybody in the crowd now <br />This is for y’all, this is for all <br /><br />Love is for all <br />Life is for all <br />Dreams are for all <br />Hope is for all <br />Fell the love from everybody in the crowd now <br />This is for y’all, this is for all <br /><br />Sometimes I sit back, relax and enjoy the feeling <br />If I’m living, oh I’m barely living, oh I’m still breathing, <br />Today is something different, I woke up on the good trip <br />But the next part of my life where I could flip the world I live in <br />And now the sun is shining in my face <br />The doors are all well opened, will never close again <br />I do it for the love and let my dreams lead teh way for all <br />La-da <br /><br />I wear my heart on the sleeve and I’m not the only one <br />(I’m not the only one) <br />I always get back on my feet and I’m not the only one <br />(I’m not the only one) <br />I learn to cherish every moment now, I’m not the only one <br />(I’m not the only one) <br />As long as we’re together, you’ll never feel alone, at all <br /><br />Chorus: <br />Love is for all <br />Life is for all <br />Dreams are for all <br />Hope is for all <br />Fell the love from everybody in the crowd now <br />This is for y’all, this is for all <br /><br />Love is for all <br />Life is for all <br />Dreams are for all <br />Hope is for all <br />Fell the love from everybody in the crowd now <br />This is for y’all, this is for all <br /><br />Dancing till we up to the top, you get up <br />We’re strong enough that nothing will stop, now get up <br />Don’t ever let your energy drop, get up <br />And everybody throw your hands up <br /><br />Dancing till we up to the top, you get up <br />We’re strong enough that nothing will stop, now get up <br />Don’t ever let your energy droṗ, get up <br />And everybody throw your hands up <br /><br />Chorus: <br />Love is for all <br />Life is for all <br />Dreams are for all <br />Hope is for all <br />Fell the love from everybody in the crowd now <br />This is for y’all, this is for all <br /><br />Love is for all <br />Life is for all <br />Dreams are for all <br />Hope is for all <br />Fell the love from everybody in the crowd now <br />This is for y’all, this is for all
<br />Well back did reference something in regards to "72 hours previous the logic of a moment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell".<br /><br />However, I doubt MJ would trample the God show with a Bam on Christmas Day.<br />
<br /><br />Do you mean he would never eclipse Christmas Day for the sake of his hoax and BAM and take away the importance that God has that day?<br />
<br /><br />Yes. It's the official day of celebration. The hoax always takes a break for Christmas. Doesn't mean it will this year, just means there's a good possibility that after 3 years this is a repeating pattern.
<br />Honestly I don’t see this thread as a competition about who Front likes the most. Not at all. TS gave us a deadline and redirected to at least 2 posts mentioning BAM in a clear manner so I guess it’s only natural if some hoaxers are eager to “play the game” and try to find out when it is going to happen. If nothing happens well nothing happens. I believe it’s all in God’s Hands before all. It’s obvious that there is a lot of excitement as more people have been posting, new members included. But I don't see it as a "competition" about who likes who, maybe a competition about who will get the BAM date right. :LolLolLolLol:<br />
<br />I agree with you Sarahli! there is nothing wrong on guesses on Bam, funny pictures, as long as they do not hurt anyone..it is only fulfilling the time we have till Michael comes out..also Front said to have a little fun during all those seriousness! we have lot of seriousness in real everyday life, so it is nice to have a little fun here with friends :icon_razz: <br /><br />I really hope that everyone will have magical and peaceful Christmas with loved ones! <br /><br /> :bearhug:<br /><br />
I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I think it's always good to start the day with a laughter <br /><br />Since TS said that the "End is near"and many people thought that the world is gonna end in 21.12.12 :LolLolLolLol:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />[img]http://[http://www.anyjokes.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/little-symbol.jpg/img]<br /><br />[/img]<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Have a nice day everyone <br /> :bearhug:<br /><br />
Emulik, I guess I’m a little more old-school than you since I’m still into snail-mail, but we do love our pearls don’t we! :icon_lol: And Sim, better watch how much drink--you might fall off your chair and miss the Bam! :errrr:
<br />It was in response to our 2 pics of old ladies, and yours of you drinking while perched tipsy on a bar stool! All in good silly fun. Sorry to confuse you! All meant in love!<br /><br />Also Sim, the Apollo giant and temple reminds me of MJ wanting to build his wedding chapel. Think MJ might have been thinking Apollo also?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Thirdeye, I like your take on Boxing day, “Thinking outside the box!”<br /><br />TuTcurse on Today at 01:19:33 PM<br />
The light of the world? I don't think you should call Michael that. Maybe I'm being a bit over religious but I dont think you should consider another human, who cuts in bleeds in that sense at all.
<br />MJ once wrote in a note, “Have mercy, for I have been bleeding for a long time now.” Also didn't Jesus bleed a whole lot? Just saying.<br />
Remember what back posted years ago. Funny how its come true:<br /><br />"tHE SUN RISES amidst the clouds, breaking the thickest of the wild blue yonder's momentary scab. It's a brighter day once the scab fickles and dissapates to matter. As the earth continues its' AXIS ROTATION, day to night, night to day, the human beings of said planet witness the continuance of the trance we call time. Time is of the essence, so they say. Time is the checkmate of life. Forever spinning in this globe-cast of many different elements, there comes a tIME when time itself takes a backseat to the mOMENT. We, as intelligent beings, decipher and choose when to allow the moment to suspend time. As with the Killuminatti, iN tHEORY, 72 hours previous the logic of a mOment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell. Some things aren't meant for easy translation. But over tIme, it's possible to clearly see the light, if the mOMENT warrants. As the world turns and the clocks spin infinitely, tick tock tick tock, kEEP track of time and please kEEP WATCHIN'<br /><br />BACK 08/25/2006<br />
<br />I agree with curls. I'm not ok with TS_comments handing out false dates either. I find it a bizarre notion that someone would go to these lengths to play around with the minds of a few people on the internet for these many years but I am not naive enough to think it impossible.<br /><br />Perhaps back was always a marketing tool invented by MJ. He gave MJ a "tougher" side to round out all the softness that could be associated with passivity, he drummed up excitement in the fan base for new and upcoming MJ things by eluding to something big coming MJ related, he retained that interest (keep watchin), he also gave MJ a voice during the trials; to speak out against the treatment he was being subjected to, and allowed him to vent without tainting his ever patient and polite public image. He also kept the fan base's spirits up during said trial.<br /><br />I mentioned it once so at risk of being repetitive; back never said much of anything in regards to a Bam. Yes he said the word "bam" but it wasn't in conjunction with a future event so in context it does not apply to a comeback clue. The context around which he used the word "bam" ONE time in his surviving posts has zero to do with the hoax. The greatest clue back gives us is the date of death (lacking a year) combined with his presence on the forum post-6/25/09, but those things do not mean MJ is alive and coming back.<br /><br />The presence of these clues make no sense without a comeback, that's pretty easy to say, but not everything in life "makes sense". People do weird things all the time for no particularly good reason. The biggest, strongest clue is the Liberian Girl pics used at the memorial and burial but there is precious little given recently. I suppose Jermaine constantly saying "it's all going to come out" is a strong clue as well but why hasn't he said this since Murray's trial? For someone who repeated this phrase like he was reading it off a cue card for his life, JJ sure has been silent regarding anything coming out in over a year. And whatever happened to "justice, then truth"?? I haven't seen any truth, has anyone else?<br /><br />Would the Jackson family perpetuate a false hoax to honor MJ's public life as the Man of Mystery? Maybe. Sure. Why not? They owe us nothing. Would MJ perpetuate false hope in a few conspiracy theorists online just for fun even though he had no intention of coming back... ever? MAYBE. He is a prankster. He does love a good story. All for love can = all for fun. Maybe he thinks it's fun? It's probably pretty good people watching.<br />
<br />These are interesting thoughts. I think the public would like MJ a lot more if they saw the "tougher" Back character side of him, since they think he's too kind, polite and weak-minded. But for some reason MJ doesn't want them to see that, only those who already love him. I love the fact that he is so multi-personality, complex--the greatest entertainer! I just know we're going to hear more from the hoax Source in the future, and whatever/whenever Bam is, I'm perfectly fine in the waiting room, to 'Keep watching' to see what he has planned. MJ many times said, he never stops working or creating. TS has always kept his promise, even if sometimes he delayed a little past when he said something would happen. I'm happy to trust TS/Front/MJ.
<br /><br />No, ashphrak is right, that back post was made in 2006.<br /><br />However, @ashphrak, I don't see what has come true out of that post. Care to elabroate?
<br /><br />No, ashphrak is right, that back post was made in 2006.<br /><br />However, @ashphrak, I don't see what has come true out of that post. Care to elabroate?<br />
Yup rise of the sun ;0)<br /><br />72 hours after the 21st dec brings us to Xmas day possible bam. <br /><br />With all the clues pointing to this sun/appollo 1 day of simmering etc.<br /><br />Meanwhile interesting pic by Michael bearden:<br /><br />“@MichaelBearden: Happy Holidays to ALL., Be safe! Enjoy! M~ http://t.co/Wtp85CKJ”
DWD Theory Execution<br /><br />Both Oregon and Washington passed “Physician-Assisted Suicide” before Michael’s ‘death’, the state of Oregon on November 8, 1994; Washington state on November 4, 2008. For both states, the DWD patient must have 6 or less months to live. (http://euthanasia.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000132)<br /><br />Here’s where my theory comes in.<br />Hypothetically speaking, let’s say Michael found a DWD patient who agreed to die in place of him on June 25, 2009. This patient would have had 6 months or so left in his life. Remember this National Enquirer cover dated January 12, 2009: <br /><br /><br /><br /> <br />If you recall, the months leading up to June 25, Michael was seen more in wheelchairs and visited Arnie Klein frequently- perhaps to pretend he was sick. Who knows who truly released the information that Michael had 6 months left to live? It could’ve been the mastermind himself. If Michael did use a DWD patient to hoax his death, that would explain why he would “have” that many months to live, because it was required by law! <br />I think leading up to June 25, the DWD patient underwent plastic surgeries to look more like Michael (explaining Michael’s frequent visits to Arnie Klein), and doctor visits. <br /><br />Fast forward to June 24, 2009. In LaToya’s book Starting Over, she states that “ According to fans, when Michael was on his way to rehearsal on [June 24] the day of his death, as he drove through the gate at Carolwood, he did not roll his window down and talk to them. That was totally out of character for Michael. I’ve never known Michael to behave in that way to a group of fans that had been so devoted to him […] Then, when he arrived at the Staples Center, he didn’t walk over to his fans[.…]. Michael may not have rolled down his windows because the DWD patient, who at this time was supposed to resemble Michael, was inside the car with him. <br /><br />LaToya also says that “[…] on the night of June 24, 2009, the last night before he passed, when he arrived home from rehearsal, the security measures at the house were much different from any other night when Michael returned from rehearsal.” <--To prevent anyone from seeing the patient?<br />“A line of roughly ten men were lined up on both sides of his gate. Normally, he had only the two or three security guards that were with him, and the one that was in the post inside the yard. But this night was different, security was everywhere, and again Michael’s car didn’t stop on the way inside the gate […] [One fan reported:] ‘I stand outside the gate, and Michael has the same routine every night. After he comes home from rehearsal, he goes upstairs, and about twenty minutes later the light in a room goes off. The night that he died, the light stayed on all night. I got worried. The light never went off. I didn’t get it. I didn’t understand what had happened. It was very strange […] Oh, and security was acting strange,’ she said” (326-331).<br /><br />All of the excerpts of Starting Over can be found on http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=19778.0<br /> <br />Once again Michael did not greet the fans. The light may have stayed on the entire night because Michael and Conrad were preparing the assisted suicide. Could also explain why Conrad performed CPR on the bed- he didn’t really want to save the patient, because he was supposed to die. <br />I think that the DWD patient died that day and that the autopsy was performed on that patient, with some of the information added by Michael to make it appear authentic (i.e. the vitiligo). <br /><br /><br />http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2011/11/01/michael-jackson-autopsy-file<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Scars from a surgery: Depending on what the DWD patient’s ailment was, these scars may have been from the surgery. <br /><br />http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/jackson-autopsy_short-copy.pdf<br />“The head is normocephalic and is partly covered by black hair. There is frontal balding and the hair can be described as short and rightly curled.” (12). <-- Maybe the DWD patient had chemotherapy.<br /><br />Well, that's all I have on the DWD theory for now. I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas! <br />
<br />Also Esacanova latest tweet:<br /><br />“@TheOfficialECas: Merry Michael Jackson Christmas”<br />
<br /><br />that is not e-casanova's twitter... this is>>> http://twitter.com/EcasanovaEvans<br /><br />his tweets:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />hello pippi...the DWD theory has already been discussed in the TIAI 11-11-11 thread...u might wanna check it out... <br /><br />
Dear Front I wish a Merry Christmas in company of your beloved ones, have a beautiful Christmas Eve tonight and enjoy the succulent christmas sweets but beware don't have an indigestion :icon_lol:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Merry Christmas to everyone, enjoy tonight!! :icon_bounce:
<br />DWD Theory Execution<br /><br />Both Oregon and Washington passed “Physician-Assisted Suicide” before Michael’s ‘death’, the state of Oregon on November 8, 1994; Washington state on November 4, 2008. For both states, the DWD patient must have 6 or less months to live. (http://euthanasia.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000132)<br /><br />Here’s where my theory comes in.<br />Hypothetically speaking, let’s say Michael found a DWD patient who agreed to die in place of him on June 25, 2009. This patient would have had 6 months or so left in his life. Remember this National Enquirer cover dated January 12, 2009: <br /><br /><br /><br /> <br />If you recall, the months leading up to June 25, Michael was seen more in wheelchairs and visited Arnie Klein frequently- perhaps to pretend he was sick. Who knows who truly released the information that Michael had 6 months left to live? It could’ve been the mastermind himself. If Michael did use a DWD patient to hoax his death, that would explain why he would “have” that many months to live, because it was required by law! <br />I think leading up to June 25, the DWD patient underwent plastic surgeries to look more like Michael (explaining Michael’s frequent visits to Arnie Klein), and doctor visits. <br /><br />Fast forward to June 24, 2009. In LaToya’s book Starting Over, she states that “ According to fans, when Michael was on his way to rehearsal on [June 24] the day of his death, as he drove through the gate at Carolwood, he did not roll his window down and talk to them. That was totally out of character for Michael. I’ve never known Michael to behave in that way to a group of fans that had been so devoted to him […] Then, when he arrived at the Staples Center, he didn’t walk over to his fans[.…]. Michael may not have rolled down his windows because the DWD patient, who at this time was supposed to resemble Michael, was inside the car with him. <br /><br />LaToya also says that “[…] on the night of June 24, 2009, the last night before he passed, when he arrived home from rehearsal, the security measures at the house were much different from any other night when Michael returned from rehearsal.” <--To prevent anyone from seeing the patient?<br />“A line of roughly ten men were lined up on both sides of his gate. Normally, he had only the two or three security guards that were with him, and the one that was in the post inside the yard. But this night was different, security was everywhere, and again Michael’s car didn’t stop on the way inside the gate […] [One fan reported:] ‘I stand outside the gate, and Michael has the same routine every night. After he comes home from rehearsal, he goes upstairs, and about twenty minutes later the light in a room goes off. The night that he died, the light stayed on all night. I got worried. The light never went off. I didn’t get it. I didn’t understand what had happened. It was very strange […] Oh, and security was acting strange,’ she said” (326-331).<br /><br />All of the excerpts of Starting Over can be found on http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=19778.0<br /> <br />Once again Michael did not greet the fans. The light may have stayed on the entire night because Michael and Conrad were preparing the assisted suicide. Could also explain why Conrad performed CPR on the bed- he didn’t really want to save the patient, because he was supposed to die. <br />I think that the DWD patient died that day and that the autopsy was performed on that patient, with some of the information added by Michael to make it appear authentic (i.e. the vitiligo). <br /><br /><br />http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2011/11/01/michael-jackson-autopsy-file<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Scars from a surgery: Depending on what the DWD patient’s ailment was, these scars may have been from the surgery. <br /><br />http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/jackson-autopsy_short-copy.pdf<br />“The head is normocephalic and is partly covered by black hair. There is frontal balding and the hair can be described as short and rightly curled.” (12). <-- Maybe the DWD patient had chemotherapy.<br /><br />Well, that's all I have on the DWD theory for now. I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas! <br />
<br /><br />Good job pippi thanks for sharing it makess sense to me what you have explained above.
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